<div dir="ltr"><div>Belenix development is underway - it's just not on public servers yet.<br><br></div>-- Ram<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:02 AM, David H <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davidhalko@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidhalko@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Seth,<br>
<br>
I think that Joerg is quite right, we need to place a bit of<br>
organization around it and the work must be done by an external<br>
coordinator, not a developer tied to a single distribution. Some key<br>
contributing distributions may include:<br>
- Belenix, mentioned on the list that they were resuming development<br>
cycles in 2013. I have not seen much activity since May 2013.<br>
Sometimes, affiliated members appear on the Illumos/OpenIndiana lists.<br>
- Tribblix has been active on the list, re-adding some features such<br>
as Sparse Zones. (We use this feature aggressively under Solaris 10<br>
and have been waiting for it to re-appear under OpenSolaris.)<br>
- DilOS has been active on the list, refreshing early features from<br>
OpenSolaris such as Xen. It appears they were open to host OpenSXCE.<br>
- OpenSXCE had done some great work, refreshing capabilities from<br>
OpenSolaris, such as SPARC. (Looks pretty good, we have been testing.)<br>
<br>
I made some effort to pull together distros for better cooperation.<br>
Some of my thoughts were included in the following presentation.<br>
<a href="http://svr4.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://svr4.blogspot.com/</a><br>
<br>
There are hidden pages behind this lonely looking svr4 blog. It was<br>
prepped for a release, but enough progress to make Illumos more ISV,<br>
Carrier, and Managed Service Provider friendly did not happen. The<br>
window of opportunity for some members in the community to earn a<br>
living on 3 new verticals and diversify from cloud and storage silo<br>
had closed... and so did the time I had to invest in the community.<br>
<br>
I am interested in collaboration, but my time is more limited, until<br>
we can make some serious progress in diversifying, so this product can<br>
become more appealing to new market verticals. With 3 new market<br>
verticals, each earning about $333K/year, new community members could<br>
probably become compensated contributors, without internally competing<br>
against other existing founding contributors, and the overall pie<br>
could grow.<br>
<br>
There are probably a 4th and 5th market vertical that can be<br>
approached, with Oracle abandoning other markets, recently. This could<br>
bring the cooperative effort down to multiple revenue streams of<br>
$250K/year or even $200K/year to be distributed among community<br>
members.<br>
<br>
If the various non-commercial distro's could come together with a<br>
little organization and a single (functioning) network packaging<br>
forum, this could be beneficial for a bunch of community members...<br>
not to mention, that I might not have to migrate a bunch of my systems<br>
to Linux or Windows, but that number shrinks daily. :-(<br>
<br>
Thanks, David Halko<br>
<a href="http://netmgt.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://netmgt.blogspot.com/</a><br>
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On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Apostolos Syropoulos<br>
<<a href="mailto:asyropoulos@yahoo.com">asyropoulos@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I am with you when you say that people should collaborate. Although,<br>
><br>
><br>
>><br>
>>- IPS must not be the only packaging<br>
>><br>
><br>
> is quite reasonable. I don't undestand why<br>
><br>
><br>
>>- /usr/gnu must not be the default first entry in PATH<br>
>><br>
>>- /sbin/sh may be a link to the Bourne Shell<br>
>><br>
><br>
> Bash is great and fortunately or unfortunately most applications<br>
> expect bash and not Bourne shell. Also, I have compiled a number of<br>
><br>
> important tools and all expect the GNU ls, GNU ld, etc. For starters<br>
> OpenOffice/LibreOffice expect GNU tools. In addition, since it is<br>
><br>
> not trivial to maintain 'ld' and 'as' why not adopting the GNU<br>
> equivalents and forget about the Solaris things. And of course,<br>
> sooner or later people should choose to use either GCC or LLVM<br>
><br>
> as the official compiler. Sun Studio is closed source and not<br>
><br>
> actively maintained.<br>
><br>
> A.S.<br>
><br>
><br>
> ----------------------<br>
> Apostolos Syropoulos<br>
> Xanthi, Greece<br>
><br>
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