<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span><span title="aszeszo@gmail.com" class="from lozengfy" data-action="contact-card-menu" data-address="aszeszo@gmail.com" data-name="Andrzej Szeszo">Andrzej </span>,</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Some small fixes are [based on 10/23/2013 ISOs]:</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>1. Use Nvidia 304.88/304.108 drivers on hipster (<a href="ftp://download.nvidia.com/solaris/304.108/NVIDIA-Solaris-x86-304.108.run">ftp://download.nvidia.com/solaris/304.108/NVIDIA-Solaris-x86-304.108.run</a>)</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>2. Fix distro-constructor to pick the thunderbird 10.0.12 package for installation (it picks thunderbird 3.1.4 package). See: /hipster - <a title="Package Information Summary"
href="http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/info/0/mail%2Fthunderbird%400.5.11%2C5.11-0.151.1.8%3A20130305T140749Z"><font color="#0066cc">mail/thunderbird@0.5.11,5.11-0.151.1.8:20130305T140749Z</font></a> </span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Everything else seems to work beside the known issues reported beforehand. </span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>~ Ken Mays</span></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Thursday, October 24, 2013 7:51 AM, WarGrey Gyoudmon Ju <juzhenliang@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv9197135972"><div><div
dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Thank you Jim.<br clear="none"></div>Very useful HOWTOs.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>My 2010-mid MBP should be a good choice.<br clear="none"></div>Unluckily, the undetectable BlSOD troubles me. Apple's fault.<br clear="none">I have to work in a virtual machine since only Windows is able to recover from black screen. <br clear="none">
<div><div><div><div><div><br clear="none"><div class="yiv9197135972gmail_extra"><div class="yiv9197135972yqt3615187618" id="yiv9197135972yqtfd50125"><div class="yiv9197135972gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Jim Klimov <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jimklimov@cos.ru" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jimklimov@cos.ru">jimklimov@cos.ru</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote class="yiv9197135972gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div class="yiv9197135972im">On 2013-10-24 10:58, WarGrey Gyoudmon Ju wrote:<br clear="none">
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I want to buy a new laptop for Openindiana.<br clear="none">
What's the official suggestions?<br clear="none">
Are those in the list with blank 'notes' okay?<br clear="none">
<a href="http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Laptops+and+Netbooks" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://wiki.openindiana.org/<u></u>oi/Laptops+and+Netbooks</a><br clear="none">
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From my general experience (though mostly "burnt fingers") and vague<br clear="none">
knowledge from list-reading, I think the currently suggested rigs<br clear="none">
should involve:<br clear="none">
1) Ability to test in-shop or return due to incompatibility with your<br clear="none">
software. Many sales points don't allow that - are not required to,<br clear="none">
but some do. Risk of incompatibility is high, so you might want to<br clear="none">
take precautions or even overpay a bit for that (i.e. two weeks for<br clear="none">
the returns no-questions-asked).<br clear="none">
2) KVM virtualization - IIRC it is officially done for Intel CPUs with<br clear="none">
VT-D, and an experimental branch is worked on for equivalent AMDs.<br clear="none">
So if interested in KVM, you'd prefer intel now :) VirtualBox should<br clear="none">
be fine on both (my AMD E2 works ok).<br clear="none">
3) WiFi - some NICs are supported better than others (i.e. have native<br clear="none">
illumos drivers, have sleep/wakeup for hibernation, support WEP/WPA),<br clear="none">
so you might lean towards Intel ones which are mostly supported well,<br clear="none">
though there are half a dozen drivers in the tree for various models.<br clear="none">
4) Somewhat likewise for Ethernet NICs, though the Free NIC Drivers<br clear="none">
project can help here: <a href="http://homepage2.nifty.com/mrym3/taiyodo/eng/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://homepage2.nifty.com/<u></u>mrym3/taiyodo/eng/</a><br clear="none">
5) Don't expect USB3 out of the box right now, might not work even to<br clear="none">
power up a mouse or cell phone. Maybe some drivers will be made and<br clear="none">
published soon, but for now - make sure at least some USB2 ports are<br clear="none">
available on the laptop.<br clear="none">
6) Audio may work, may be quiet, and there may be a mixup between for<br clear="none">
example a MoBo audio chip and a videocard's HDMI audio support.<br clear="none">
In my case both were driven by "audiohd" driver, and I needed to<br clear="none">
rename some device files in order to have the physical audio be<br clear="none">
the default output.<br clear="none">
7) Video support - AFAIK certain NVidia chips have binary drivers for<br clear="none">
Solaris which work in illumos. Maybe also Intel. My AMD E2 Radeon<br clear="none">
(built-in to the CPU, er, "APU") works only as a VESA adapter and<br clear="none">
does not support hibernation in OI, for example.<br clear="none">
8) CDROM is not strictly required, but in my case lack of one caused<br clear="none">
me to install the system using the HDD in legacy IDE mode.<br clear="none">
When I boot off an USB LiveMedia, my "SCSI" (SATA/USB) devices have<br clear="none">
different naming/ordering than when I boot off the SATA-mode HDD,<br clear="none">
so my SATA rpool can not be imported.<br clear="none">
9) Some advanced laptops include an ability to drive 2 or 3 storage<br clear="none">
devices, such as 2 HDDs and an mSATA SSD. For performance work and<br clear="none">
safe storage, you might want that (i.e. OS and cache on SSD, and<br clear="none">
mirrored HDDs for bulk data). RAM depends on you usage, 8Gb suffices<br clear="none">
for me including 1-2 VMs for some tests; though perhaps more complex<br clear="none">
"labs" of VMs and zones might need more. Some laptops allow 32Gb...<br clear="none">
10) And as usual with the laptops, make sure the KBD and screen are<br clear="none">
convenient for you. You don't want to save money on health :)<br clear="none">
Probably you'd want a 15"+ laptop with proper full-sized keyboard<br clear="none">
and preferably good resolution (at least 1920*1080).<br clear="none">
In particular, my Lenovo TP E335 lacks the "numeric keyboard" and<br clear="none">
its associated arrow keys completely, which is sometimes important,<br clear="none">
as well as any kbd LEDs and some advanced keys like Pause/Break -<br clear="none">
this is not always convenient for coding/debugging ;)<br clear="none">
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HTH,<br clear="none">
//Jim Klimov<div class="yiv9197135972HOEnZb"><div class="yiv9197135972h5"><br clear="none">
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