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<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>basically I prepared the package ;-) but I'm not able to push it
as described at the end at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://docs.openindiana.org/dev/userland/">https://docs.openindiana.org/dev/userland/</a>. I get (I did <code
class="bash hljs"><font size="4">git checkout -b Tk before)</font><br>
</code></p>
<font face="Courier New">git push origin Tk</font><br>
<font face="Courier New">remote: Permission to
OpenIndiana/oi-userland.git denied to fritzkink.</font>
<p>which is probably ok as it most likely has to be reviewed by
maintainers first. Otherwise I'm just struggling with my limited
git experience.</p>
<p>kind regards,</p>
<p> Fritz<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 28.12.2021 um 20:19 schrieb
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:stes@PANDORA.BE">stes@PANDORA.BE</a>:<br>
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cite="mid:2041716423.40837664.1640719194505.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be">
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Personally I'd like to request a perl tk package.
This can be used for TeXLive on OpenIndiana.
Currently the page <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://tug.org/texlive/distro.html">https://tug.org/texlive/distro.html</a> lists:
Debian: aptitude install perl-tk
Ubuntu: apt-get install perl-tk
Gentoo: emerge dev-perl/Tk # older: dev-perl/tk
...
but no OpenIndiana. However I'm sure that if there were a perl-tk package, then it'd work for TexLive install-tl.
It would be nice if you could just do "pkg install perl-tk" in OpenIndiana.
This is a personal opinion, I do not know whether such a package would be hard/difficult to make,
and whether it would be accepted. But TCL/Tk is in the OpenIndiana repo. TCL version 8.6.12,
which should be fine for TexLive as this requests TCL 8.5 or higher.
In fact I am sure perl/tk works, I compile it manually for the tlmgr -gui:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://docs.openindiana.org/handbook/community/texlive/">http://docs.openindiana.org/handbook/community/texlive/</a>
Anyway if you would have a look at the Perl packages, I guess that would be a most welcome contribution.
Regards,
David Stes
----- Op 28 dec 2021 om 13:11 schreef oi-dev <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:oi-dev@openindiana.org">oi-dev@openindiana.org</a>:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Hello Tim,
thank you for the warm welcome. And thank you for the very valuable
answers and hints. They helped already a lot. I guess I 'll need some
more time to get to the nitty-gritty details. But I hope to be able to
upload a first package soon.
Fritz
Am 27.12.2021 um 23:11 schrieb Tim Mooney via oi-dev:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">In regard to: [oi-dev] some Newbie questions, Friedrich Kink via
oi-dev...:
Hello and welcom, Fritz!
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">reading silently for a couple of years this mailing list I decided
now to contribute to the community my extensions I made over the
years to my system (at least I'd like to try ;-)). The main purpose
of my system is to act as mail server supporting all modern security
features like DANE, SPF, DKIM, DMARC etc (which works btw for couple
of years already, basically I started with opensolaris). That's why
I'll focus on those packages. Of course I've some questions after
starting this endeavor. Especially when trying to build Spamassassin
which requires a lot of additional Perl modules. While start building
these modules it turned out that the provided 64bit Perl version 5.24
is pretty outdated. So I built the current stable version 5.34 based
on the existing 5.24 setup. Worked like a charm ;-). Now first
question: Is there a reason/dependency for not upgrading to a newer
version?
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It's likely a combination of
- limited contributor time
- contributor interest
- complexity of the task
I do have an update to perl planned, but there are some details
to work out and I probably won't be back to looking at the perl modules
until I'm done with some MATE-related stuff.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Next question: Some Perl modules have odd version like 1.04 which
makes publishing a package impossible because of the padding zero in
the number after the dot. What is the reason for bailing out on a
padding zero (just a question for me and my understanding ;-))?
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That reason for that is probably documented in the documentation for pkg,
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://docs.openindiana.org/dev/pdf/ips-dev-guide.pdf">http://docs.openindiana.org/dev/pdf/ips-dev-guide.pdf</a>
though I would have to do some searching to find the exact section. I
think it comes down to "design choice".
As much as I like perl and have done lots of programming with it over
the years, its module numbering system leaves a lot to be desired. The
standardization on "semantic versioning" that most other software has
done would be a welcome change in the perl module community, IMHO. That,
of course, will never happen, but it sure would be nice if it did.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Also, some packages will require a new user and/or group. Are
uids/gids managed centrally or can I just choose some numbers <100
not used to my best knowledge?
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There is a file in oi-userland that documents the reserved IDs:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/blob/oi/hipster/doc/reserved_uids_and_gids.md">https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/blob/oi/hipster/doc/reserved_uids_and_gids.md</a>
If you need to add to that list, starting with a PR for that file is
probably the way to go.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">How to store test results (I haven't found the trick where the
results get stored in the test directory while comparing existing
packages with mine).
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Create the test directory and within there create (touch)
results-32.master # if your component has a 32 bit build
results-64.master # if your component has a 64 bit build
there are other possible variants the file could be named, for special
build conditions. Look through the test directories for the various
components in oi-userland to get an idea of other possibilities.
Then, add various COMPONENT_TEST_TRANSFORMS to your Makefile, to filter
out any of the test output that will vary between build systems (PATHs,
timing, etc.).
Once you have (empty) results files, the test target will start
outputting
diffs. Incorporate the output into your results files until there are
no more diffs.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">And finally when I think I'm ready to release my package would this
list be the place to ask for integration?
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">
You can mention it here if you want, but following the "Building with
oi-userland" guide has a section on preparing your Github pull request
(PR). Most of the component update work happens following that guide,
and the final integration piece comes via the pull request.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://docs.openindiana.org/dev/userland/">http://docs.openindiana.org/dev/userland/</a>
Tim
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