<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Hi Udo,<br><br>Jon Tibble takes care of the release.<br><br>The oi-userland is nearing update completion to the s12-23 upstream specs. I've mapped out the s12-26 update specs on the Wiki.<br><br>Give it some time... a few important bugs need ironing out as well.<br><br>~ Ken<br><br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Udo Grabowski (IMK) <udo.grabowski@kit.edu><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> OpenIndiana Developer mailing list <oi-dev@openindiana.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 15, 2013 12:29 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [oi-dev] Release engineering // planing<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br>On 15/07/2013 16:14, Andrzej Szeszo wrote:<br>> Hi All<br>><br>> At least for now, /hipster contribution process should stay as it is:<br>> pull requests/direct commits to the github repo. The team is too small<br>> to consider any other options at the moment in my opinion.<br>><br>> I reckon /dev can stay as it is now as well. Jon Tibble is working on<br>> getting the repo updated. When he's done, the update should not break<br>> thousands of existing OI installations. There is a risk of making many<br>> users unhappy if we were to use /hipster repo to replace /dev.<br>><br>> People who are interested in stable release are generally using OI on<br>> the servers. I think future formal hipster-based OI
releases could<br>> have packages split into two sets. The "core" one and the "all the<br>> rest" one. Let's learn from the mistakes made in the past and<br>> successes of the other distros and make supported "core" package set<br>> small (additional packages supported on best effort basis).<br>><br>> Also, it would make a lot of sense to have per-release repositories,<br>> like pkg.openindiana.org/<something>/<"core"> and<br>> pkg.openindiana.org/<something>/<"all the rest">. "something" could be<br>> release codename, date tag, some version number, etc. It would make it<br>> easier to manage things that way. Repos would update quicker, mirrors<br>> would be easier to create and be smaller. It would prevent users from<br>> accidentally replacing all of their system files each time new release<br>> is made (in case of publishing each release to /stable, we have BEs,<br>> but still...). It
would be easier to get rid of old unsupported<br>> releases going forward. Also, pkg5 solver would have less metadata to<br>> deal with and would work faster!<br><br>This is totally confusing. Is there a release, and when and where<br>will it happen ? Sounds like hipster is sometimes doing a release,<br>but dev/ (aka Ken) does this also. Or is hipster a ever changing<br>sandbox without release ? For what ? Sounds like alll responsibility<br>for making something stable should be laid on Ken's shoulders<br>picking the right pieces from hipster to put it into /dev to ever<br>get someting useful from hipster.<br><br>And no, there are indeed people outside who regularily use more<br>than "core" (whatever that means, there are more than enough "cores"<br>outside, we don't need another)...<br>-- <br>Dr.Udo Grabowski Inst.f.Meteorology a.Climate Research IMK-ASF-SAT<br>www.imk-asf.kit.edu/english/sat.php<br>KIT - Karlsruhe Institute of
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