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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">samba needs to be updated from 3.5.8
      before it can be considered good enough for /release.<br>
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      On Friday, July 12, 2013 09:47 PM, ken mays wrote:<br>
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              <p dir="ltr">Good points. So, a major question: Is /dev
                good enough for /release promotion?</p>
              <p dir="ltr">Any known or reported issues to resolve
                beforehand?</p>
              <p dir="ltr">~ Ken Mays</p>
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              <hr size="1"> <b> <span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span>
              </b> G B <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:g_patrickb@yahoo.com"><g_patrickb@yahoo.com></a>; <br>
              <b> <span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span> </b>
              OpenIndiana Developer mailing list
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:oi-dev@openindiana.org"><oi-dev@openindiana.org></a>; <br>
              <b> <span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span> </b>
              Re: [oi-dev] Release engineering // planing <br>
              <b> <span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span> </b>
              Fri, Jul 12, 2013 11:49:21 AM <br>
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                      style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times
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                      should be the -current like FreeBSD<br>
                      /dev should be -stable like FreeBSD<br>
                      /release or /stable should be -RELEASE like
                      FreeBSD<br>
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                      /hipster can keep having its breakage, that is
                      fine.  But what I'd see is /dev get illumos-gate
                      updates and tested and when no problems are found
                      and it is stable, then get promoted to /release,
                      and keep this cycle.<br>
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                      Thus, /dev and /release will be sunstudio, but I
                      don't know how one can get /hipster promoted to
                      /dev because of gcc.<br>
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                      I guess it could be that /hipster always stays out
                      there as a -current while /dev and /release stay
                      with sunstudio because right now /dev is most
                      rock-solid and that should not be taken away. 
                      While /hipster has newer packages available, if
                      someone is on /dev or /release there are other
                      options rather than trying to get what is in
                      /hipster.  opencsw.org has many current packages
                      available, so anyone using /dev and /release can
                      get them from opencsw.org.<br>
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                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b>
                              ken mays <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:maybird1776@yahoo.com"><maybird1776@yahoo.com></a><br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b>
                              OpenIndiana Developer mailing list
                              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:oi-dev@openindiana.org"><oi-dev@openindiana.org></a> <br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                              Thursday, July 11, 2013 4:30 PM<br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                              Re: [oi-dev] Release engineering //
                              planing<br>
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                                  <div>Agreed.</div>
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                                    sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">I'd
                                    suggest the same for the '07/2013
                                    RELEASE' to at least update /dev
                                    repo</div>
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                                    sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">to
                                    the current "approved" /hipster
                                    Illumos-gate snapshot before pushing
                                    to /release.</div>
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                                    sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">You
                                    could respin the oi_151a7 ISO with
                                    that recent Illumos_gate snapshot so
                                    people can still test the
                                    Illumos_gate snapshot for current
                                    issues. (oi_151a7.1)<br>
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                                    sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">The
                                    /hipster oi-userland changes should
                                    get pushed to /dev from that point
                                    with the same snapshot of
                                    Illumos_gate from /release. You then
                                    update the Illumos builds from that
                                    point of reference.</div>
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                                    sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">Example:</div>
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                                    /dev<br>
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                                    oi_151a7 (old /dev repo)<br>
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                                    /dev = /hipster<br>
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                                    (s12_26)<br>
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                                    Ken Mays<br>
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                                          Piotr Jasiukajtis
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                                          OpenIndiana Developer mailing
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                                          <b><span
                                              style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                                          Thursday, July 11, 2013 2:33
                                          PM<br>
                                          <b><span
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                                          Re: [oi-dev] Release
                                          engineering // planing<br>
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                                        I think an updated illumos-gate
                                        packages should go into oi_151a7
                                        first, because of NFS related
                                        BUG fix #2986. <br>
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                                        On Jul 11, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Udo
                                        Grabowski (IMK) <<a
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                                        > On 11/07/2013 18:53,
                                        Alasdair Lumsden wrote:<br>
                                        >> ....<br>
                                        >> I do think that /dev
                                        should get moved to /release,
                                        and /hipster should go to<br>
                                        >> /dev. Not many know
                                        about hipster beyond the oi-dev
                                        list. It would show people<br>
                                        >> in the outside world
                                        that progress is being made on
                                        OI.A<br>
                                        > > ...<br>
                                        > <br>
                                        > But at that point, there
                                        should be provided a way to
                                        switch<br>
                                        > current people on /dev to
                                        /release, surely most do not
                                        want<br>
                                        > to be exposed to hipster...<br>
                                        > And that seems not to be
                                        trivial, probably it needs a
                                        bump<br>
                                        > to a new release number.<br>
                                        > Personally I think this
                                        switch should be done now on the<br>
                                        > base of a7 (sunstudio
                                        compiled, with maybe a few
                                        couple of<br>
                                        > known stable fixes), as
                                        hipster is currently going
                                        sidewards<br>
                                        > with all the changes to
                                        gcc, it will probably not
                                        stabilize<br>
                                        > within the next two months,
                                        and a7 is mostly rock stable<br>
                                        > (with a few user visible
                                        problems due to the png12
                                        <--> png14<br>
                                        > hassles).<br>
                                        > <br>
                                        > <br>
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