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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 17.08.25 um 01:12 schrieb Atiq
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<div>Hello Andreas,</div>
<div>> too complex (eg. signal, visual studio code)</div>
<div>both of these are electron based apps. We don't have an
electron js package on OI ?</div>
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Electron is based on nodejs and chromium. We don't have chromium yet
and thus no electron.<br>
We have only a small number of maintainers. Some people don't
participate regularly but only add one or more packages they want to
have. That's sometimes a problem because usually they need further
maitainership because of environment changes (eg. libraries they use
got updated).<br>
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<div>> or closed source (eg. whatsapp)</div>
<div>Does the web app linking work? On desktop I have always
used that, way more stable and less cranky than a native
whatsapp desktop app.</div>
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I don't know what you mean by that.<br>
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while macos is my first</p>
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fantastic open-source OS like pop_os instead. Many folks
are using that one exactly for all those purposes. If
you're using AI tools for photos you probably don't need
much fancy desktop photo editing apps anymore.</p>
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I already tried pop-os but wasn't satisfied. I don't use the photo
editing apps for their AI tools only. I prefer to have full control
and use AI where it seems appropriate for me. Plus I need stability
which only the mac provides. When joining a video conference
everything should work and to my experience that's not the case with
any Linux distribution I tried.
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<div>Am 16.08.25 um 11:21 schrieb Atiq Rahman:<br>
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<div>Hello Stephan,</div>
<div>> now i just swap the boot discs. Its far
easier.... additional boot disc (128-512 gb?)</div>
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I am not Stephan but will nevertheless try to explain my
setup.<br>
I see OpenIndiana as a workstation platform that can also be
used as a server platform.<br>
(OmniOS is in my eyes the exact opposite: it's a server
platform that can also be used as a workstation one.)<br>
Of course many things are still missing in OI due to lack of
resources,<br>
some of them most probably will never appear on it because
they are either far too complex (eg. signal, visual studio
code) or closed source (eg. whatsapp).<br>
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I use OI as my secondary operating system while macos is my
first. This is due to the fact that I want or need to use
some software that is not available on OI (eg. sophisticated
photo editing, tax declaration, video conferecing, ...). Of
course I use OI on my own home server, too.<br>
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I have started to use mixed OS installations on single disks
in the far past and stopped that when disks became
affordable. The following time I have been using the
multiple disk approach that Stephan mentioned. Partly I am
still using that but I also have some old workstations (eg.
Fujitsu W530) which are really cheap nowadays.<br>
This is my preferred approach today because I can install
any OS I want to experiment with on them without hesitation.<br>
Usually all of them run OI, though. That's because I need
test platforms for fundamental changes which have many
implications on other packages. But I only need this because
I am one of the OI maintainers.<br>
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I already tried to explain in a previous reply why OI is my
secondary OS. Everything else I tried (and I tried a lot)
has drawbacks that make me prefer OI over them. One
important reason is that as a maintainer I can
change/influence what and how OI provides software easily.
It is quite easy to become an OI maintainer (I know this for
sure as I am in a position to add maintainers); I think it's
almost as easy as becoming a maintainer of your own
operating system.<br>
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Furthermore, OI as a successor of OpenSolaris, has some
mostly hidden features that can only be found by intensive
use of OI. The typical distro hopper who always seeks for a
better environment spending his/her time
installing/collecting operating systems (or simply Linux
distributions) won't be able to find because a couple of
minutes is not enough to find and understand them.<br>
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<div>> FreeBSD has switched around the terms
“slice” and “partition”. They are using
“slice" for fdisk/mbr case and “partition” for
everything else.</div>
<div>Thank you for sharing the fun fact!</div>
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<p>Hi all!</p>
<p>Just to share my humble opinion..</p>
<p>Partitioning is a point where i had my
'problems', too. These slices never really burnt
in my mind, ('slice 2 is whole disc' - why no.
2??) </p>
<p>Especially for new users without solarish
bachground a tool that is 'like fdisk' would be
handy - i really don't like format and fdisk
cause i don't really know what they do :-/</p>
<p>On OI we have "parted", "gdisk" and "cgdisk"
which are sort of this, for 'modern' GPT disc
labels. <br>
That's really great. With UEFI working now
flawlessly i don't need anything else anymore.</p>
<p>For me, i now use UFEI boot using whoe disc, in
one case i did pre-partinioning to create a pool
that is smaller than whole disc for later
mirroing..,<br>
and zfs pools with 'whole disc' devices.</p>
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<p>~10 years ago i battled with dual boot setups,
now i just swap the boot discs. Its far easier. <br>
These some € more for additional boot disc
(128-512 gb?) really free spare time to create
something more productive.</p>
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<p>Just my 2 cents,</p>
<p>Stephan</p>
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