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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>That’s only true if you’re running on a hypervisor that uses suspend / resume for live migration. I’m not sure how widespread running illumos on VMware is – the absence of suspend/resume support means that nobody is benefiting from this particular capability today (at least with illumos).</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:davidhalko@gmail.com">DavidHalko</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, June 24, 2019 5:18 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:developer@lists.illumos.org">illumos-developer</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:randyf@sibernet.com">randyf@sibernet.com</a>; <a href="mailto:oi-dev@openindiana.org">oi-dev@openindiana.org</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [developer] suspend/resume in Illumos</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Suspend and Resume is critical for live migration in a data center with external storage to reduce schedules downtime incurred with firmware updates to maintain a secure platform.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks, David Halko</p><p class=MsoNormal>http://netmgt.blogspot.com/</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 4:01 AM, Jim Klimov <jimklimov@cos.ru> wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>> On June 11, 2019 9:29:23 PM UTC, randyf@sibernet.com wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019, Toomas Soome via illumos-developer wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> I’d say, anything to encourage people to try, use and join to develop</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> [illumos] is very welcome. Better laptop support will definitely be</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> bonus.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Betting better graphics support would be higher on the list (yea, the </p><p class=MsoNormal>>> other 'dropped' project).</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Cheers!</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ---- Randy</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> Sent from my iPhone</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> On 11 Jun 2019, at 22:58, Garrett D'Amore <garrett@damore.org> wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> My gut instinct is that this isn’t that interesting – most everyone</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> is running illumos in either VMs, or in datacenter</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> applications where suspend/resume has little if any applicability.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> While the work itself is probably interesting, and it may enable new</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> applications for illumos, the concern I’d have would be</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> detraction from other more pressing work, without any clear use cases</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> for it.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> That said, if someone (you?) wanted to spend cycles on this for</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> personal satisfaction, I hardly see any reason to discourage it,</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> and I’m fairly certain if the risks of the new code being introduced</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> are small (or well managed by sufficient testing for</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> example), I can’t see any other reason we would reject a suitably</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> formed RTI.</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> From: randyf@sibernet.com</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 11:10 AM</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> To: oi-dev@openindiana.org; developer@lists.illumos.org</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> Subject: [developer] suspend/resume in Illumos</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> I have a question for developers here:</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> How important is suspend/resume for OI/Illumos (including S4)?</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> One of the incomplete projects left behind was S4 (lack of need, and</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> a</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> hard to identify bug stifled it's integration). It is non-trivial,</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> and</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> needs updated s/r core code (added configuration and significant</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> restructuring, as well as likely assistance from developers</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> knowlegable in</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> other Illumos internals), but if this is an uninteresting feature, it</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> is</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> likey not worth the effort (recent bugs suggest that few if anyone</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> use</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> it); however, it wouldn't be too hard to resurect (though would still</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> take</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> several months of work).</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> Cheers!</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> ---- Randy</p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>>>> illumos / illumos-developer / see discussions + participants +</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> delivery options Permalink</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> ------------------------------------------</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> illumos: illumos-developer</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Permalink:</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> https://illumos.topicbox.com/groups/developer/Tb3e65f5ac470e30c-Ma4a7672659b46c13f040eb9e</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> Delivery options:</p><p class=MsoNormal>>> https://illumos.topicbox.com/groups/developer/subscription</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> For my 2c, I have to use OI in a VM rather than baremetal on my laptop (would love to some day; it is part of my daily desktop for years now) because of a mix of these issues. While graphics and wifi drivers might be worked around by careful choice of hardware for a new rig, effective lack of sleep/hibernate is a big problem.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> My sessions of desktop OS uptime tend to be weeks and months long, many apps and tabs open... so rebooting every morning is not quite an option.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> Jim</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> --</p><p class=MsoNormal>> Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Android</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>------------------------------------------</p><p class=MsoNormal>illumos: illumos-developer</p><p class=MsoNormal>Permalink: https://illumos.topicbox.com/groups/developer/Tb3e65f5ac470e30c-M87936b070d0aa9c1490f0794</p><p class=MsoNormal>Delivery options: https://illumos.topicbox.com/groups/developer/subscription</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>