<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">/hipster should be the -current like FreeBSD<br>/dev should be -stable like FreeBSD<br>/release or /stable should be -RELEASE like FreeBSD<br><br>/hipster can keep having its breakage, that is fine. But what I'd see is /dev get illumos-gate updates and tested and when no problems are found and it is stable, then get promoted to /release, and keep this cycle.<br><br>Thus, /dev and /release will be sunstudio, but I don't know how one can get /hipster promoted to /dev because of gcc.<br><br>I guess it could be that /hipster always stays out there as a -current while /dev and /release stay with sunstudio because right now /dev is most rock-solid and that should not be taken away. While /hipster has newer packages available, if someone is on /dev or /release there are other options rather than trying to get what is in
/hipster. opencsw.org has many current packages available, so anyone using /dev and /release can get them from opencsw.org.<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> ken mays <maybird1776@yahoo.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> OpenIndiana Developer mailing list <oi-dev@openindiana.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 11, 2013 4:30 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [oi-dev] Release engineering // planing<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv7795512700"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Courier New,
courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div>Agreed.</div><div><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">I'd suggest the same for the '07/2013 RELEASE' to at least update /dev repo</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">to the current "approved" /hipster Illumos-gate snapshot before pushing to /release.</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">You could respin the oi_151a7 ISO with
that recent Illumos_gate snapshot so people can still test the Illumos_gate snapshot for current issues. (oi_151a7.1)<br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">The /hipster oi-userland changes should get pushed to /dev from that point with the same snapshot of Illumos_gate from /release. You then update the Illumos builds from that point of reference.</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;
font-style:normal;"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">Example:</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">/release= /dev<br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">Illumos_gate_47f42be153c1 +</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"> oi_151a7 (old /dev
repo)<br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">new /dev = /hipster<br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">Illumos_gate_47f42be153c1 + <br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">OI-JDS_2b18d0590968 +<br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;
font-style:normal;">oi-userland (s12_26)<br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">(whatever else)<br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">~ Ken Mays<br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br></div> <div style="font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;">
<div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Piotr Jasiukajtis <estibi@me.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> OpenIndiana Developer mailing list <oi-dev@openindiana.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 11, 2013 2:33 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [oi-dev] Release engineering // planing<br> </font> </div> <div class="yiv7795512700y_msg_container"><br>I think an updated illumos-gate packages should go into oi_151a7 first, because of NFS related BUG fix #2986. <br><br>On Jul 11, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:udo.grabowski@kit.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:udo.grabowski@kit.edu">udo.grabowski@kit.edu</a>> wrote:<br><br>> On 11/07/2013 18:53, Alasdair Lumsden wrote:<br>>> ....<br>>> I do think that /dev should get
moved to /release, and /hipster should go
to<br>>> /dev. Not many know about hipster beyond the oi-dev list. It would show people<br>>> in the outside world that progress is being made on OI.A<br>> > ...<br>> <br>> But at that point, there should be provided a way to switch<br>> current people on /dev to /release, surely most do not want<br>> to be exposed to hipster...<br>> And that seems not to be trivial, probably it needs a bump<br>> to a new release number.<br>> Personally I think this switch should be done now on the<br>> base of a7 (sunstudio compiled, with maybe a few couple of<br>> known stable fixes), as hipster is currently going sidewards<br>> with all the changes to gcc, it will probably not stabilize<br>> within the next two months, and a7 is mostly rock stable<br>> (with a few user visible problems due to the png12 <--> png14<br>> hassles).<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>>
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