<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div style>One thing to keep in mind that OI has (or at least, had) the largest install base of any OpenSolaris derived distro, thanks to the fact it is "upgrade compatible" with OpenSolaris. If you don't maintain that, then there is no point in continuing with OI - you may as well start with OmniOS.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>My personal view was that I wanted OI to be to illumos what Debian was to Linux - a community maintained general purpose operating system.<br></div><div style><br></div><div style>If we had managed to kick OI into shape with regular releases and up to date software, it might have had a bright future. It certainly had plenty of users.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Alasdair</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:05 PM, ken mays <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maybird1776@yahoo.com" target="_blank">maybird1776@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif"><div>Hello,</div><div><br>
</div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial">1. Provide an updated kernel userland (i.e. Illumos-gate, rev: 19e11862653b or higher). This allows people that use OI for server-based projects to stay in sync with Illumos development on <span style="background-color:transparent">a much wider scale. </span></div>
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2. Optionally, implement JDS updates already maintained by Milan from <a href="http://pkg.opensolaris.cz/osol/en/index.shtml" style="font-family:'Courier New',courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;font-size:10pt" target="_blank">http://pkg.opensolaris.cz/osol/en/index.shtml</a><span style="background-color:transparent">.</span></div>
<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial"><br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial"><span style="background-color:transparent">That is it. This also keeps most things consistent to other project work dealing with GNU/userland/spec-files-extra testing with <= oi_151a7.</span><br>
</div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial"><br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial">You can do this with very minimal manpower and not need to rebuild components / entire consolidations as much (aka 'project overkill'). You can also</div>
<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial">just dump the updated packages in a IPS repo for testing and review.</div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial">
<br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial">You don't necessarily have to 'make world' right off the cuff. Start small, then think big.</div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial">
<br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial">Fact: Entire distribution projects like Tribblix, Milax/OpenSXCE, EON, and DilOS are maintained by 1-2 people.</div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial">
<br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial"><br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial"><span style="background-color:transparent">Hope that helped,</span><br>
</div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial"><br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial">Ken Mays</div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial">
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<font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Andrzej Szeszo <<a href="mailto:aszeszo@gmail.com" target="_blank">aszeszo@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> OpenIndiana Developer mailing list <<a href="mailto:oi-dev@openindiana.org" target="_blank">oi-dev@openindiana.org</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, May 9, 2013 4:01 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [oi-dev] OI project reboot required<br> </font> </div> <div><div><div class="h5">
<br><div><div dir="ltr">Hi All<div><br></div><div>(Instead of replying to a message in one of the
other threads I thought I will create a new one.)</div><div><br></div><div><div>Just wanted to say that I don't see a future for the project in its current form. There is simply too many packages and too much baggage for a handful of people to look after.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I think the project needs a new vision and a reboot. If you have any ideas for the project and can write scripts/makefiles to generate a distro/live CDs/etc. - speak up! You don't have to be a leader if you don't want to :)</div>
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