<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Hello,</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Note: </span><span>OI is nothing more than a 'server OS' distribution with additional software. Leave it at that.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>OI surely can mentor students as there are 'students' that already work on that project.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>As for illumos, I note that there 'should be' a general focus on projects that a group of students can</span></div><div><span> work on for the summer or accomplish </span><span>in the 3-month span.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Porting device drivers is such a task. Many 'experts' here on kernel and device driver
programming.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>I'd like to see students work on USB 3.1/Thunderbolt 2 drivers for illumos. A few storage partners</span></div><div><span>use illumos and supporting device drivers related to storage makes sense - not so much graphic drivers.</span><span> </span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>That brings into focus the reality of how illumos is being used on the 'bigger scale' of things. The</span></div><div><span>illumos kernel developers that can mentor students based on projects they may work on internally</span></div><div><span>and can hopefully lead that work into future jobs for the student or a great job reference.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>As for OI GSoC, a project like 'Implement the 2013Q3 Intel Graphics Stack' is a great project which involves</span></div><div><span>upstream's Xnv
implementation.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Note: I'd donate high-end graphic cards/workstations to students accomplishing those goals.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Sincerely,</span></div><div><span>Ken Mays</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span></span> </div><div><span> </span></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Friday, February 14, 2014 2:53 PM, Garrett D'Amore <garrett@damore.org> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv3428884473"><style>#yiv3428884473 body{font-family:Helvetica, Arial;font-size:13px;}</style><div><div
id="yiv3428884473bloop_customfont" style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px;">Lets all agree that we don’t want any simple efforts to just package software as part of GSoC, whether for any distribution.</div><div id="yiv3428884473bloop_customfont" style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px;"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv3428884473bloop_customfont" style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px;">Let’s also agree that if some very compelling project (forward and innovative thinking, not just making illumos try to compete with Linux on Linux’s terms) for Desktop technology comes up, we can evaluate such a project on its merits, and consider it as a candidate for GSoC slots.</div><div id="yiv3428884473bloop_customfont" style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px;"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv3428884473bloop_customfont" style="margin: 0px;
font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px;">Let’s also agree that opinions of folks not actively volunteering to mentor really don’t count for much here. Its the time on the part of the mentors and admin, and Google’s money at stake. Unless a project poses a risk to the “reputation” for illumos, it shouldn’t matter to other parties.</div><div id="yiv3428884473bloop_customfont" style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px;"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv3428884473bloop_customfont" style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px;">Thanks.</div><div id="yiv3428884473bloop_customfont" style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3428884473bloop_sign" id="yiv3428884473bloop_sign_1392407157645103104"><div style="font-family: helvetica, arial; font-size: 13px;">-- <br clear="none">Garrett D'Amore<br clear="none">Sent
with Airmail</div></div><br clear="none"><div style="color: rgb(160, 160, 168);">On February 14, 2014 at 9:19:35 AM, Keith Wesolowski (<a href="mailto:keith.wesolowski@joyent.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto://keith.wesolowski@joyent.com">keith.wesolowski@joyent.com</a>) wrote:</div><blockquote class="yiv3428884473clean_bq" type="cite"><span></span><div><div>On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 04:20:43PM +0000, Alasdair Lumsden wrote:
<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> However there are plenty of people who do want to run it on the desktop, and who are you to tell them they should not do this?
<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I'm not telling people what to work on, since they're not employed by
<br clear="none">me. I'm trying to make sure that the illumos community represents
<br clear="none">itself favourably and accurately to the wider world, especially when
<br clear="none">trying to recruit young engineers to work on our operating system.
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