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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/25/17 06:25 PM, Aurélien Larcher
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Most discussions are outdated, either irrelevant or
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<div>If nobody cares to reuse them then they are de facto
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I just said I care to reuse them and history of people's activity is
not the code to be depricated.<br>
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<div>A newcomer may not be able to distinguish what is
outdated and what is not: keeping information that is
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That is not the reason to delete history and as said I woudl like to
save them.<br>
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Keeping people's contributions is more then important to show that
distribution is alive for a longer time.<br>
Only thing dangerous is not using a head to think and people are
more then capable to distingush between comments and articles
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Discussions happen on IRC or the ML, no need for
duplicates.<br>
We could argue about the lack of forums but in any
case the Wiki is not one.<br>
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Deleting them just like that without saving and a plan to
incorporate them in other ways would be a blow to their
freedom to post them in a first place.<br>
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<div>If nobody stepped up, in the past three years that we
have been talking about it, to process them then it means
that nobody cared enough to devise such plan.<br>
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You are wrong and you can't judge just like that,<br>
I just said I have a plan to reuse them and not let them be deleted.
that sounds like stepping up and caring already.<br>
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If you choose to just ignore what I said, whatever, just point is
don't destroy people's comments. Just not yet.<br>
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I have an idea of integrating them (and on-site comments)
into newly made mailing list integration with forum-like
representation of it. So I would need them all.<br>
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<div>Then let us back them up. <br>
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Please do not destroy comments for now. <br>
You expressed idea for deleting them, I thank you for your deleting
ide but let them be here for now to be able to manage them more
easily in the process I described.<br>
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Bare in mind that any way people contact and are active,
is a good way and shutting down means of communication is
not positive by any means.<br>
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<div>Better do one thing right than several wrong. <br>
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Deleting content is always wrong.<br>
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Besides, if you take a look at public forums, they also
include all previous old messages, and no one asks just
like that, to remove them and why should?<br>
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<div>Because a wiki is not a forum and enabling this feature
was a mistake in the first place. <br>
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I agree, yet same as comments on site that is the path people take
to leave some trace of their interest and existance.<br>
Tens of times, comments were going to the right direction and ended
up changing wiki article in a positive manner.<br>
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So not only they represent traces of time of people's interest and
willingnes of contribution,<br>
we need to have a valid replacements, links, and alternate system
for leaving comments and to think about that.<br>
Deleting, removing and revoking functionality is just too much
aggresive at the moment,<br>
taking into account I politely asking you not to.<br>
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OI also had much more mailing lists in the past but
someone unonimously shut them down, like:<br>
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<div>They are useless when the number of mailing-lists
exceeds the number of users. <br>
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That is your idea, they are not useless at all.<br>
They are there to provide organizing infrastructure and having
infrastructure is prerequisite of organizing, like you have a web
site first and have a content on it afterwards. <br>
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Power to destroy is ,someone say, power over something,
but power of reusing and creation is much bigger power, so
no to 'just deleting' people's comments at the present
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<div>I agree with this but if nobody reuses them and the
situation leads to inconsistency I'd rather get
consistency over quantity.<br>
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Ok, as said, not to be removed at present time nor commenting
disabled,<br>
because there could be people still wanting to comment and discuss,<br>
there comes the time to reuse them and integrate discussions into
new platform,<br>
since we still not have new platform with mailing list
integrations,.<br>
removing peope's ability to comment and comments itself foes against
freedom of expression, history of communication and ability to
comment.<br>
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