<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13.33px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>Milan was one of the great ones... his contributions will be missed by all.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13.33px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13.33px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>There actually was talks of making an oi_151a9 ISO... but I think there
was a need to pull in the updated JDS fixes from Milan....</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13.33px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13.33px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>~K</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13.33px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family:
HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Monday, August 11, 2014 3:16 PM, Andrew M. Hettinger <AHettinger@Prominic.NET> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv6628497738"><div>
<div class="yiv6628497738yqt2281563806" id="yiv6628497738yqtfd26258"><div><tt><font size="2">Milan Jurik <milan.jurik@xylab.cz> wrote on 08/11/2014 01:22:07 PM:<br clear="none">
> Hi,<br clear="none">
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> based on the current situation with OI - lack of old OI non-hipster<br clear="none">
> branch - and because of bad situation (according my view) of Illumos -<br clear="none">
> like stupid ideas to include large chunks of 3rd party code to ON gate<br clear="none">
> which makes it unmaintainable (why did Sun and Oracle invest so much to<br clear="none">
> remove OpenSSL, SunSSH and ksh from ON gate? See how bad is ksh in<br clear="none">
> Illumos and how old is Illumos SSH) I have to finalize my decision about<br clear="none">
> my participation. Illumos and its distros are not for me anymore.<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> opensolaris.cz will be up for some time but no more updates to JDS and<br clear="none">
> SFE. Do not hestitate to contact me in private if you think I still know<br clear="none">
> something but I will not spend more time on the lists.<br clear="none">
> If anybody is interested in some older bits then:<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> <a href="http://www.opensolaris.cz/builds/illumos-wpa-enterprise/webrev/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://www.opensolaris.cz/builds/illumos-wpa-enterprise/webrev/</a><br clear="none">
> <a href="http://www.opensolaris.cz/builds/tnf/webrev/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://www.opensolaris.cz/builds/tnf/webrev/</a><br clear="none">
> <a href="http://www.opensolaris.cz/builds/ext2-merge/webrev/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://www.opensolaris.cz/builds/ext2-merge/webrev/</a><br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> Time to go<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> Milan <br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
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<tt><font size="2">I have to admit, parts of this are a bit confusing to me. While there are some things coming into illumos, there is more going out. It's looking vary much like OpenSSL is going to be gone (from what I can tell, it's just a matter of making sure nothing depends on it, which is being worked on now), WU-ftpd is looking like it's going to be removed, SUN DHCPd is looking to be going too. Cardbus was just dropped, which is part of removing legacy PM.</font></tt><br clear="none">
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<tt><font size="2">I definitely understand the lack of stable OI releases (or any apparent desire to make a stable release from hipster) being frustrating.</font></tt><br clear="none">
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<tt><font size="2">At any rate, best of luck. You'll be missed.</font></tt><br clear="none">
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<font face="sans-serif" size="2">Andrew Hettinger<br clear="none">
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