From bentahyr at chez.com  Wed Jul  1 07:51:49 2015
From: bentahyr at chez.com (bentahyr at chez.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 09:51:49 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Who is trying to break in ?
In-Reply-To: <DA9F3378-D919-47E1-A639-70BB48F707D6@cos.ru>
Message-ID: <259560875.110962933.1435737109407.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>

Hi, 
I've been using sshl to multiplex openvpn, https and ssh on port 443 to be able to go through anything and before that I was using tcpproxy for the same reason.
I'm pretty impressed by sshl and I hope to use it when I replace the linux all-in-one box by an refurbished Ultra 20/hipster.

To be honest, for a very long time I had port 22 opened as well for ssh the time to trust sshl and the difference is quite noticeable, security wise.
On the other hand, if you don't allow root login, have good passwords for users and root and log rotation correctly set, port 22 or not is just a convenience question but I'm not a security guy, really.

Ben.

----- Mail original -----
De: "Jim Klimov" <jimklimov at cos.ru>
?: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org>, "Till Wegm?ller" <toasterson at gmail.com>
Envoy?: Lundi 29 Juin 2015 21:02:44
Objet: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Who is trying to break in ?

29 ???? 2015??. 9:37:26 CEST, "Till Wegm?ller" <toasterson at gmail.com> ?????:
>Brogy?nyi J?zsef schrieb am Sunday 28 June 2015 11.01:55:
>
>> /The last was strange a little bit because he wanted to switch of the
>
>> server. I think you have to change the 21 and 22 communication port.
>> I use the 443 port for ssh. I can reach the server easily from
>anywhere 
>> because every company left it open that port.
>
>I Advise Strongly against using a different port for SSH. Especially a
>port like 443 which by default is used by apache and other webservers.
>Some Webservers might refuse to launch depending on their
>configuration.
>
>> I've noticed some text output before shutting down the system.
>> It seems someone ( or bots ) are constantly trying to log in as root.
>
>Yea there are some Chinese Bot nets that scan for open SSH Ports and
>try to log in with root. I have them on every SSH capable server which
>is Internet reachable. They don't only scan 22 but also 666 or 1337.
>But they only make tries with weak default passwords like 12345. 
>
>If you want to block them I suggest the Tool fail2ban. I use it on my
>Linux boxes and it works like a charm. There also seems to be a Port
>for snv_134 https://github.com/jamesstout/fail2ban-0.8.4-OpenSolaris
>but I haven't tested that.
>
>Greetings Till
>
>_______________________________________________
>openindiana-discuss mailing list
>openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss

Got no qualms about ssh (or openvpn) on port 443 - indeed, if one sets up something non-standard, gotta be ready for the consequences. And to all ids'es and sniffers, cryptotraffic looks much the same (different dynamic flow patterns may be discerned by the smarter filters out there though).

As was said earlier, many networks (especially free wifi, and some cellulars) only allow http(s) outwards, so there's not much choice for road-workers.

Also, there are server-side projects to colocate frontends for https and ssh or openvpn on the same socket to veil it even more.


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From jimklimov at cos.ru  Wed Jul  1 10:15:04 2015
From: jimklimov at cos.ru (Jim Klimov)
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 12:15:04 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Who is trying to break in ?
In-Reply-To: <259560875.110962933.1435737109407.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
References: <259560875.110962933.1435737109407.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
Message-ID: <89806523-1B81-4844-8B02-73C76777472E@cos.ru>

1 ???? 2015??. 9:51:49 CEST, bentahyr at chez.com ?????:
>Hi, 
>I've been using sshl to multiplex openvpn, https and ssh on port 443 to
>be able to go through anything and before that I was using tcpproxy for
>the same reason.
>I'm pretty impressed by sshl and I hope to use it when I replace the
>linux all-in-one box by an refurbished Ultra 20/hipster.
>
>To be honest, for a very long time I had port 22 opened as well for ssh
>the time to trust sshl and the difference is quite noticeable, security
>wise.
>On the other hand, if you don't allow root login, have good passwords
>for users and root and log rotation correctly set, port 22 or not is
>just a convenience question but I'm not a security guy, really.
>
>Ben.
>
>----- Mail original -----
>De: "Jim Klimov" <jimklimov at cos.ru>
>?: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana"
><openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org>, "Till Wegm?ller"
><toasterson at gmail.com>
>Envoy?: Lundi 29 Juin 2015 21:02:44
>Objet: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Who is trying to break in ?
>
>29 ???? 2015??. 9:37:26 CEST, "Till Wegm?ller" <toasterson at gmail.com>
>?????:
>>Brogy?nyi J?zsef schrieb am Sunday 28 June 2015 11.01:55:
>>
>>> /The last was strange a little bit because he wanted to switch of
>the
>>
>>> server. I think you have to change the 21 and 22 communication port.
>>> I use the 443 port for ssh. I can reach the server easily from
>>anywhere 
>>> because every company left it open that port.
>>
>>I Advise Strongly against using a different port for SSH. Especially a
>>port like 443 which by default is used by apache and other webservers.
>>Some Webservers might refuse to launch depending on their
>>configuration.
>>
>>> I've noticed some text output before shutting down the system.
>>> It seems someone ( or bots ) are constantly trying to log in as
>root.
>>
>>Yea there are some Chinese Bot nets that scan for open SSH Ports and
>>try to log in with root. I have them on every SSH capable server which
>>is Internet reachable. They don't only scan 22 but also 666 or 1337.
>>But they only make tries with weak default passwords like 12345. 
>>
>>If you want to block them I suggest the Tool fail2ban. I use it on my
>>Linux boxes and it works like a charm. There also seems to be a Port
>>for snv_134 https://github.com/jamesstout/fail2ban-0.8.4-OpenSolaris
>>but I haven't tested that.
>>
>>Greetings Till
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>openindiana-discuss mailing list
>>openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>>http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>
>Got no qualms about ssh (or openvpn) on port 443 - indeed, if one sets
>up something non-standard, gotta be ready for the consequences. And to
>all ids'es and sniffers, cryptotraffic looks much the same (different
>dynamic flow patterns may be discerned by the smarter filters out there
>though).
>
>As was said earlier, many networks (especially free wifi, and some
>cellulars) only allow http(s) outwards, so there's not much choice for
>road-workers.
>
>Also, there are server-side projects to colocate frontends for https
>and ssh or openvpn on the same socket to veil it even more.
>
>
>--
>Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android
>
>_______________________________________________
>openindiana-discuss mailing list
>openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>
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You can also boost security with no passwords allowed, keys only for ssh auth ;)
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From jim at cos.ru  Wed Jul  1 13:20:56 2015
From: jim at cos.ru (Jim Klimov)
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 15:20:56 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pkg(5) in alternate roots
Message-ID: <fc776a65623.55940558@cos.ru>

Hello all,


Due to my split-root configurations, I often do OI/OmniOS upgrades in a pre-created cloned BE (automated by https://github.com/jimklimov/illumos-splitroot-scripts since the generic beadm/zfs clone do a poor job with customized zfs attributes on child datasets). As part of an upgrade, I do a chroot into the mounted new BE to use the pkg(5) "in place" (and with altroot of "/") and if this fails - I fall back to alternate root (-R) with the unchanged pkg(5) version installed in the original BE. In either case, I pass the "--deny-new-be" parameter to pkg(5). (relevant code snippet is presented below in this message)


However there are some packages whose upgrades seem to require a "non-Live BE" installation. And even though I install to an alternate BE, they fail. Is there some way around this, beside fixing pkg(5) itself?


For example, recently I got the state below: the pkg program got updated in the new BE, but it could not be used via chroot due to "live image" concerns, and the old pkg(5) in original BE did not suffice for the upgrades. A reboot into the new BE and another upgrade request fixes this, but that's kind of unwieldy. And installing new pkg into old BE goes somewhat against the purpose of BEs (unchanged old state I can roll back into - thus including escape from broken pkg(5) as any other bit of system software).


Screenshot from the script:



===== Updating PKG software itself
Packages to update: 1


DOWNLOAD ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?PKGS ? ? ? ? FILES ? ?XFER (MB) ? SPEED
Completed ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?1/1 ? ? ? ? 16/16 ? ? ?0.3/0.3 ?303k/s


PHASE ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?ITEMS
Removing old actions ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1/1
Updating modified actions ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?18/18
Updating package state database ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Done
Updating package cache ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1/1
Updating image state ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Done
Creating fast lookup database ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Done
Reading search index ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Done
Updating search index ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?1/1



===== Updating the image with new PKG software via chroot
pkg update: The proposed operation cannot be performed on a live image.
===== Updating the image with old PKG software via altroot
WARNING: pkg(5) appears to be out of date, and should be updated before
running update. ?Please update pkg(5) by executing 'pkg install
pkg:/package/pkg' as a privileged user and then retry the update.
===== Updating the image with old PKG software via altroot and allowed refresh
WARNING: pkg(5) appears to be out of date, and should be updated before
running update. ?Please update pkg(5) by executing 'pkg install
pkg:/package/pkg' as a privileged user and then retry the update.




The corresponding part of the script (and exact command-lines involved) are here:


...

? ? ? ? { echo "===== Updating PKG software itself"
? ? ? ? ? ### This clause should fail if no 'pkg' updates were available, or if a
? ? ? ? ? ### chrooted upgrade attempt with the new 'pkg' failed - both ways fall
? ? ? ? ? ### through to altroot upgrade attempt
? ? ? ? ? if /usr/bin/pkg -R "$BENEW_MNT" update --no-refresh --accept --deny-new-be --no-backup-be pkg; then \
? ? ? ? ? ? echo "===== Updating the image with new PKG software via chroot"
? ? ? ? ? ? chroot "$BENEW_MNT" /usr/bin/pkg -R / image-update --no-refresh --accept --deny-new-be --no-backup-be
? ? ? ? ? else false; fi; } || \
? ? ? ? { echo "===== Updating the image with old PKG software via altroot"
? ? ? ? ? /usr/bin/pkg -R "$BENEW_MNT" image-update --no-refresh --accept --deny-new-be --no-backup-be; } || \
? ? ? ? { echo "===== Updating the image with old PKG software via altroot and allowed refresh"
? ? ? ? ? /usr/bin/pkg -R "$BENEW_MNT" image-update --accept --deny-new-be --no-backup-be; }
...




Essentially, what I want is for pkg(5) to correctly guess, or be told by the caller, that it in fact does not modify a "live" image and so can do anything dangerous it would please to do.


Thanks in advance,
Jim Klimov





From bfriesen at simple.dallas.tx.us  Wed Jul  1 13:48:48 2015
From: bfriesen at simple.dallas.tx.us (Bob Friesenhahn)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 08:48:48 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Who is trying to break in ?
In-Reply-To: <89806523-1B81-4844-8B02-73C76777472E@cos.ru>
References: <259560875.110962933.1435737109407.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
	<89806523-1B81-4844-8B02-73C76777472E@cos.ru>
Message-ID: <alpine.GSO.2.01.1507010844220.4186@freddy.simplesystems.org>

On Wed, 1 Jul 2015, Jim Klimov wrote:
>
> You can also boost security with no passwords allowed, keys only for ssh auth ;)

This certainly helps, but a remote compromised machine could still use 
those keys to log in to your system.  Hopefully users of those keys do 
apply a passphrase to them.  If the remote machine is compromised, 
then the key passphrase could be captured by keystroke logging and the 
private key file could be copied at that time.

Bob
-- 
Bob Friesenhahn
bfriesen at simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/
GraphicsMagick Maintainer,    http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/


From juzhenliang at gmail.com  Wed Jul  1 17:01:12 2015
From: juzhenliang at gmail.com (WarGrey Gyoudmon Ju)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 01:01:12 +0800
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] how to trace what stops the daemon from
	sleeping?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.GSO.2.01.1506301732530.1409@freddy.simplesystems.org>
References: <CAFp0D56z0MEJ+6L8vSazVEZtN5X9cmG6E0h_q=5knPb_y95R6g@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.GSO.2.01.1506241400000.5760@freddy.simplesystems.org>
	<CAFp0D56iz3ds99hF4otCt=o5iY5khZy5-Gs=M17GYX1t+==C7Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.GSO.2.01.1506301732530.1409@freddy.simplesystems.org>
Message-ID: <CAFp0D55qUGzTFRuOss344dY==Qfj4cdZdO-=QGyJjbGfRyfpGQ@mail.gmail.com>

Now the problem is solved.
I rebuilt Racket without defining HAVE_POLL_SYSCALL.
So it is running with select(), and pollsys() is still on the top of stack.

The LD_PRELOAD way fails as before.

Thanks.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Bob Friesenhahn <
bfriesen at simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, WarGrey Gyoudmon Ju wrote:
>
>  Thank you, Bob.
>>
>> Finally I found the root cause is that pollsys is called too frequently.
>> and this problem seems quite normal in Solaris family.
>>
>
> I am pretty sure that this has nothing to do with power management (as
> other have suggested).
>
> The poll() call can wait for activities on file descriptors but can also
> be used for time-out such as for periodic event loops.  Some software is
> written poorly and executes periodic event loops quite often.
>
> If you don't have source for the program, it might be possible to "fix" it
> by using the LD_PRELOAD enviroment variable and a tiny shared library which
> replaces poll() with one which insists on longer timeouts.  This might
> cause other problems to occur in the software though.
>
>
> Bob
> --
> Bob Friesenhahn
> bfriesen at simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/
> GraphicsMagick Maintainer,    http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/
>
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>

From jimklimov at cos.ru  Wed Jul  1 18:21:29 2015
From: jimklimov at cos.ru (Jim Klimov)
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 20:21:29 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [OmniOS-discuss] pkg(5) in alternate roots
In-Reply-To: <fc776a65623.55940558@cos.ru>
References: <fc776a65623.55940558@cos.ru>
Message-ID: <1005F94C-AA59-4E20-95F2-375DB05094B4@cos.ru>

1 ???? 2015??. 15:20:56 CEST, Jim Klimov <jim at cos.ru> ?????:
>Hello all,
>
>
>Due to my split-root configurations, I often do OI/OmniOS upgrades in a
>pre-created cloned BE (automated by
>https://github.com/jimklimov/illumos-splitroot-scripts since the
>generic beadm/zfs clone do a poor job with customized zfs attributes on
>child datasets). As part of an upgrade, I do a chroot into the mounted
>new BE to use the pkg(5) "in place" (and with altroot of "/") and if
>this fails - I fall back to alternate root (-R) with the unchanged
>pkg(5) version installed in the original BE. In either case, I pass the
>"--deny-new-be" parameter to pkg(5). (relevant code snippet is
>presented below in this message)
>
>
>However there are some packages whose upgrades seem to require a
>"non-Live BE" installation. And even though I install to an alternate
>BE, they fail. Is there some way around this, beside fixing pkg(5)
>itself?
>
>
>For example, recently I got the state below: the pkg program got
>updated in the new BE, but it could not be used via chroot due to "live
>image" concerns, and the old pkg(5) in original BE did not suffice for
>the upgrades. A reboot into the new BE and another upgrade request
>fixes this, but that's kind of unwieldy. And installing new pkg into
>old BE goes somewhat against the purpose of BEs (unchanged old state I
>can roll back into - thus including escape from broken pkg(5) as any
>other bit of system software).
>
>
>Screenshot from the script:
>
>
>
>===== Updating PKG software itself
>Packages to update: 1
>
>
>DOWNLOAD ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?PKGS ? ? ? ? FILES ? ?XFER (MB)
>? SPEED
>Completed ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?1/1 ? ? ? ? 16/16 ? ? ?0.3/0.3
>?303k/s
>
>
>PHASE ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?ITEMS
>Removing old actions ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1/1
>Updating modified actions ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?18/18
>Updating package state database ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Done
>Updating package cache ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1/1
>Updating image state ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Done
>Creating fast lookup database ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Done
>Reading search index ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Done
>Updating search index ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?1/1
>
>
>
>===== Updating the image with new PKG software via chroot
>pkg update: The proposed operation cannot be performed on a live image.
>===== Updating the image with old PKG software via altroot
>WARNING: pkg(5) appears to be out of date, and should be updated before
>running update. ?Please update pkg(5) by executing 'pkg install
>pkg:/package/pkg' as a privileged user and then retry the update.
>===== Updating the image with old PKG software via altroot and allowed
>refresh
>WARNING: pkg(5) appears to be out of date, and should be updated before
>running update. ?Please update pkg(5) by executing 'pkg install
>pkg:/package/pkg' as a privileged user and then retry the update.
>
>
>
>
>The corresponding part of the script (and exact command-lines involved)
>are here:
>
>
>...
>
>? ? ? ? { echo "===== Updating PKG software itself"
>? ? ? ? ? ### This clause should fail if no 'pkg' updates were
>available, or if a
>? ? ? ? ? ### chrooted upgrade attempt with the new 'pkg' failed - both
>ways fall
>? ? ? ? ? ### through to altroot upgrade attempt
>? ? ? ? ? if /usr/bin/pkg -R "$BENEW_MNT" update --no-refresh --accept
>--deny-new-be --no-backup-be pkg; then \
>? ? ? ? ? ? echo "===== Updating the image with new PKG software via
>chroot"
>? ? ? ? ? ? chroot "$BENEW_MNT" /usr/bin/pkg -R / image-update
>--no-refresh --accept --deny-new-be --no-backup-be
>? ? ? ? ? else false; fi; } || \
>? ? ? ? { echo "===== Updating the image with old PKG software via
>altroot"
>? ? ? ? ? /usr/bin/pkg -R "$BENEW_MNT" image-update --no-refresh
>--accept --deny-new-be --no-backup-be; } || \
>? ? ? ? { echo "===== Updating the image with old PKG software via
>altroot and allowed refresh"
>? ? ? ? ? /usr/bin/pkg -R "$BENEW_MNT" image-update --accept
>--deny-new-be --no-backup-be; }
>...
>
>
>
>
>Essentially, what I want is for pkg(5) to correctly guess, or be told
>by the caller, that it in fact does not modify a "live" image and so
>can do anything dangerous it would please to do.
>
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Jim Klimov
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>OmniOS-discuss mailing list
>OmniOS-discuss at lists.omniti.com
>http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss

I guess i found the workaround - the pkg(5) script honors some PKG_LIVE_ROOT variable, for unittesting from what i gather, that along with -R allows to not create BEs for packages that otherwise need them.

I guess this is not a committed api, but will have to do ;)

Jim
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From brodbd at uw.edu  Wed Jul  1 18:53:42 2015
From: brodbd at uw.edu (David Brodbeck)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 11:53:42 -0700
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Who is trying to break in ?
In-Reply-To: <89806523-1B81-4844-8B02-73C76777472E@cos.ru>
References: <259560875.110962933.1435737109407.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
	<89806523-1B81-4844-8B02-73C76777472E@cos.ru>
Message-ID: <CAHHaOua7YrG7Yx7Thb+Sw64CBy1CgrrqyD1DO562D=VQ40Yt2w@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 3:15 AM, Jim Klimov <jimklimov at cos.ru> wrote:

> You can also boost security with no passwords allowed, keys only for ssh
> auth ;)
>

True.  I do this with machines where I'm the only one who'll be logging
in.  With machines that have lots of other users it becomes too much of an
administrative hassle to distribute keys.

Does anyone know of a 2-factor auth system for SSH?  Being able to use
something like Google Authenticator would be nice.

-- 
D. Brodbeck
System Administrator, Linguistics
University of Washington
GPG key fingerprint: 0DB7 4B50 8910 DBC5 B510 79C4 3970 2BC3 2078 D875

From gary at genashor.com  Wed Jul  1 19:11:12 2015
From: gary at genashor.com (Gary Gendel)
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 15:11:12 -0400
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Who is trying to break in ?
In-Reply-To: <CAHHaOua7YrG7Yx7Thb+Sw64CBy1CgrrqyD1DO562D=VQ40Yt2w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <259560875.110962933.1435737109407.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>	<89806523-1B81-4844-8B02-73C76777472E@cos.ru>
	<CAHHaOua7YrG7Yx7Thb+Sw64CBy1CgrrqyD1DO562D=VQ40Yt2w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55943B50.1040303@genashor.com>

Google Authenticator has a PAM module. I haven't tried it but I know 
it's available for several Linux distros.  I'm not sure how difficult it 
would be to port to OI.

http://www.tecmint.com/ssh-two-factor-authentication/

On 07/01/2015 02:53 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 3:15 AM, Jim Klimov <jimklimov at cos.ru> wrote:
>
>> You can also boost security with no passwords allowed, keys only for ssh
>> auth ;)
>>
> True.  I do this with machines where I'm the only one who'll be logging
> in.  With machines that have lots of other users it becomes too much of an
> administrative hassle to distribute keys.
>
> Does anyone know of a 2-factor auth system for SSH?  Being able to use
> something like Google Authenticator would be nice.
>



From gary at genashor.com  Wed Jul  1 19:47:34 2015
From: gary at genashor.com (Gary Gendel)
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 15:47:34 -0400
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Who is trying to break in ?
In-Reply-To: <55943B50.1040303@genashor.com>
References: <259560875.110962933.1435737109407.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>	<89806523-1B81-4844-8B02-73C76777472E@cos.ru>	<CAHHaOua7YrG7Yx7Thb+Sw64CBy1CgrrqyD1DO562D=VQ40Yt2w@mail.gmail.com>
	<55943B50.1040303@genashor.com>
Message-ID: <559443D6.9000500@genashor.com>

With some investigation, it looks like SmartOS has a package for this:

http://everycity.co.uk/alasdair/2013/09/two-factor-authentication-google-authenticator-smartos/

Gary

On 07/01/2015 03:11 PM, Gary Gendel wrote:
> Google Authenticator has a PAM module. I haven't tried it but I know 
> it's available for several Linux distros.  I'm not sure how difficult 
> it would be to port to OI.
>
> http://www.tecmint.com/ssh-two-factor-authentication/
>
> On 07/01/2015 02:53 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 3:15 AM, Jim Klimov <jimklimov at cos.ru> wrote:
>>
>>> You can also boost security with no passwords allowed, keys only for 
>>> ssh
>>> auth ;)
>>>
>> True.  I do this with machines where I'm the only one who'll be logging
>> in.  With machines that have lots of other users it becomes too much 
>> of an
>> administrative hassle to distribute keys.
>>
>> Does anyone know of a 2-factor auth system for SSH?  Being able to use
>> something like Google Authenticator would be nice.
>>
>
>
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From matt.boswell at medsphere.com  Thu Jul  2 00:16:13 2015
From: matt.boswell at medsphere.com (Matt Boswell)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 00:16:13 +0000
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for LSI-2308 SAS controller in
	oi_151a8
Message-ID: <D1B9D0DB.1509C%matt.boswell@medsphere.com>

Hi all,

We bit the bullet and bought a companion storage server to use for ZFS replication and failover. Our main box is about 3 years old and is also running oi_151a8. We're running into some issues insisting that some of the disks are over-temperature (via console messages), and now format shows only 6 of the 26 disks installed in the system.  "fmadm faulty" shows what I expected, that a slew of disks exceeded temperature thresholds and have been marked as faulty.  I find this hard to believe, as the system is properly cooled, in a colo rack, and the sensors on board all show normal temperatures via IPMI.   FWIW these disks have never been used; they are brand new and waiting to be added into zpools.  The controller BIOS shows all the disks as connected and healthy.  Just wondering if anyone has run across this before and what can be done about it.  The hardware is SuperMicro 6047R-E1R24L and the disks are WD SAS 4TB drives, with two intel SSDs in the back for rpool and log devices.
Matt

From chip at innovates.com  Thu Jul  2 01:11:53 2015
From: chip at innovates.com (Schweiss, Chip)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 20:11:53 -0500
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for LSI-2308 SAS controller in
	oi_151a8
In-Reply-To: <D1B9D0DB.1509C%matt.boswell@medsphere.com>
References: <D1B9D0DB.1509C%matt.boswell@medsphere.com>
Message-ID: <CALeZrrQYkAoXqce=raLAmEijPCFoTfWtGktas_CidwrDt5gHCQ@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds exactly like a firmware problem that Seagate Constellations had.
With lsiutils you can read what threshold the disks report.

You likely need a firmware upgrade or downgrade for the disks.

-Chip


On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Matt Boswell <matt.boswell at medsphere.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We bit the bullet and bought a companion storage server to use for ZFS
> replication and failover. Our main box is about 3 years old and is also
> running oi_151a8. We're running into some issues insisting that some of the
> disks are over-temperature (via console messages), and now format shows
> only 6 of the 26 disks installed in the system.  "fmadm faulty" shows what
> I expected, that a slew of disks exceeded temperature thresholds and have
> been marked as faulty.  I find this hard to believe, as the system is
> properly cooled, in a colo rack, and the sensors on board all show normal
> temperatures via IPMI.   FWIW these disks have never been used; they are
> brand new and waiting to be added into zpools.  The controller BIOS shows
> all the disks as connected and healthy.  Just wondering if anyone has run
> across this before and what can be done about it.  The hardware is
> SuperMicro 6047R-E1R24L and the disks are WD SAS 4TB drives, with two intel
> SSDs in the back for rpool and log devices.
> Matt
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>

From jason at broken.net  Thu Jul  2 01:27:27 2015
From: jason at broken.net (Jason Matthews)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 18:27:27 -0700
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for LSI-2308 SAS controller in
	oi_151a8
In-Reply-To: <D1B9D0DB.1509C%matt.boswell@medsphere.com>
References: <D1B9D0DB.1509C%matt.boswell@medsphere.com>
Message-ID: <6FFA3A69-9C1E-4AE4-BE87-9B0065BB257A@broken.net>


Hp had a similar problem on their controllers. SSDs would invoke a thermal shut down. 

Return the drives for hgst counter parts. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 1, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Matt Boswell <matt.boswell at medsphere.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> We bit the bullet and bought a companion storage server to use for ZFS replication and failover. Our main box is about 3 years old and is also running oi_151a8. We're running into some issues insisting that some of the disks are over-temperature (via console messages), and now format shows only 6 of the 26 disks installed in the system.  "fmadm faulty" shows what I expected, that a slew of disks exceeded temperature thresholds and have been marked as faulty.  I find this hard to believe, as the system is properly cooled, in a colo rack, and the sensors on board all show normal temperatures via IPMI.   FWIW these disks have never been used; they are brand new and waiting to be added into zpools.  The controller BIOS shows all the disks as connected and healthy.  Just wondering if anyone has run across this before and what can be done about it.  The hardware is SuperMicro 6047R-E1R24L and the disks are WD SAS 4TB drives, with two intel SSDs in the back for rpool and log devices.
> Matt
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
> 


From matt.boswell at medsphere.com  Thu Jul  2 01:29:05 2015
From: matt.boswell at medsphere.com (Matt Boswell)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 01:29:05 +0000
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for LSI-2308 SAS controller in
 oi_151a8
In-Reply-To: <CALeZrrQYkAoXqce=raLAmEijPCFoTfWtGktas_CidwrDt5gHCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D1B9D0DB.1509C%matt.boswell@medsphere.com>
	<CALeZrrQYkAoXqce=raLAmEijPCFoTfWtGktas_CidwrDt5gHCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D1B9DF40.150A1%matt.boswell@medsphere.com>

Ouch. Thanks.  I?ll do some research.

On a related note, we?re using Constellations in our other build.  No
firmware problems, but we?ve had lots of failures.  The difference is that
we?re presenting them to OI as vdevs on the RAID controller rather than
JBOD.  Wonder if that might be a workaround; to create a bunch of single
disk RAID0 vdevs.

Matt

On 7/1/15, 6:11 PM, "Schweiss, Chip" <chip at innovates.com> wrote:

>Sounds exactly like a firmware problem that Seagate Constellations had.
>With lsiutils you can read what threshold the disks report.
>
>You likely need a firmware upgrade or downgrade for the disks.
>
>-Chip
>
>
>On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Matt Boswell <matt.boswell at medsphere.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We bit the bullet and bought a companion storage server to use for ZFS
>> replication and failover. Our main box is about 3 years old and is also
>> running oi_151a8. We're running into some issues insisting that some of
>>the
>> disks are over-temperature (via console messages), and now format shows
>> only 6 of the 26 disks installed in the system.  "fmadm faulty" shows
>>what
>> I expected, that a slew of disks exceeded temperature thresholds and
>>have
>> been marked as faulty.  I find this hard to believe, as the system is
>> properly cooled, in a colo rack, and the sensors on board all show
>>normal
>> temperatures via IPMI.   FWIW these disks have never been used; they are
>> brand new and waiting to be added into zpools.  The controller BIOS
>>shows
>> all the disks as connected and healthy.  Just wondering if anyone has
>>run
>> across this before and what can be done about it.  The hardware is
>> SuperMicro 6047R-E1R24L and the disks are WD SAS 4TB drives, with two
>>intel
>> SSDs in the back for rpool and log devices.
>> Matt
>> _______________________________________________
>> openindiana-discuss mailing list
>> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>>
>_______________________________________________
>openindiana-discuss mailing list
>openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss



From matt.boswell at medsphere.com  Thu Jul  2 01:30:10 2015
From: matt.boswell at medsphere.com (Matt Boswell)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 01:30:10 +0000
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for LSI-2308 SAS controller in
 oi_151a8
In-Reply-To: <6FFA3A69-9C1E-4AE4-BE87-9B0065BB257A@broken.net>
References: <D1B9D0DB.1509C%matt.boswell@medsphere.com>
	<6FFA3A69-9C1E-4AE4-BE87-9B0065BB257A@broken.net>
Message-ID: <D1B9E20B.150BA%matt.boswell@medsphere.com>

Not sure I can return $8000 worth of drives, but if I have to, I will
certainly try.

M

On 7/1/15, 6:27 PM, "Jason Matthews" <jason at broken.net> wrote:

>
>Hp had a similar problem on their controllers. SSDs would invoke a
>thermal shut down.
>
>Return the drives for hgst counter parts.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 1, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Matt Boswell <matt.boswell at medsphere.com>
>>wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> We bit the bullet and bought a companion storage server to use for ZFS
>>replication and failover. Our main box is about 3 years old and is also
>>running oi_151a8. We're running into some issues insisting that some of
>>the disks are over-temperature (via console messages), and now format
>>shows only 6 of the 26 disks installed in the system.  "fmadm faulty"
>>shows what I expected, that a slew of disks exceeded temperature
>>thresholds and have been marked as faulty.  I find this hard to believe,
>>as the system is properly cooled, in a colo rack, and the sensors on
>>board all show normal temperatures via IPMI.   FWIW these disks have
>>never been used; they are brand new and waiting to be added into zpools.
>> The controller BIOS shows all the disks as connected and healthy.  Just
>>wondering if anyone has run across this before and what can be done
>>about it.  The hardware is SuperMicro 6047R-E1R24L and the disks are WD
>>SAS 4TB drives, with two intel SSDs in the back for rpool and log devic
> 
> es.
>> Matt
>> _______________________________________________
>> openindiana-discuss mailing list
>> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>> 
>
>_______________________________________________
>openindiana-discuss mailing list
>openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss



From toasterson at gmail.com  Thu Jul  2 08:25:16 2015
From: toasterson at gmail.com (Till =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wegm=FCller?=)
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 10:25:16 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Who is trying to break in ?
In-Reply-To: <CAHHaOua7YrG7Yx7Thb+Sw64CBy1CgrrqyD1DO562D=VQ40Yt2w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <259560875.110962933.1435737109407.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
	<89806523-1B81-4844-8B02-73C76777472E@cos.ru>
	<CAHHaOua7YrG7Yx7Thb+Sw64CBy1CgrrqyD1DO562D=VQ40Yt2w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1485163.055FRrMOx6@themos>

David Brodbeck schrieb am Wednesday 01 July 2015 11.53:42:
> Does anyone know of a 2-factor auth system for SSH?  Being able to use
> something like Google Authenticator would be nice.

There are Yubikey and DUO Security Modules available for PAM

There are also some generic Two factor Plugins available.

U2F: Industry Standard for Two Factor auth mostly pushed by oauth
OATH: NonGnu Project for Two Factor Tech
MOTP: Independent OpenSource Project

They should all theoretically work for OI, as PAM aims for Unix Compatibility.

Greetings Till


From jim at cos.ru  Thu Jul  2 09:33:31 2015
From: jim at cos.ru (Jim Klimov)
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 11:33:31 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [OmniOS-discuss] pkg(5) in alternate roots
In-Reply-To: <A941A78E-B723-4386-B215-799DAC44F8E1@omniti.com>
References: <fc776a65623.55940558@cos.ru>
	<A941A78E-B723-4386-B215-799DAC44F8E1@omniti.com>
Message-ID: <fc788a8932ba.5595218b@cos.ru>

??: Dan McDonald <danmcd at omniti.com>
????: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 19:43
> 
> > On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Jim Klimov <jim at cos.ru> wrote:
> > 
> > The corresponding part of the script (and exact command-lines 
> involved) are here:
> > 
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> >???????? { echo "===== 
> Updating PKG software itself"
> >?????????? 
> ### This clause should fail if no 'pkg' updates were available, 
> or if a
> >?????????? 
> ### chrooted upgrade attempt with the new 'pkg' failed - both 
> ways fall
> >?????????? 
> ### through to altroot upgrade attempt
> >?????????? if 
> /usr/bin/pkg -R "$BENEW_MNT" update --no-refresh --accept --deny-
> new-be --no-backup-be pkg; then \
> >???????????? echo "===== Updating the image with new PKG software via chroot"
> >???????????? chroot "$BENEW_MNT" /usr/bin/pkg -R / image-update --no-refresh --accept --deny-new-be --no-backup-be
> >?????????? 
> else false; fi; } || \
> >???????? { echo "===== 
> Updating the image with old PKG software via altroot"
> >?????????? 
> /usr/bin/pkg -R "$BENEW_MNT" image-update --no-refresh --accept -
> -deny-new-be --no-backup-be; } || \
> >???????? { echo "===== 
> Updating the image with old PKG software via altroot and allowed 
> refresh">?????????? /usr/bin/pkg -R "$BENEW_MNT" image-update --accept --deny-new-be --no-backup-be; }
> 
> Can you run these, one at a time, by hand, so we all can see the 
> exact output per command that's run?? It'll help at least 
> me get a better bead on what's wrong.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dan


Most of the output was in the screenshot just above that, and I guess I found a workaround?
that should suffice (will test more today), but for the sake of completeness, here goes:


The old BE was OmniOS bloody updated a month ago (20150602Z070407), new one with an updated pkg program was made yesterday, starting as the old one's clone (export BENEW=omnios-20150701Z065339-test) and the relevant tree was mounted into "/a" with my splitroot scripts from github:



###############################


:; ./beadm-mount.sh
omnios-20150701Z065339-test does not exist or appear to be a valid BE.
Please check that the name of the BE provided is correct.
=== Will clone omnios-20150602Z070407 into omnios-20150701Z065339-test, ok? Using these settings:
BENEW=omnios-20150701Z065339-test
BENEW_DS=rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test
BENEW_MNT=/a
BENEW_MPT=/a
BEOLD=omnios-20150602Z070407
BEOLD_DS=rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150602Z070407
BEOLD_MNT=/
BEOLD_MPT=/
EXCLUDE_ATTRS='org.opensolaris.libbe:uuid|canmount|mountpoint'
RPOOL=rpool
RPOOLALT=
RPOOL_ROOT=rpool/ROOT
RPOOL_SHARED=rpool/SHARED
? ? (Press ENTER or CTRL+C)


Created successfully
=== Created omnios-20150701Z065339-test based on omnios-20150602Z070407
=== Trying to replicate ZFS attributes from original to new BE...
===== ''
org.opensolaris.libbe:policy=static
org.openindiana.caiman:install=ready
===== '/opt'
compression=gzip-9
===== '/opt/local'
compression=gzip-9
===== '/usr'
compression=gzip-9
===== '/usr/local'
compression=gzip-9
===== '/var'
compression=gzip-9
===== '/var/db'
===== '/var/db/pkgin'
===== '/var/pkg'
compression=gzip-9
===== '/var/pkg/publisher'
=== Replicated custom ZFS attributes
Mounted successfully on: '/a'
=== Mounted omnios-20150701Z065339-test at /a
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test ? 153387008 ? ? ?721348 ? 124154515 ? ? 1% ? ?/a
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test/usr ? 153387008 ? ? ?758981 ? 124154515 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/usr
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test/usr/local ? 153387008 ? ? ? ? ?28 ? 124154515 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/usr/local
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test/opt ? 153387008 ? ? 1207927 ? 124154515 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/opt
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test/opt/local ? 153387008 ? ? ?811058 ? 124154515 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/opt/local
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test/var ? 153387008 ? ? ? 18600 ? 124154515 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/var
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test/var/db ? 153387008 ? ? ? ? ?33 ? 124154515 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/var/db
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test/var/db/pkgin ? 153387008 ? ? ?665190 ? 124154515 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/var/db/pkgin
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test/var/pkg ? 153387008 ? ? ? 38370 ? 124154515 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/var/pkg
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test/var/pkg/publisher ? 153387008 ? ? ? ?9364 ? 124154515 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/var/pkg/publisher
=== BE clone completed!


=== To upgrade from upstream do:
pkg -R "/a" image-update --deny-new-be --no-backup-be && touch "/a/reconfigure" && bootadm update-archive -R "/a" && beadm umount "omnios-20150701Z065339-test"


TS="`date -u "+%Y%m%dZ%H%M%S"`"
zfs snapshot -r "rpool/SHARED at postupgrade-$TS"
zfs snapshot -r "rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test at postupgrade-$TS"


beadm activate "omnios-20150701Z065339-test"
===


INFO: Unmounting any previous traces (if any - may fail), just in case
=== Unmounting BE omnios-20150701Z065339-test under '/a'...
===== beadm-unmounting omnios-20150701Z065339-test (/a)...
Unmounted successfully
Mounted successfully on: '/a'
BE ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Active Mountpoint Space Policy Created
omnios-20150701Z065339-test - ? ? ?/a ? ? ? ? 15.0K static 2015-07-01 17:09
===== lofs-mount '/tmp' at '/a/tmp'
===== lofs-mount '/proc' at '/a/proc'
===== lofs-mount '/dev' at '/a/dev'
===== lofs-mount '/devices' at '/a/devices'
===== lofs-mount '/var/adm' at '/a/var/adm'
===== lofs-mount '/var/cores' at '/a/var/cores'
===== lofs-mount '/var/crash' at '/a/var/crash'
===== lofs-mount '/var/log' at '/a/var/log'
===== lofs-mount '/var/mail' at '/a/var/mail'
===== lofs-mount '/var/spool/clientmqueue' at '/a/var/spool/clientmqueue'
===== lofs-mount '/var/spool/mqueue' at '/a/var/spool/mqueue'
===== lofs-mount '/var/tmp' at '/a/var/tmp'


BE ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Active Mountpoint Space Policy Created
omnios-20150701Z065339-test - ? ? ?/a ? ? ? ? 15.0K static 2015-07-01 17:09
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test ? 153387008 ? ? ?721348 ? 124154491 ? ? 1% ? ?/a
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test/usr ? 153387008 ? ? ?758981 ? 124154491 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/usr
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test/usr/local ? 153387008 ? ? ? ? ?28 ? 124154491 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/usr/local
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test/opt ? 153387008 ? ? 1207927 ? 124154491 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/opt
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test/opt/local ? 153387008 ? ? ?811058 ? 124154491 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/opt/local
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test/var ? 153387008 ? ? ? 18600 ? 124154491 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/var
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test/var/db ? 153387008 ? ? ? ? ?33 ? 124154491 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/var/db
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test/var/db/pkgin ? 153387008 ? ? ?665190 ? 124154491 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/var/db/pkgin
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test/var/pkg ? 153387008 ? ? ? 38370 ? 124154491 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/var/pkg
rpool/ROOT/omnios-20150701Z065339-test/var/pkg/publisher ? 153387008 ? ? ? ?9364 ? 124154491 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/var/pkg/publisher
/tmp ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?14744832 ? ? ? ? ?16 ? ?14744816 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/tmp
/proc ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0 ? ? ? ? ? 0 ? ? ? ? ? 0 ? ? 0% ? ?/a/proc
/dev ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 0 ? ? ? ? ? 0 ? ? ? ? ? 0 ? ? 0% ? ?/a/dev
/devices ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 0 ? ? ? ? ? 0 ? ? ? ? ? 0 ? ? 0% ? ?/a/devices
/var/adm ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 124172025 ? ? ? ?3071 ? 124168954 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/var/adm
/var/cores ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 5241366 ? ? ? ? ?19 ? ? 5241347 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/var/cores
/var/crash ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 5242880 ? ? ? ? ?19 ? ? 5242861 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/var/crash
/var/log ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 124173841 ? ? ? ? 337 ? 124173504 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/var/log
/var/mail ? ? ? ? ? ? ?124173921 ? ? ? ? 114 ? 124173807 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/var/mail
/var/spool/clientmqueue ? ? 2096461 ? ? ? ? ?26 ? ? 2096435 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/var/spool/clientmqueue
/var/spool/mqueue ? ? ? ?2096392 ? ? ? ? ?30 ? ? 2096362 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/var/spool/mqueue
/var/tmp ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 124515436 ? ? ?360944 ? 124154491 ? ? 1% ? ?/a/var/tmp


=== SUCCESS, (un)mounting operations completed for BE 'omnios-20150701Z065339-test' at '/a'


###############################




So, the tree above is mounted. Updating pkg under /a altroot itself (note the script does this via "pkg -R /a update pkg", but in the example below I do it via chroot to verify it generally works for this):



###############################

:; ?chroot /a /usr/bin/pkg -R / ?update pkg
WARNING: The boot environment being modified is not the active one. ?Changes
made will not be reflected on the next boot.


? ? ? ? ? ? Packages to update: ? 1
? ? ? ?Create boot environment: ?No
Create backup boot environment: Yes


DOWNLOAD ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?PKGS ? ? ? ? FILES ? ?XFER (MB) ? SPEED
Completed ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?1/1 ? ? ? ? 16/16 ? ? ?0.3/0.3 ?183k/s


PHASE ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?ITEMS
Removing old actions ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1/1
Updating modified actions ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?18/18
Updating package state database ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Done
Updating package cache ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1/1
Updating image state ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Done
Creating fast lookup database ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Done
Reading search index ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Done
Updating search index ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?1/1
###############################


Now, trying to update packages inside that altroot in different ways...


What the script tries?in the chroot:

###############################

:; chroot /a /usr/bin/pkg -R / image-update --no-refresh --accept --deny-new-be --no-backup-be
Creating Plan (Package planning: ?425/427): /
pkg update: The proposed operation cannot be performed on a live image.
###############################


Trying to cheat with a non-verbatim "/" altroot string in the chroot:

###############################

:; chroot /a /usr/bin/pkg -R /// image-update --no-refresh --accept --deny-new-be --no-backup-be
pkg update: The proposed operation cannot be performed on a live image.
###############################


Trying the two other ways the script attempts (original BE's old pkg over a new BE's packages)

###############################

:;?/usr/bin/pkg -R /a image-update --no-refresh --accept --deny-new-be --no-backup-be

Checking that pkg(5) is up to date -



WARNING: pkg(5) appears to be out of date, and should be updated before
running update. ?Please update pkg(5) by executing 'pkg install
pkg:/package/pkg' as a privileged user and then retry the update.
###############################


###############################

:; /usr/bin/pkg -R /a image-update --accept --deny-new-be --no-backup-be
WARNING: pkg(5) appears to be out of date, and should be updated before
running update. ?Please update pkg(5) by executing 'pkg install
pkg:/package/pkg' as a privileged user and then retry the update.
###############################




Finally, reading through the sources at /usr/bin/pkg and?/usr/lib/python2.*/vendor-packages/pkg/ I tracked the error message to decision points to is_liveroot() to obscure envvars and/or configuration settings that cause some boolean regarding required new BE's to be true or false regardless of package-reboot settings.


Here is a piece which made me think it is intended for debug and so might not be a piece of committed API (would love to be wrong on this point):?https://java.net/projects/ips/sources/pkg-gate/content/src/tests/api/t_bootenv.py#62


So, using PKG_LIVE_ROOT envvar, but no -R for altroot - no banana:

###############################

:; PKG_LIVE_ROOT=/ chroot /a /usr/bin/pkg image-update --no-refresh --accept --deny-new-be --no-backup-be
pkg update: The proposed operation cannot be performed on a live image.
###############################



Using both PKG_LIVE_ROOT envvar and -R for altroot - this is what ultimately succeeded, though only with a non-verbatim-"/" root directory string in this envvar:

###############################
:; PKG_LIVE_ROOT=/ chroot /a /usr/bin/pkg -R / image-update --no-refresh --accept --deny-new-be --no-backup-be
pkg update: The proposed operation cannot be performed on a live image.


:; PKG_LIVE_ROOT=/// chroot /a /usr/bin/pkg -R /// ?image-update --no-refresh --accept --deny-new-be --no-backup-be

?Packages to remove: ? 1
Packages to install: ? 2
?Packages to update: 424
?Services to change: ? 1


DOWNLOAD ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?PKGS ? ? ? ? FILES ? ?XFER (MB) ? SPEED
SUNWcs ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1/427 ? ? ?476/7699 ? ?6.4/418.8 ?1.1M/s^C





:; PKG_LIVE_ROOT=/// chroot /a /usr/bin/pkg -R / image-update --no-refresh --accept --deny-new-be --no-backup-be
?Packages to remove: ? 1
Packages to install: ? 2
?Packages to update: 424
?Services to change: ? 1


DOWNLOAD ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?PKGS ? ? ? ? FILES ? ?XFER (MB) ? SPEED
SUNWcs ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1/427 ? ? ? 96/7699 ? ?1.2/418.8 ?516k/s^C
###############################



From stefan.mueller-wilken at acando.de  Thu Jul  2 09:53:04 2015
From: stefan.mueller-wilken at acando.de (=?utf-8?B?U3RlZmFuIE3DvGxsZXItV2lsa2Vu?=)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 09:53:04 +0000
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Who is trying to break in ?
Message-ID: <80D191A7E0B2DF4688923CB3AA5C27DE55CCEFE8@pham0030.resco.local>

We're using OAUTH toolkit's pam modules on our OI boxes with very good results. There's android and iOS apps for OTP key creation and installation was simple.

Cheers
 Stefan

________________________________________
Von: Till Wegm?ller [toasterson at gmail.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Juli 2015 10:25
An: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Betreff: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Who is trying to break in ?

David Brodbeck schrieb am Wednesday 01 July 2015 11.53:42:
> Does anyone know of a 2-factor auth system for SSH?  Being able to use
> something like Google Authenticator would be nice.

There are Yubikey and DUO Security Modules available for PAM

There are also some generic Two factor Plugins available.

U2F: Industry Standard for Two Factor auth mostly pushed by oauth
OATH: NonGnu Project for Two Factor Tech
MOTP: Independent OpenSource Project

They should all theoretically work for OI, as PAM aims for Unix Compatibility.

Greetings Till

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From stefan.mueller-wilken at acando.de  Thu Jul  2 09:55:45 2015
From: stefan.mueller-wilken at acando.de (=?utf-8?B?U3RlZmFuIE3DvGxsZXItV2lsa2Vu?=)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 09:55:45 +0000
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Who is trying to break in ?
Message-ID: <80D191A7E0B2DF4688923CB3AA5C27DE55CCF01F@pham0030.resco.local>

Sorry, too much web security lately! I meant OATH, not OAUTH. See http://www.nongnu.org/oath-toolkit/ ...

Cheers
 Stefan

________________________________________
Von: Stefan M?ller-Wilken [stefan.mueller-wilken at acando.de]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Juli 2015 11:53
An: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Betreff: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Who is trying to break in ?

We're using OAUTH toolkit's pam modules on our OI boxes with very good results. There's android and iOS apps for OTP key creation and installation was simple.

Cheers
 Stefan

________________________________________
Von: Till Wegm?ller [toasterson at gmail.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Juli 2015 10:25
An: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Betreff: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Who is trying to break in ?

David Brodbeck schrieb am Wednesday 01 July 2015 11.53:42:
> Does anyone know of a 2-factor auth system for SSH?  Being able to use
> something like Google Authenticator would be nice.

There are Yubikey and DUO Security Modules available for PAM

There are also some generic Two factor Plugins available.

U2F: Industry Standard for Two Factor auth mostly pushed by oauth
OATH: NonGnu Project for Two Factor Tech
MOTP: Independent OpenSource Project

They should all theoretically work for OI, as PAM aims for Unix Compatibility.

Greetings Till

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http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss


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From jason at broken.net  Tue Jul  7 22:52:21 2015
From: jason at broken.net (jason matthews)
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2015 15:52:21 -0700
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] mask disk by wwn?
Message-ID: <559C5825.5040407@broken.net>


is there a mechanism to mask a disk by wwn or serial number in sd.conf 
or some other mechanism?

i periodically have misbehaving disks that jam up the host. it would be 
convenient to mask them from the OS/zfs so they are not interacted with 
post reboot. i am looking for a feature similar to masking a wwn in a 
fibre/sas channel switch for example.

does such a mechanism exist today in illumos?

j.


From openbabel at gmail.com  Thu Jul  9 10:11:12 2015
From: openbabel at gmail.com (Private openbabel)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 11:11:12 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] : open ssl security update
In-Reply-To: <CAHMq6q1T_4D+ZAYTSD+wtCd1UNcE_v7hYG_P5JKzUtaeOK95Jg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHMq6q1T_4D+ZAYTSD+wtCd1UNcE_v7hYG_P5JKzUtaeOK95Jg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <559E48C0.6090005@gmail.com>

Open SSL have released a security fix today. Is this something that is 
relevant to OiOS ? https://www.openssl.org/

Robert


From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com  Thu Jul  9 13:00:59 2015
From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?B?UHJlZHJhZyBaZcSNZXZpxIcgLSBVbml4IFN5c3RlbXMgQWRtaW5pc3RyYQ==?= =?UTF-8?B?dG9y?=)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 15:00:59 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [OmniOS-discuss] Fix to VirtualBox
 installer under OI/OmniOS
In-Reply-To: <fc3c9c2e214e.558ade1c@cos.ru>
References: <fc2d2cdb62e8.5506a24b@cos.ru>
	<fc70284b43a0.558ab8e1@cos.ru>	<558AA746.9020508@2e-systems.com>
	<fc3c9c2e214e.558ade1c@cos.ru>
Message-ID: <559E708B.3050509@2e-systems.com>

Hi Jim,

VB 5.0.0 is just released, and I have tried to patch vboxcontrol.sh - 
but got error during installation.

So, changed manually lines

  273                         errorprint "Failed to parse the Solaris 
kernel major version."
  274                         exit 1

to

  273                         return 0

and fixed pkginfo checksum. After that, installation went fine:


$ yes '' | pfexec pkgadd -d . -a ./autoresponse

The following packages are available:
   1  SUNWvbox     Oracle VM VirtualBox
                   (i386) 5.0.0,REV=2015.07.09.12.00.101573

Select package(s) you wish to process (or 'all' to process
all packages). (default: all) [?,??,q]:
Processing package instance <SUNWvbox> from 
</export/NoBackup/Virtualization/VirtualBox/Install>

Oracle VM VirtualBox(i386) 5.0.0,REV=2015.07.09.12.00.101573
Oracle Corporation
## Executing checkinstall script.
Checking package dependencies...
Done.
Waiting for services from previous installation to be removed.........
Warning!!! Some service(s) still appears to be present
## Processing package information.
## Processing system information.
    2 package pathnames are already properly installed.
## Verifying disk space requirements.
## Checking for conflicts with packages already installed.

Installing Oracle VM VirtualBox as <SUNWvbox>
...
...
...
## Executing postinstall script.
Checking for older bits...
Installing new ones...
Detected Solaris 2015.0 Version
Loading VirtualBox kernel modules...
    - Loaded: Host module
    - Loaded: NetAdapter module
    - Detected: Force-load file //etc/vboxinst_vboxflt.
    - Loaded: NetFilter (STREAMS) module
    - Detected: Force-load file //etc/vboxinst_vboxusb.
    - Loaded: USBMonitor module
    - Loaded: USB module
Configuring services...
    - Enabled: Zone access service
Installing MIME types and icons...
Installing Python bindings...
    - Installed: Bindings for Python 2.6
Updating the boot archive...

Installation of <SUNWvbox> was successful.


FYI!
With best regards.
Predrag Ze?evi?

On 06/24/15 04:43 PM, Jim Klimov wrote:
>
>   Hello Predrag,
>
>   Thanks for bringing that bit to my attention - now the same patch is reorganized (on GitHub) to suffice for both 4.3.28 and 5.0rc1 versions of vboxconfig.sh.
>
>   Jim
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>

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From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com  Thu Jul  9 13:09:04 2015
From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?B?UHJlZHJhZyBaZcSNZXZpxIcgLSBVbml4IFN5c3RlbXMgQWRtaW5pc3RyYQ==?= =?UTF-8?B?dG9y?=)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 15:09:04 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [OmniOS-discuss] Fix to VirtualBox
 installer under OI/OmniOS
In-Reply-To: <559E708B.3050509@2e-systems.com>
References: <fc2d2cdb62e8.5506a24b@cos.ru>	<fc70284b43a0.558ab8e1@cos.ru>	<558AA746.9020508@2e-systems.com>	<fc3c9c2e214e.558ade1c@cos.ru>
	<559E708B.3050509@2e-systems.com>
Message-ID: <559E7270.7040002@2e-systems.com>

Of course, meant vboxconfig.sh (not vboxcontrol.sh) :-)

On 07/ 9/15 03:00 PM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> VB 5.0.0 is just released, and I have tried to patch vboxcontrol.sh -
> but got error during installation.
>
> So, changed manually lines
>
>   273                         errorprint "Failed to parse the Solaris
> kernel major version."
>   274                         exit 1
>
> to
>
>   273                         return 0
>
> and fixed pkginfo checksum. After that, installation went fine:
>
>
> $ yes '' | pfexec pkgadd -d . -a ./autoresponse
>
> The following packages are available:
>    1  SUNWvbox     Oracle VM VirtualBox
>                    (i386) 5.0.0,REV=2015.07.09.12.00.101573
>
> Select package(s) you wish to process (or 'all' to process
> all packages). (default: all) [?,??,q]:
> Processing package instance <SUNWvbox> from
> </export/NoBackup/Virtualization/VirtualBox/Install>
>
> Oracle VM VirtualBox(i386) 5.0.0,REV=2015.07.09.12.00.101573
> Oracle Corporation
> ## Executing checkinstall script.
> Checking package dependencies...
> Done.
> Waiting for services from previous installation to be removed.........
> Warning!!! Some service(s) still appears to be present
> ## Processing package information.
> ## Processing system information.
>     2 package pathnames are already properly installed.
> ## Verifying disk space requirements.
> ## Checking for conflicts with packages already installed.
>
> Installing Oracle VM VirtualBox as <SUNWvbox>
> ...
> ...
> ...
> ## Executing postinstall script.
> Checking for older bits...
> Installing new ones...
> Detected Solaris 2015.0 Version
> Loading VirtualBox kernel modules...
>     - Loaded: Host module
>     - Loaded: NetAdapter module
>     - Detected: Force-load file //etc/vboxinst_vboxflt.
>     - Loaded: NetFilter (STREAMS) module
>     - Detected: Force-load file //etc/vboxinst_vboxusb.
>     - Loaded: USBMonitor module
>     - Loaded: USB module
> Configuring services...
>     - Enabled: Zone access service
> Installing MIME types and icons...
> Installing Python bindings...
>     - Installed: Bindings for Python 2.6
> Updating the boot archive...
>
> Installation of <SUNWvbox> was successful.
>
>
> FYI!
> With best regards.
> Predrag Ze?evi?
>
> On 06/24/15 04:43 PM, Jim Klimov wrote:
>>
>>   Hello Predrag,
>>
>>   Thanks for bringing that bit to my attention - now the same patch is
>> reorganized (on GitHub) to suffice for both 4.3.28 and 5.0rc1 versions
>> of vboxconfig.sh.
>>
>>   Jim
>> _______________________________________________
>> openindiana-discuss mailing list
>> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>>
>

-- 
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Technical Support Analyst
2e Systems GmbH

Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894
Mobile:    +49  174 3109 288,     Skype: predrag.zecevic
E-mail:    predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com

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                       65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany
Company registration: Amtsgericht K?nigstein (Germany), HRB 7303
Managing director:    Phil Douglas

http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly!


From stream at willows7.myzen.co.uk  Fri Jul 10 20:22:47 2015
From: stream at willows7.myzen.co.uk (russell)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 21:22:47 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Virtualbox on hipster
Message-ID: <55A02997.30103@willows7.myzen.co.uk>

Hi,

I just tried to uninstall VirtualBox 4.3.28 so I could install 
VirtualBox 5.0.0 but the uninstall failed because the kernel version was 
not correctly identified. VirtualBox was left in such a way that it was 
not possible to complete the uninstallation nor install the newer 
version. Unluckily I tried the uninstall in a backup boot environment.

$ uname -a
SunOS ts 5.11 illumos-77eb9dd i86pc i386 i86pc





From jimklimov at cos.ru  Sat Jul 11 05:22:02 2015
From: jimklimov at cos.ru (Jim Klimov)
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 07:22:02 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Virtualbox on hipster
In-Reply-To: <55A02997.30103@willows7.myzen.co.uk>
References: <55A02997.30103@willows7.myzen.co.uk>
Message-ID: <6D2BB451-8FE5-4DC0-A84F-3F560E56955D@cos.ru>

10 ???? 2015??. 22:22:47 CEST, russell <stream at willows7.myzen.co.uk> ?????:
>Hi,
>
>I just tried to uninstall VirtualBox 4.3.28 so I could install 
>VirtualBox 5.0.0 but the uninstall failed because the kernel version
>was 
>not correctly identified. VirtualBox was left in such a way that it was
>
>not possible to complete the uninstallation nor install the newer 
>version. Unluckily I tried the uninstall in a backup boot environment.
>
>$ uname -a
>SunOS ts 5.11 illumos-77eb9dd i86pc i386 i86pc
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>openindiana-discuss mailing list
>openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss

Did your existing installation use the original vboxconfig.sh or the one with my patches to identify certain illumos distros better (see my github and/or recent on-list discussions)?

Possibly you can install back the 4.3.28 (with patched script) and then uninstall it cleanly.

The other ways would be to dig in the guts of old pkg(svr4) metadata in /var/sadm/install/contents searching for SUNWvbox references to excise, and remove drivers following the code of pre-/post-remove scripts and vboxconfig.sh - I'd do that as a last resort.

Do your pools have autosnapshots? You might be able to rollback or clone your BE to a point before where you tried and failed to remove the package.

Jim
--
Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android


From minikola at gmail.com  Sat Jul 11 22:15:02 2015
From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M)
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 00:15:02 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What happened to VLC
Message-ID: <55A19566.2010400@gmail.com>

Some time ago, there were talking, like only some functions were making 
trouble to compile working VLC.
Since then, nothing happened and we still do not have working VLC in the 
Hipster repository.

Anyone knows what to do and where do we stand with working VLC?

I want to play some video and audio sometimes and I can not now,
since even old VLC in SFE and SFE-encumbered could not work in Hipster 
as I understand and needs recompilation.

As I remember, there is a problem with some libraries changed places in 
Hipster 1025,
  that forces changes in SFE, therefore requires SFE fork/separate SFE 
for Hipster.

Any thougths how to proceed?



From aurelien.larcher at gmail.com  Sun Jul 12 23:18:59 2015
From: aurelien.larcher at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien_Larcher?=)
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 01:18:59 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What happened to VLC
In-Reply-To: <55A19566.2010400@gmail.com>
References: <55A19566.2010400@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHMq6q0YC-OtBZUc=SWff0mnK9_dkmUznpOZr73AV-D28+ezeQ@mail.gmail.com>

I guess the most sensible thing would be to have an encumbered userland.
If everyone contributes with a component Makefile the job can be done
really fast.
I started with ffmpeg and some libraries and it is dead easy to compile:
most of the work consist of writing the Makefile.
VLC was more tricky due to the use of strerror_l which required some
reading.

Should we start a "adopt a component" campaign ?
Best,

Aurelien

On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 12:15 AM, Nikola M <minikola at gmail.com> wrote:

> Some time ago, there were talking, like only some functions were making
> trouble to compile working VLC.
> Since then, nothing happened and we still do not have working VLC in the
> Hipster repository.
>
> Anyone knows what to do and where do we stand with working VLC?
>
> I want to play some video and audio sometimes and I can not now,
> since even old VLC in SFE and SFE-encumbered could not work in Hipster as
> I understand and needs recompilation.
>
> As I remember, there is a problem with some libraries changed places in
> Hipster 1025,
>  that forces changes in SFE, therefore requires SFE fork/separate SFE for
> Hipster.
>
> Any thougths how to proceed?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>



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From aurelien.larcher at gmail.com  Mon Jul 13 16:15:25 2015
From: aurelien.larcher at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien_Larcher?=)
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 18:15:25 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What happened to VLC
In-Reply-To: <CAHMq6q0YC-OtBZUc=SWff0mnK9_dkmUznpOZr73AV-D28+ezeQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <55A19566.2010400@gmail.com>
	<CAHMq6q0YC-OtBZUc=SWff0mnK9_dkmUznpOZr73AV-D28+ezeQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHMq6q0D0b9thVPzweLyx9SqPQB1+j07fDUAw34s7oAAc+c4aA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
Find below a preliminary list of components to be added to an encumbered
Hipster repository.

http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Multimedia

Best regards,

Aurelien

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Aur?lien Larcher <
aurelien.larcher at gmail.com> wrote:

> I guess the most sensible thing would be to have an encumbered userland.
> If everyone contributes with a component Makefile the job can be done
> really fast.
> I started with ffmpeg and some libraries and it is dead easy to compile:
> most of the work consist of writing the Makefile.
> VLC was more tricky due to the use of strerror_l which required some
> reading.
>
> Should we start a "adopt a component" campaign ?
> Best,
>
> Aurelien
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 12:15 AM, Nikola M <minikola at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Some time ago, there were talking, like only some functions were making
>> trouble to compile working VLC.
>> Since then, nothing happened and we still do not have working VLC in the
>> Hipster repository.
>>
>> Anyone knows what to do and where do we stand with working VLC?
>>
>> I want to play some video and audio sometimes and I can not now,
>> since even old VLC in SFE and SFE-encumbered could not work in Hipster as
>> I understand and needs recompilation.
>>
>> As I remember, there is a problem with some libraries changed places in
>> Hipster 1025,
>>  that forces changes in SFE, therefore requires SFE fork/separate SFE for
>> Hipster.
>>
>> Any thougths how to proceed?
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> openindiana-discuss mailing list
>> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Communication
> Work: +46 (0) 8 790 71 42 | Lindstedtsv?gen 5, Plan 4, 100 44 Stockholm,
> SWEDEN
>
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>



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From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com  Tue Jul 14 07:31:44 2015
From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?B?UHJlZHJhZyBaZcSNZXZpxIcgLSBVbml4IFN5c3RlbXMgQWRtaW5pc3RyYQ==?= =?UTF-8?B?dG9y?=)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 09:31:44 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] /hipster: rsyslog question
Message-ID: <55A4BAE0.3040704@2e-systems.com>

Hi all,

I have enabled rsyslog service (instead of default system-log):

$ svcs system-log
STATE          STIME    FMRI
disabled        8:48:36 svc:/system/system-log:default
online          8:52:13 svc:/system/system-log:rsyslog

and I am faced with strange error during reboot! From 
/var/svc/log/system-system-log:rsyslog.log:

[ Jul 14 08:48:37 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/rsyslog"). ]
savecore: open("/dev/dump"): No such file or directory
[ Jul 14 08:48:42 Method "start" exited with status 0. ]
[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Stopping because process dumped core. ]
[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Executing stop method (:kill). ]
[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/rsyslog"). ]
savecore: open("/dev/dump"): No such file or directory
[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Method "start" exited with status 0. ]
[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Stopping because process dumped core. ]
[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Executing stop method (:kill). ]
[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/rsyslog"). ]
savecore: open("/dev/dump"): No such file or directory
[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Method "start" exited with status 0. ]
[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Stopping because process dumped core. ]
[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Executing stop method (:kill). ]
[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/rsyslog"). ]
savecore: open("/dev/dump"): No such file or directory
[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Method "start" exited with status 0. ]
[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Stopping because process dumped core. ]
[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Executing stop method (:kill). ]
[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Restarting too quickly, changing state to maintenance. ]

So, it went to maintenance, because /dev/dump link wasn't created BEFORE 
rsyslog is started (it is managed by svc:/system/dumpadm:default 
service, right?). From /var/svc/log/system-dumpadm:default.log we see:

[ Jul 14 08:48:39 Enabled. ]
[ Jul 14 08:49:41 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/svc-dumpadm"). ]
[ Jul 14 08:49:42 Method "start" exited with status 0. ]
savecore: bad magic number 6db6db6d


That dumpadm was started AFTER 1st attempt of rsyslog... Also, sym-link 
confirmes that:

$ ls -alL /dev/dump
crw-rw---- 1 root sys 281, 0 Jul 14 08:52 /dev/dump
$ ls -al /dev/dump
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Nov 21  2013 /dev/dump -> 
../devices/pseudo/dump at 0:dump
$ ls -al /devices/pseudo/dump at 0:dump
crw-rw---- 1 root sys 281, 0 Jul 14 08:52 /devices/pseudo/dump at 0:dump

So, how I can make either that dumpadm runs BEFORE rsyslog or rsyslog 
AFTER dumpadm?

Any ideas?

With best regards.

-- 
Predrag Ze?evi?
Technical Support Analyst
2e Systems GmbH

Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894
Mobile:    +49  174 3109 288,     Skype: predrag.zecevic
E-mail:    predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com

Headquarter:          2e Systems GmbH, K?nigsteiner Str. 87,
                       65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany
Company registration: Amtsgericht K?nigstein (Germany), HRB 7303
Managing director:    Phil Douglas

http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly!


From alp at rsu.ru  Tue Jul 14 10:30:50 2015
From: alp at rsu.ru (Alexander Pyhalov)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:30:50 +0300
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] /hipster: rsyslog question
In-Reply-To: <55A4BAE0.3040704@2e-systems.com>
References: <55A4BAE0.3040704@2e-systems.com>
Message-ID: <55A4E4DA.1000903@rsu.ru>

On 07/14/2015 10:31, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote:
> Hi all,
> That dumpadm was started AFTER 1st attempt of rsyslog... Also, sym-link
> confirmes that:
>
> $ ls -alL /dev/dump
> crw-rw---- 1 root sys 281, 0 Jul 14 08:52 /dev/dump
> $ ls -al /dev/dump
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Nov 21  2013 /dev/dump ->
> ../devices/pseudo/dump at 0:dump
> $ ls -al /devices/pseudo/dump at 0:dump
> crw-rw---- 1 root sys 281, 0 Jul 14 08:52 /devices/pseudo/dump at 0:dump
>
> So, how I can make either that dumpadm runs BEFORE rsyslog or rsyslog
> AFTER dumpadm?
>
> Any ideas?

Hi. Try to look at syslog dependencies. It seems some of them should be 
added to rsyslog.
-- 
Best regards,
Alexander Pyhalov,
system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department


From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com  Tue Jul 14 11:47:17 2015
From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?B?UHJlZHJhZyBaZcSNZXZpxIcgLSBVbml4IFN5c3RlbXMgQWRtaW5pc3RyYQ==?= =?UTF-8?B?dG9y?=)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:47:17 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] /hipster: rsyslog question
In-Reply-To: <55A4E4DA.1000903@rsu.ru>
References: <55A4BAE0.3040704@2e-systems.com> <55A4E4DA.1000903@rsu.ru>
Message-ID: <55A4F6C5.8070507@2e-systems.com>

On 07/14/15 12:30 PM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:
> On 07/14/2015 10:31, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> That dumpadm was started AFTER 1st attempt of rsyslog... Also, sym-link
>> confirmes that:
>>
>> $ ls -alL /dev/dump
>> crw-rw---- 1 root sys 281, 0 Jul 14 08:52 /dev/dump
>> $ ls -al /dev/dump
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Nov 21  2013 /dev/dump ->
>> ../devices/pseudo/dump at 0:dump
>> $ ls -al /devices/pseudo/dump at 0:dump
>> crw-rw---- 1 root sys 281, 0 Jul 14 08:52 /devices/pseudo/dump at 0:dump
>>
>> So, how I can make either that dumpadm runs BEFORE rsyslog or rsyslog
>> AFTER dumpadm?
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> Hi. Try to look at syslog dependencies. It seems some of them should be
> added to rsyslog.


Hi Alexander,

look like that was problem (attached modified version here - changes 
merged from /lib/svc/manifest/system/system-log.xml - only dependency 
sections):

$ pfexec svccfg validate manifest-rsyslog.xml
[no error]
$ pfexec svccfg import manifest-rsyslog.xml
[no error]
$ pfexec svcadm refresh rsyslog
$ pfexec svcadm restart rsyslog
[no error]

$ tail -10 $(svcs -L rsyslog)
[ Jul 14 08:52:13 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/rsyslog"). ]
[ Jul 14 08:52:13 Method "start" exited with status 0. ]
[ Jul 14 12:57:22 Rereading configuration. ]
[ Jul 14 12:57:23 Executing refresh method (:kill). ]
[ Jul 14 12:57:33 Rereading configuration. ]
[ Jul 14 12:57:33 Executing refresh method (:kill). ]
[ Jul 14 12:57:38 Stopping because service restarting. ]
[ Jul 14 12:57:38 Executing stop method (:kill). ]
[ Jul 14 12:57:38 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/rsyslog"). ]
[ Jul 14 12:57:38 Method "start" exited with status 0. ]

Verifying changes:
$ pfexec svccfg export system/system-log

Will wait until next reboot, for final confirmation.

Thank you for tip.
With best regards.

-- 
Predrag Ze?evi?
Technical Support Analyst
2e Systems GmbH

Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894
Mobile:    +49  174 3109 288,     Skype: predrag.zecevic
E-mail:    predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com

Headquarter:          2e Systems GmbH, K?nigsteiner Str. 87,
                       65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany
Company registration: Amtsgericht K?nigstein (Germany), HRB 7303
Managing director:    Phil Douglas

http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly!

From jimklimov at cos.ru  Tue Jul 14 11:47:23 2015
From: jimklimov at cos.ru (Jim Klimov)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:47:23 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] /hipster: rsyslog question
In-Reply-To: <55A4BAE0.3040704@2e-systems.com>
References: <55A4BAE0.3040704@2e-systems.com>
Message-ID: <CA516037-4BE6-449F-894C-0D7607A25BD7@cos.ru>

14 ???? 2015??. 9:31:44 CEST, "Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator" <predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com> ?????:
>Hi all,
>
>I have enabled rsyslog service (instead of default system-log):
>
>$ svcs system-log
>STATE          STIME    FMRI
>disabled        8:48:36 svc:/system/system-log:default
>online          8:52:13 svc:/system/system-log:rsyslog
>
>and I am faced with strange error during reboot! From 
>/var/svc/log/system-system-log:rsyslog.log:
>
>[ Jul 14 08:48:37 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/rsyslog"). ]
>savecore: open("/dev/dump"): No such file or directory
>[ Jul 14 08:48:42 Method "start" exited with status 0. ]
>[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Stopping because process dumped core. ]
>[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Executing stop method (:kill). ]
>[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/rsyslog"). ]
>savecore: open("/dev/dump"): No such file or directory
>[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Method "start" exited with status 0. ]
>[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Stopping because process dumped core. ]
>[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Executing stop method (:kill). ]
>[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/rsyslog"). ]
>savecore: open("/dev/dump"): No such file or directory
>[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Method "start" exited with status 0. ]
>[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Stopping because process dumped core. ]
>[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Executing stop method (:kill). ]
>[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/rsyslog"). ]
>savecore: open("/dev/dump"): No such file or directory
>[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Method "start" exited with status 0. ]
>[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Stopping because process dumped core. ]
>[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Executing stop method (:kill). ]
>[ Jul 14 08:48:43 Restarting too quickly, changing state to
>maintenance. ]
>
>So, it went to maintenance, because /dev/dump link wasn't created
>BEFORE 
>rsyslog is started (it is managed by svc:/system/dumpadm:default 
>service, right?). From /var/svc/log/system-dumpadm:default.log we see:
>
>[ Jul 14 08:48:39 Enabled. ]
>[ Jul 14 08:49:41 Executing start method
>("/lib/svc/method/svc-dumpadm"). ]
>[ Jul 14 08:49:42 Method "start" exited with status 0. ]
>savecore: bad magic number 6db6db6d
>
>
>That dumpadm was started AFTER 1st attempt of rsyslog... Also, sym-link
>
>confirmes that:
>
>$ ls -alL /dev/dump
>crw-rw---- 1 root sys 281, 0 Jul 14 08:52 /dev/dump
>$ ls -al /dev/dump
>lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Nov 21  2013 /dev/dump -> 
>../devices/pseudo/dump at 0:dump
>$ ls -al /devices/pseudo/dump at 0:dump
>crw-rw---- 1 root sys 281, 0 Jul 14 08:52 /devices/pseudo/dump at 0:dump
>
>So, how I can make either that dumpadm runs BEFORE rsyslog or rsyslog 
>AFTER dumpadm?
>
>Any ideas?
>
>With best regards.
>
>-- 
>Predrag Ze?evi?
>Technical Support Analyst
>2e Systems GmbH
>
>Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894
>Mobile:    +49  174 3109 288,     Skype: predrag.zecevic
>E-mail:    predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com
>
>Headquarter:          2e Systems GmbH, K?nigsteiner Str. 87,
>                       65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany
>Company registration: Amtsgericht K?nigstein (Germany), HRB 7303
>Managing director:    Phil Douglas
>
>http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly!
>
>_______________________________________________
>openindiana-discuss mailing list
>openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss

Run 'svccfg -s rsyslog editprop' and add the dependency entries similar to those where services depend on network, or fs-local, or somesuch.
Then svcadm refresh rsyslog.

HTH, Jim
--
Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android


From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com  Tue Jul 14 11:50:00 2015
From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?B?UHJlZHJhZyBaZcSNZXZpxIcgLSBVbml4IFN5c3RlbXMgQWRtaW5pc3RyYQ==?= =?UTF-8?B?dG9y?=)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:50:00 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] /hipster: rsyslog question
In-Reply-To: <55A4F6C5.8070507@2e-systems.com>
References: <55A4BAE0.3040704@2e-systems.com> <55A4E4DA.1000903@rsu.ru>
	<55A4F6C5.8070507@2e-systems.com>
Message-ID: <55A4F768.8020707@2e-systems.com>


On 07/14/15 01:47 PM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote:
> On 07/14/15 12:30 PM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:
>> On 07/14/2015 10:31, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> That dumpadm was started AFTER 1st attempt of rsyslog... Also, sym-link
>>> confirmes that:
>>>
>>> $ ls -alL /dev/dump
>>> crw-rw---- 1 root sys 281, 0 Jul 14 08:52 /dev/dump
>>> $ ls -al /dev/dump
>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Nov 21  2013 /dev/dump ->
>>> ../devices/pseudo/dump at 0:dump
>>> $ ls -al /devices/pseudo/dump at 0:dump
>>> crw-rw---- 1 root sys 281, 0 Jul 14 08:52 /devices/pseudo/dump at 0:dump
>>>
>>> So, how I can make either that dumpadm runs BEFORE rsyslog or rsyslog
>>> AFTER dumpadm?
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Hi. Try to look at syslog dependencies. It seems some of them should be
>> added to rsyslog.
>
>
> Hi Alexander,
>
> look like that was problem (attached modified version here - changes
> merged from /lib/svc/manifest/system/system-log.xml - only dependency
> sections):
>
> $ pfexec svccfg validate manifest-rsyslog.xml
> [no error]
> $ pfexec svccfg import manifest-rsyslog.xml
> [no error]
> $ pfexec svcadm refresh rsyslog
> $ pfexec svcadm restart rsyslog
> [no error]
>
> $ tail -10 $(svcs -L rsyslog)
> [ Jul 14 08:52:13 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/rsyslog"). ]
> [ Jul 14 08:52:13 Method "start" exited with status 0. ]
> [ Jul 14 12:57:22 Rereading configuration. ]
> [ Jul 14 12:57:23 Executing refresh method (:kill). ]
> [ Jul 14 12:57:33 Rereading configuration. ]
> [ Jul 14 12:57:33 Executing refresh method (:kill). ]
> [ Jul 14 12:57:38 Stopping because service restarting. ]
> [ Jul 14 12:57:38 Executing stop method (:kill). ]
> [ Jul 14 12:57:38 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/rsyslog"). ]
> [ Jul 14 12:57:38 Method "start" exited with status 0. ]
>
> Verifying changes:
> $ pfexec svccfg export system/system-log
>
> Will wait until next reboot, for final confirmation.
>
> Thank you for tip.
> With best regards.
>

Attachment was removed, so:
$ pfexec svccfg export system/system-log
<?xml version='1.0'?>
<!DOCTYPE service_bundle SYSTEM 
'/usr/share/lib/xml/dtd/service_bundle.dtd.1'>
<service_bundle type='manifest' name='export'>
   <service name='system/system-log' type='service' version='0'>
     <create_default_instance enabled='false'/>
     <instance name='rsyslog' enabled='true'>
       <dependency name='milestone' grouping='require_all' 
restart_on='none' type='service'>
         <service_fmri value='svc:/milestone/sysconfig'/>
       </dependency>
       <dependency name='filesystem' grouping='require_all' 
restart_on='none' type='service'>
         <service_fmri value='svc:/system/filesystem/local'/>
       </dependency>
       <dependency name='autofs' grouping='optional_all' 
restart_on='none' type='service'>
         <service_fmri value='svc:/system/filesystem/autofs'/>
       </dependency>
       <dependency name='name-services' grouping='require_all' 
restart_on='none' type='service'>
         <service_fmri value='svc:/milestone/name-services'/>
       </dependency>
       <dependent name='system-log_single-user' restart_on='none' 
grouping='optional_all'>
         <service_fmri value='svc:/milestone/multi-user'/>
       </dependent>
       <exec_method name='start' type='method' 
exec='/lib/svc/method/rsyslog' timeout_seconds='600'/>
       <exec_method name='stop' type='method' exec=':kill' 
timeout_seconds='60'/>
       <exec_method name='refresh' type='method' exec=':kill -HUP' 
timeout_seconds='60'/>
       <template>
         <common_name>
           <loctext xml:lang='C'>reliable and extended system log 
daemon</loctext>
         </common_name>
         <documentation>
           <manpage title='rsyslogd' section='1M' manpath='/usr/share/man'/>
         </documentation>
       </template>
     </instance>
   </service>
</service_bundle>

-- 
Predrag Ze?evi?
Technical Support Analyst
2e Systems GmbH

Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894
Mobile:    +49  174 3109 288,     Skype: predrag.zecevic
E-mail:    predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com

Headquarter:          2e Systems GmbH, K?nigsteiner Str. 87,
                       65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany
Company registration: Amtsgericht K?nigstein (Germany), HRB 7303
Managing director:    Phil Douglas

http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly!


From mike-romberg at comcast.net  Tue Jul 14 18:17:50 2015
From: mike-romberg at comcast.net (mike-romberg at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 12:17:50 -0600
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fixing DHCP networking
Message-ID: <21925.21070.174686.592913@lrd.home.lan>


  Hi, I'm attempting to get as much of this running on openindiana as
I can:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/xosview/

  So, far I have been able to get openindiana to run and install using
QEMU/KVM on my fedora machine.  But the networking fails to start.  I
think the trouble is on the openindiana end as every other OS I've
been porting xosview to (NetBSD, FreeBSD, Gnu Hurd) has just worked
right out of the box using DHCP with no interaction at all on my part.

  Does anyone happen to know a special way to kick, poke, prod or
otherwise persuade openindiana to bring up the ethernet interface and
configure it via DHCP?  I've googled and found some instructions
(creating things like /etc/nodename etc).  But none of the tips I
found worked for me.

Thanks,

Mike




From t12nslookup at gmail.com  Tue Jul 14 18:41:07 2015
From: t12nslookup at gmail.com (Jonathan Adams)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 19:41:07 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fixing DHCP networking
In-Reply-To: <21925.21070.174686.592913@lrd.home.lan>
References: <21925.21070.174686.592913@lrd.home.lan>
Message-ID: <CAKr4wiRbB5NhZop4eNGUkd5nUSO0nZb03Cba82Uq7Trrwx552Q@mail.gmail.com>

http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Using+NWAM+to+configure+network+interfaces

Have a look at "dladm show-link" as well to see what networking exists.

Jon
On 14 Jul 2015 19:18, <mike-romberg at comcast.net> wrote:

>
>   Hi, I'm attempting to get as much of this running on openindiana as
> I can:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/xosview/
>
>   So, far I have been able to get openindiana to run and install using
> QEMU/KVM on my fedora machine.  But the networking fails to start.  I
> think the trouble is on the openindiana end as every other OS I've
> been porting xosview to (NetBSD, FreeBSD, Gnu Hurd) has just worked
> right out of the box using DHCP with no interaction at all on my part.
>
>   Does anyone happen to know a special way to kick, poke, prod or
> otherwise persuade openindiana to bring up the ethernet interface and
> configure it via DHCP?  I've googled and found some instructions
> (creating things like /etc/nodename etc).  But none of the tips I
> found worked for me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>

From mike-romberg at comcast.net  Tue Jul 14 19:41:36 2015
From: mike-romberg at comcast.net (mike-romberg at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:41:36 -0600
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fixing DHCP networking
In-Reply-To: <CAKr4wiRbB5NhZop4eNGUkd5nUSO0nZb03Cba82Uq7Trrwx552Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <21925.21070.174686.592913@lrd.home.lan>
	<CAKr4wiRbB5NhZop4eNGUkd5nUSO0nZb03Cba82Uq7Trrwx552Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <21925.26096.423297.144221@lrd.home.lan>

>>>>> " " == Jonathan Adams <t12nslookup at gmail.com> writes:

     > http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Using+NWAM+to+configure+network+interfaces
     > Have a look at "dladm show-link" as well to see what networking
     > exists.

  Yea.  I tried out that nwam wiki page.  The examples found there did
not seem to work for me the way they look on that page.  Maybe I fat
fingered something.  There seems no way for me to cut/paste to the
console (running in QEMU).  So, doing all those configure tweaks is
tricky (compounded by the fact that I have no solars admin
experience).  I'm setting up another image to try again.

  I do remember that the ethernet interface is there and it does show
up when ifconfig is run.  There is also some sort of GUI widget on the
desktop that reports that it failed to get a DHCP address.  So, I
think there is some kinda automatic configuration setup and running
(using the install from here: http://openindiana.org/download/#live).
But for some reason the DHCP client on openindiana is failing.

Mike

  


From t12nslookup at gmail.com  Tue Jul 14 20:00:32 2015
From: t12nslookup at gmail.com (Jonathan Adams)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 21:00:32 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fixing DHCP networking
In-Reply-To: <21925.26096.423297.144221@lrd.home.lan>
References: <21925.21070.174686.592913@lrd.home.lan>
	<CAKr4wiRbB5NhZop4eNGUkd5nUSO0nZb03Cba82Uq7Trrwx552Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<21925.26096.423297.144221@lrd.home.lan>
Message-ID: <CAKr4wiR4DfBmEnQVU0XEHS0urnQMoJJfWHEVa55o8PFFebheoA@mail.gmail.com>

Okay, you could try doing it the old fashioned way.
svcadm disable nwam
svcadm enable physical:default
ifconfig -a plumb
ifconfig <interface from ifconfig> dhcp

If that doesn't work, my guess is you would be better off specifying a
different type of network interface in your qemu setup.

Jon
?
On 14 Jul 2015 20:42, <mike-romberg at comcast.net> wrote:

> >>>>> " " == Jonathan Adams <t12nslookup at gmail.com> writes:
>
>      >
> http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Using+NWAM+to+configure+network+interfaces
>      > Have a look at "dladm show-link" as well to see what networking
>      > exists.
>
>   Yea.  I tried out that nwam wiki page.  The examples found there did
> not seem to work for me the way they look on that page.  Maybe I fat
> fingered something.  There seems no way for me to cut/paste to the
> console (running in QEMU).  So, doing all those configure tweaks is
> tricky (compounded by the fact that I have no solars admin
> experience).  I'm setting up another image to try again.
>
>   I do remember that the ethernet interface is there and it does show
> up when ifconfig is run.  There is also some sort of GUI widget on the
> desktop that reports that it failed to get a DHCP address.  So, I
> think there is some kinda automatic configuration setup and running
> (using the install from here: http://openindiana.org/download/#live).
> But for some reason the DHCP client on openindiana is failing.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>

From mike-romberg at comcast.net  Tue Jul 14 20:12:10 2015
From: mike-romberg at comcast.net (mike-romberg at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 14:12:10 -0600
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fixing DHCP networking
In-Reply-To: <CAKr4wiR4DfBmEnQVU0XEHS0urnQMoJJfWHEVa55o8PFFebheoA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <21925.21070.174686.592913@lrd.home.lan>
	<CAKr4wiRbB5NhZop4eNGUkd5nUSO0nZb03Cba82Uq7Trrwx552Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<21925.26096.423297.144221@lrd.home.lan>
	<CAKr4wiR4DfBmEnQVU0XEHS0urnQMoJJfWHEVa55o8PFFebheoA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <21925.27930.104497.888009@lrd.home.lan>

>>>>> " " == Jonathan Adams <t12nslookup at gmail.com> writes:

     > Okay, you could try doing it the old fashioned way.

     > svcadm disable nwam
     > svcadm enable physical:default
     > ifconfig -a plumb
     > ifconfig <interface from ifconfig> dhcp

 Thank you very much!  That right there is exactly the kind of
simple minded easy to type sorta thing I was looking for :).  I'll try it
shortly and report back (56% done downloading...)

     > If that doesn't work, my guess is you would be better off
     > specifying a different type of network interface in your qemu
     > setup.

  I think the kernel recognizes the interface.  So, it is just the
dhcp client failing for some reason.  I'll be back with exact details...

Mike


From toasterson at gmail.com  Tue Jul 14 20:29:55 2015
From: toasterson at gmail.com (Till =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wegm=FCller?=)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 22:29:55 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fixing DHCP networking
In-Reply-To: <21925.27930.104497.888009@lrd.home.lan>
References: <21925.21070.174686.592913@lrd.home.lan>
	<CAKr4wiR4DfBmEnQVU0XEHS0urnQMoJJfWHEVa55o8PFFebheoA@mail.gmail.com>
	<21925.27930.104497.888009@lrd.home.lan>
Message-ID: <4536234.pG5iAhvyZc@hephaistos.home.local>

In my attempts in QEMU/KVM it turned out to be the NAT interface of libvirt 
was the problem. I tried with fixed address and DHCP but it just would not 
work.

The only way I was able to run OI with KVM/libvirt was with a bridged 
interface.

There was also a report a while back that VMware ESX had problems with OI not 
wanting to see the network when coupled to a vswitch.

My guess is that OI doesn't like the iptables NAT network hybrid thingies that 
libvirt uses per default. 

On Tuesday 14 July 2015 14.12:10 mike-romberg at comcast.net wrote:
> >>>>> " " == Jonathan Adams <t12nslookup at gmail.com> writes:
>      > Okay, you could try doing it the old fashioned way.
>      > 
>      > svcadm disable nwam
>      > svcadm enable physical:default
>      > ifconfig -a plumb
>      > ifconfig <interface from ifconfig> dhcp
> 
>  Thank you very much!  That right there is exactly the kind of
> simple minded easy to type sorta thing I was looking for :).  I'll try it
> shortly and report back (56% done downloading...)
> 
>      > If that doesn't work, my guess is you would be better off
>      > specifying a different type of network interface in your qemu
>      > setup.
> 
>   I think the kernel recognizes the interface.  So, it is just the
> dhcp client failing for some reason.  I'll be back with exact details...
> 
> Mike
> 
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss



From carlsonj at workingcode.com  Tue Jul 14 21:01:29 2015
From: carlsonj at workingcode.com (James Carlson)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 17:01:29 -0400
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fixing DHCP networking
In-Reply-To: <21925.27930.104497.888009@lrd.home.lan>
References: <21925.21070.174686.592913@lrd.home.lan>	<CAKr4wiRbB5NhZop4eNGUkd5nUSO0nZb03Cba82Uq7Trrwx552Q@mail.gmail.com>	<21925.26096.423297.144221@lrd.home.lan>	<CAKr4wiR4DfBmEnQVU0XEHS0urnQMoJJfWHEVa55o8PFFebheoA@mail.gmail.com>
	<21925.27930.104497.888009@lrd.home.lan>
Message-ID: <55A578A9.1070301@workingcode.com>

On 07/14/15 16:12, mike-romberg at comcast.net wrote:
>>>>>> " " == Jonathan Adams <t12nslookup at gmail.com> writes:
> 
>      > Okay, you could try doing it the old fashioned way.
> 
>      > svcadm disable nwam
>      > svcadm enable physical:default
>      > ifconfig -a plumb
>      > ifconfig <interface from ifconfig> dhcp
> 
>  Thank you very much!  That right there is exactly the kind of
> simple minded easy to type sorta thing I was looking for :).  I'll try it
> shortly and report back (56% done downloading...)

Nit: that last command should be "dhcp start".  Take a look at the
ifconfig(1M) description for "auto-dhcp".

Using the old-style interface, those commands would be made "permanent"
(i.e., effective at boot time) by doing this:

	touch /etc/hostname.$IF
	touch /etc/dhcp.$IF

where "$IF" is the name of the interface in question (e.g., e1000g0).

-- 
James Carlson         42.703N 71.076W         <carlsonj at workingcode.com>


From jimklimov at cos.ru  Tue Jul 14 21:14:41 2015
From: jimklimov at cos.ru (Jim Klimov)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 23:14:41 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fixing DHCP networking
In-Reply-To: <21925.26096.423297.144221@lrd.home.lan>
References: <21925.21070.174686.592913@lrd.home.lan>
	<CAKr4wiRbB5NhZop4eNGUkd5nUSO0nZb03Cba82Uq7Trrwx552Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<21925.26096.423297.144221@lrd.home.lan>
Message-ID: <7E49B9F4-A06B-4F4B-B285-AA141294DA7F@cos.ru>

14 ???? 2015??. 21:41:36 CEST, mike-romberg at comcast.net ?????:
>>>>>> " " == Jonathan Adams <t12nslookup at gmail.com> writes:
>
>>
>http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Using+NWAM+to+configure+network+interfaces
>     > Have a look at "dladm show-link" as well to see what networking
>     > exists.
>
>  Yea.  I tried out that nwam wiki page.  The examples found there did
>not seem to work for me the way they look on that page.  Maybe I fat
>fingered something.  There seems no way for me to cut/paste to the
>console (running in QEMU).  So, doing all those configure tweaks is
>tricky (compounded by the fact that I have no solars admin
>experience).  I'm setting up another image to try again.
>
>  I do remember that the ethernet interface is there and it does show
>up when ifconfig is run.  There is also some sort of GUI widget on the
>desktop that reports that it failed to get a DHCP address.  So, I
>think there is some kinda automatic configuration setup and running
>(using the install from here: http://openindiana.org/download/#live).
>But for some reason the DHCP client on openindiana is failing.
>
>Mike
>
>  
>
>_______________________________________________
>openindiana-discuss mailing list
>openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss

Consider adding a serial console to your vm and socat/screen/minicom to it. I must look at a computer to be sure, but IIRC the illumos kernel arguments to add would be -B console=ttya and default speed would be 9600-8-n-1

If it works, you can copypaste instructions :)
HTH,
Jim

--
Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android


From mike-romberg at comcast.net  Tue Jul 14 21:25:58 2015
From: mike-romberg at comcast.net (mike-romberg at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 15:25:58 -0600
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fixing DHCP networking
In-Reply-To: <55A578A9.1070301@workingcode.com>
References: <21925.21070.174686.592913@lrd.home.lan>
	<CAKr4wiRbB5NhZop4eNGUkd5nUSO0nZb03Cba82Uq7Trrwx552Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<21925.26096.423297.144221@lrd.home.lan>
	<CAKr4wiR4DfBmEnQVU0XEHS0urnQMoJJfWHEVa55o8PFFebheoA@mail.gmail.com>
	<21925.27930.104497.888009@lrd.home.lan>
	<55A578A9.1070301@workingcode.com>
Message-ID: <21925.32358.212886.346548@lrd.home.lan>

>>>>> " " == James Carlson <carlsonj at workingcode.com> writes:

[...]
     > Nit: that last command should be "dhcp start".

svcadm disable nwam
svcadm enable physical:default
ifconfig -a plumb
ifconfig e1000g0 dhcp start                                                   ifconfig: e1000g0: wait	timed out, operation still pending... 

  Is there some location the dhcp client may be logging to?  Or can I
just use some variant of ifconfig and route to setup a static ip
address?  I do know the IPs of the virtual network/router.

Thanks again,

Mike


From t12nslookup at gmail.com  Tue Jul 14 21:41:24 2015
From: t12nslookup at gmail.com (Jonathan Adams)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 22:41:24 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fixing DHCP networking
In-Reply-To: <21925.32358.212886.346548@lrd.home.lan>
References: <21925.21070.174686.592913@lrd.home.lan>
	<CAKr4wiRbB5NhZop4eNGUkd5nUSO0nZb03Cba82Uq7Trrwx552Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<21925.26096.423297.144221@lrd.home.lan>
	<CAKr4wiR4DfBmEnQVU0XEHS0urnQMoJJfWHEVa55o8PFFebheoA@mail.gmail.com>
	<21925.27930.104497.888009@lrd.home.lan>
	<55A578A9.1070301@workingcode.com>
	<21925.32358.212886.346548@lrd.home.lan>
Message-ID: <CAKr4wiTPGmgJyTFB5SUWLUX1D6w7qFVsOV1wRQfsjZvLwJ+z3Q@mail.gmail.com>

Solaris interfaces are the easiest to set up of all systems I have to use.
ifconfig <interface> <up address> netmask <netmask> up

(when in physical:default mode)

Or you can use ipadm if you're brave ?

ipadm create-addr -T static -a <address>/<bitmask> <interface>/v4

E.g. ipadm create-addr -T static -a 10.99.99.23/24 bnx0/v4

ipadm will last through a reboot, without the need for files in /etc.

route -p will add a persistent route that also lasts a reboot.

Jon
On 14 Jul 2015 22:26, <mike-romberg at comcast.net> wrote:

> >>>>> " " == James Carlson <carlsonj at workingcode.com> writes:
>
> [...]
>      > Nit: that last command should be "dhcp start".
>
> svcadm disable nwam
> svcadm enable physical:default
> ifconfig -a plumb
> ifconfig e1000g0 dhcp start
>    ifconfig: e1000g0: wait   timed out, operation still pending...
>
>   Is there some location the dhcp client may be logging to?  Or can I
> just use some variant of ifconfig and route to setup a static ip
> address?  I do know the IPs of the virtual network/router.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Mike
>
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>

From carlsonj at workingcode.com  Wed Jul 15 11:22:31 2015
From: carlsonj at workingcode.com (James Carlson)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 07:22:31 -0400
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fixing DHCP networking
In-Reply-To: <21925.32358.212886.346548@lrd.home.lan>
References: <21925.21070.174686.592913@lrd.home.lan>	<CAKr4wiRbB5NhZop4eNGUkd5nUSO0nZb03Cba82Uq7Trrwx552Q@mail.gmail.com>	<21925.26096.423297.144221@lrd.home.lan>	<CAKr4wiR4DfBmEnQVU0XEHS0urnQMoJJfWHEVa55o8PFFebheoA@mail.gmail.com>	<21925.27930.104497.888009@lrd.home.lan>	<55A578A9.1070301@workingcode.com>
	<21925.32358.212886.346548@lrd.home.lan>
Message-ID: <55A64277.3010301@workingcode.com>

On 07/14/15 17:25, mike-romberg at comcast.net wrote:
>>>>>> " " == James Carlson <carlsonj at workingcode.com> writes:
> 
> [...]
>      > Nit: that last command should be "dhcp start".
> 
> svcadm disable nwam
> svcadm enable physical:default
> ifconfig -a plumb
> ifconfig e1000g0 dhcp start                                                   ifconfig: e1000g0: wait	timed out, operation still pending... 
> 
>   Is there some location the dhcp client may be logging to?

Sure.  The dhcpagent(1M) man page describes the client.  It logs to
syslog(3C) with facility LOG_DAEMON.  Assuming you have syslog set up
correctly (see /etc/syslog.conf), the messages show up in a file such as
/var/log/syslog.

You can also use snoop(1M) or wireshark to monitor its progress.

And you can do this:

# ifconfig e1000g0 dhcp status

That displays the current negotiation status.

>  Or can I
> just use some variant of ifconfig and route to setup a static ip
> address?

It works the same as ifconfig on any other system.  Here's an example:

# ifconfig e1000g0 192.168.254.1/24 up

Of course, if the underlying interface doesn't work for some reason,
that's not really going to help a whole lot.

-- 
James Carlson         42.703N 71.076W         <carlsonj at workingcode.com>


From mike-romberg at comcast.net  Wed Jul 15 18:51:40 2015
From: mike-romberg at comcast.net (mike-romberg at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:51:40 -0600
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Fixing DHCP networking
In-Reply-To: <4536234.pG5iAhvyZc@hephaistos.home.local>
References: <21925.21070.174686.592913@lrd.home.lan>
	<CAKr4wiR4DfBmEnQVU0XEHS0urnQMoJJfWHEVa55o8PFFebheoA@mail.gmail.com>
	<21925.27930.104497.888009@lrd.home.lan>
	<4536234.pG5iAhvyZc@hephaistos.home.local>
Message-ID: <21926.43964.683490.138462@lrd.home.lan>

>>>>> " " == Till Wegm?ller <toasterson at gmail.com> writes:

     > In my attempts in QEMU/KVM it turned out to be the NAT
     > interface of libvirt was the problem. I tried with fixed
     > address and DHCP but it just would not work.

     > The only way I was able to run OI with KVM/libvirt was with a
     > bridged interface.

  I got it (openindiana and DHCP) working with libvirt!   Holy gods
that thing is an unholy mess of XML.  I think the only thing libvirt
does is provide an camouflage of xml around quemu which does all the
actual work.

  Anyway I'm posting here in case it helps someone else attempting to
run openindiana (but I think it applies to all the Solaris variants)
in libvirt.  The big key is to not use KVM.  If KVM is being used then
Solaris will see an ethernet device.  And it functions perfectly fine
(from the perspective of the guest OS (Solaris).  But it is a black
hole.  Nothing goes in or out.

  Turning off KVM for openindiana was not completely obvious.  So here
is the command line I used to install an image of openindiana from the
pretest project (http://www.nongnu.org/pretest/).  Most of the install
args are from there.  But if you add my changes then openindiana will
have working NAT networking:

virt-install --name 'openindiana-hipster' --connect qemu:///system \
  --virt-type qemu --wait=0 --vcpus=1 --import --boot hd \
  --ram 1024 --network=network=default,model=e1000 \
  --disk path=openindiana-hipster-20150330.build-ready.qcow2,device=disk,format=qcow2,bus=ide,perms=rw

  The super important bit is the '--virt-type qemu' line.

  Anyway thanks everyone for the help.  I was unsure how ifconfig ran
(and more importantly how to disable the auto networking stuff so I
could run ifconfig).  Once I found the black hole I could concentrate
on the real problem.  It was not the NAT network.  It is the KVM
ethernet device.

Hope this helps someone else...

Mike



From alp at rsu.ru  Fri Jul 17 11:30:38 2015
From: alp at rsu.ru (Alexander Pyhalov)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 14:30:38 +0300
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] /hipster: rsyslog question
In-Reply-To: <55A4F6C5.8070507@2e-systems.com>
References: <55A4BAE0.3040704@2e-systems.com> <55A4E4DA.1000903@rsu.ru>
	<55A4F6C5.8070507@2e-systems.com>
Message-ID: <55A8E75E.2050805@rsu.ru>

On 07/14/2015 14:47, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote:

> Will wait until next reboot, for final confirmation.
>

Hi.
Did you have a chance to ensure that your manifest works on reboot?


-- 
Best regards,
Alexander Pyhalov,
system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department


From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com  Fri Jul 17 12:18:13 2015
From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?B?UHJlZHJhZyBaZcSNZXZpxIcgLSBVbml4IFN5c3RlbXMgQWRtaW5pc3RyYQ==?= =?UTF-8?B?dG9y?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 14:18:13 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] /hipster: rsyslog question
In-Reply-To: <55A8E75E.2050805@rsu.ru>
References: <55A4BAE0.3040704@2e-systems.com> <55A4E4DA.1000903@rsu.ru>
	<55A4F6C5.8070507@2e-systems.com> <55A8E75E.2050805@rsu.ru>
Message-ID: <55A8F285.9090802@2e-systems.com>

On 07/17/15 01:30 PM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:
> On 07/14/2015 14:47, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote:
>
>> Will wait until next reboot, for final confirmation.
>>
>
> Hi.
> Did you have a chance to ensure that your manifest works on reboot?
>
>
Hi Alexander,

yes, just did it - works perfect...

Best regards.
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2e Systems GmbH

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From t12nslookup at gmail.com  Tue Jul 21 08:07:06 2015
From: t12nslookup at gmail.com (Jonathan Adams)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:07:06 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
Message-ID: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi I'm looging for some help over sendmail writing to syslog.

I am using oi a9 on a couple of our servers, and they are running sendmail,
using almost the same main.mc compiled from the original servers.

They are all logging to syslog, but on the original servers I get the
"from=" headers and the "to=" headers logged in syslog, and on the new
server I only get "to=" logged to syslog, and then only when the email is
being forwarded to the smart-host, not on receipt.

We grep the syslog to see if an email has been received, before it goes
through our mail scanner system, and the lack of a from makes this
impossible.

has anyone else come across this, or any solution/suggestion on how to get
it to work?

Jon

From rvchari at ymail.com  Tue Jul 21 10:52:46 2015
From: rvchari at ymail.com (Ramesh Chari)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:52:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] todays experience in OI hipster
Message-ID: <926620210.1725617.1437475966055.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

1. after a lot of jugglery i was atlast able to play mp3 files using xmms as well as beep media player clash of plugins n that i installed using pkgin from joyent source. [here i did not have any plugins clash or plugins not available / loaded]
2. after todays update, i felt mplayer should work but alas, libx....so.125 was needed where as the system was having libx...so.140. i felt if the system was updated to *so..140, relative apps that ?needed may have been made compatible. i am sure it will be solved and OI will truly become a rugged desktop on par with its BSD cousins..!
3. wifi usb adapter. i have WUSB54GCv3,0 cicso-linksys usb adapter which shows up in device driver utility as a usb_mid device. i am trying to learn to use nwamcfg to make this work but i am unsure of using the dev [should it be urtwn0 ot ral0?]

From t12nslookup at gmail.com  Tue Jul 21 11:00:30 2015
From: t12nslookup at gmail.com (Jonathan Adams)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 12:00:30 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] todays experience in OI hipster
In-Reply-To: <926620210.1725617.1437475966055.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <926620210.1725617.1437475966055.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAKr4wiQJj4jmKDAOgON0te7=BQBxnh8LYVgnmAWQLf2ZX0=xow@mail.gmail.com>

3) if you want to find all the interfaces in your machine you can use the
"dladm show-link" command, which will show you all the physical and virtual
interfaces.

After you find out your interfaces, which only work if you have a working
driver, nwam will work well for you.

Jon

On 21 July 2015 at 11:52, Ramesh Chari <rvchari at ymail.com> wrote:

> 1. after a lot of jugglery i was atlast able to play mp3 files using xmms
> as well as beep media player clash of plugins n that i installed using
> pkgin from joyent source. [here i did not have any plugins clash or plugins
> not available / loaded]
> 2. after todays update, i felt mplayer should work but alas,
> libx....so.125 was needed where as the system was having libx...so.140. i
> felt if the system was updated to *so..140, relative apps that  needed may
> have been made compatible. i am sure it will be solved and OI will truly
> become a rugged desktop on par with its BSD cousins..!
> 3. wifi usb adapter. i have WUSB54GCv3,0 cicso-linksys usb adapter which
> shows up in device driver utility as a usb_mid device. i am trying to learn
> to use nwamcfg to make this work but i am unsure of using the dev [should
> it be urtwn0 ot ral0?]
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>

From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com  Tue Jul 21 11:04:54 2015
From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?B?UHJlZHJhZyBaZcSNZXZpxIcgLSBVbml4IFN5c3RlbXMgQWRtaW5pc3RyYQ==?= =?UTF-8?B?dG9y?=)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:04:54 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] todays experience in OI hipster
In-Reply-To: <926620210.1725617.1437475966055.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <926620210.1725617.1437475966055.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <55AE2756.6060500@2e-systems.com>

On 07/21/15 12:52 PM, Ramesh Chari wrote:
> 1. after a lot of jugglery i was atlast able to play mp3 files using xmms as well as beep media player clash of plugins n that i installed using pkgin from joyent source. [here i did not have any plugins clash or plugins not available / loaded]
> 2. after todays update, i felt mplayer should work but alas, libx....so.125 was needed where as the system was having libx...so.140. i felt if the system was updated to *so..140, relative apps that  needed may have been made compatible. i am sure it will be solved and OI will truly become a rugged desktop on par with its BSD cousins..!

1) and 2) I am using other SFE repository (and search goes in order of 
displaying items):

$ PUBLISHER                   TYPE     STATUS P LOCATION
openindiana.org              origin   online F 
http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-2015/
localhostoi151a8              origin   online F 
http://sfe.opencsw.org/localhostoi151a8/
sfe            (non-sticky) origin   online F 
http://pkg.openindiana.org/sfe/
sfe-encumbered              origin   online F 
http://pkg.openindiana.org/sfe-encumbered/

For playing of various media types, I can now use: totem 
(openindiana.org), vlc and mlpayer (both from sfe.opencsw.org).

I see there is preparation for 
http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-encumbered/ - but I guess it is not 
yet ready for use).

Regards.


> 3. wifi usb adapter. i have WUSB54GCv3,0 cicso-linksys usb adapter which shows up in device driver utility as a usb_mid device. i am trying to learn to use nwamcfg to make this work but i am unsure of using the dev [should it be urtwn0 ot ral0?]
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From alp at rsu.ru  Tue Jul 21 11:09:34 2015
From: alp at rsu.ru (Alexander Pyhalov)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:09:34 +0300
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] todays experience in OI hipster
In-Reply-To: <926620210.1725617.1437475966055.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <926620210.1725617.1437475966055.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <55AE286E.400@rsu.ru>

On 07/21/2015 13:52, Ramesh Chari wrote:
> 1. after a lot of jugglery i was atlast able to play mp3 files using xmms as well as beep media player clash of plugins n that i installed using pkgin from joyent source. [here i did not have any plugins clash or plugins not available / loaded]
> 2. after todays update, i felt mplayer should work but alas, libx....so.125 was needed where as the system was having libx...so.140. i felt if the system was updated to *so..140, relative apps that  needed may have been made compatible. i am sure it will be solved and OI will truly become a rugged desktop on par with its BSD cousins..!
> 3. wifi usb adapter. i have WUSB54GCv3,0 cicso-linksys usb adapter which shows up in device driver utility as a usb_mid device. i am trying to learn to use nwamcfg to make this work but i am unsure of using the dev [should it be urtwn0 ot ral0?]
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>

Hello.

Old http://pkg.openindiana.org/sfe/ and 
http://pkg.openindiana.org/sfe-encumbered/ repositories were 
unmaintained for some time. For OI Hipster we are working on 
http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-encumbered/ repository with 
multimedia codecs. But it's still in its early stages. During transition 
some old SFE components can be broken, as we add newer libraries to 
/hipster-2015 and /hipster-encumbered.

What exact libraries were missing for mplayer?
-- 
Best regards,
Alexander Pyhalov,
system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department


From gary_mills at fastmail.fm  Tue Jul 21 12:52:45 2015
From: gary_mills at fastmail.fm (Gary Mills)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 07:52:45 -0500
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150721125245.GA713@mail.messagingengine.com>

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 09:07:06AM +0100, Jonathan Adams wrote:
> 
> They are all logging to syslog, but on the original servers I get the
> "from=" headers and the "to=" headers logged in syslog, and on the new
> server I only get "to=" logged to syslog, and then only when the email is
> being forwarded to the smart-host, not on receipt.

Can you determine what has changed between the original server and the
new one?  Is /etc/syslog.conf the same, particularly the line that
redirects to /var/log/syslog?  The selector should be `mail.debug',
which handles all log messages with the `mail' facility.  You might
need to disable svc:/system/system-log:default temporarily and start
syslogd in debug mode instead.  This will show you all of the log
messages sent to syslogd.

If it's not syslog that's changed, you should look at how logging is
specified in the sendmail configuration.

-- 
-Gary Mills-		-refurb-		-Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada-


From t12nslookup at gmail.com  Tue Jul 21 13:46:13 2015
From: t12nslookup at gmail.com (Jonathan Adams)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:46:13 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <20150721125245.GA713@mail.messagingengine.com>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721125245.GA713@mail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <CAKr4wiQDk1eVPzYVhUyqTQJXiBGjypOdVce8PVwmD=nuv4CYPQ@mail.gmail.com>

The original was a Solaris 10 box, the new one is Illumos, they use
essentially the same mc file, the "syslog.conf"s are duplicates.

I see sendmail logging when I run /usr/lib/sendmail -oQ<directory>, but I
don't see it when it's running as a daemon.

syslog appears to be working fine, MailScanner is writing to it, as are
SpamAssassin and Clam AV (on both localhost, and via the external address)

I've turned off ipfilter in case that was the issue as well, and it doesn't
appear to have changed anything.

When I truss the sendmail daemon, there is nothing in the output that seems
to mention "log" ...

I am running it in an exclusive-ip zone, I'm not sure if that should make a
difference ...

root at mailgate2:~# grep -i mail /etc/syslog.conf
*.err;kern.debug;daemon.notice;mail.crit        /var/adm/messages
mail.info                       ifdef(`LOGHOST', /var/log/syslog, @loghost)
#mail.debug                     ifdef(`LOGHOST', /var/log/syslog, @loghost)

root at mailgate2:~# svccfg -s smtp:sendmail listprop | grep -i local
config/local_only                    boolean  false
config-file/entities                 fmri     file://localhost/etc/mail/
sendmail.cf
nsswitch/entities                    fmri
file://localhost/etc/nsswitch.conf

root at mailgate2:~# ps -ef | grep -i [s]endmail
    root 25118 19018   0 14:42:11 ?           0:00 /usr/lib/sendmail -bd
   smmsp 17784  9100   0 13:02:06 ?           0:00 /usr/lib/sendmail -Ac
-q15m
    root 19018  9100   0 13:21:43 ?           0:00 /usr/lib/sendmail -bd
    root 25120 19018   0 14:42:13 ?           0:00 /usr/lib/sendmail -bd

root at mailgate2:~# grep loghost /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1       localhost loghost
::1     localhost loghost

root at mailgate2:~# svcs -a | egrep "sendmail|system-log"
online         13:02:05 svc:/network/sendmail-client:default
online         13:21:43 svc:/network/smtp:sendmail
online         14:03:19 svc:/system/system-log:default

I was wondering if it was due to permissions for it's uid:

root at mailgate2:~# truss -f -p 19018
19018:      *** SGID: rgid/egid/sgid = 0 / 25 / 25  ***
19018:  pollsys(0x08045090, 3, 0x08045148, 0x00000000) (sleeping...)
19018:  pollsys(0x08045090, 3, 0x08045148, 0x00000000)  = 0
19018:  lwp_sigmask(SIG_SETMASK, 0x00002000, 0x00000000, 0x00000000,
0x00000000) = 0xFFBFFEFF [0xFFFFFFFF]

...
^C
root at mailgate2:~# grep 25 /etc/passwd
smmsp:x:25:25:SendMail Message Submission Program:/:

I'd prefer not to compile my own sendmail to check if it was a compile
option, but I will if you think it'd help.

Jon

On 21 July 2015 at 13:52, Gary Mills <gary_mills at fastmail.fm> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 09:07:06AM +0100, Jonathan Adams wrote:
> >
> > They are all logging to syslog, but on the original servers I get the
> > "from=" headers and the "to=" headers logged in syslog, and on the new
> > server I only get "to=" logged to syslog, and then only when the email is
> > being forwarded to the smart-host, not on receipt.
>
> Can you determine what has changed between the original server and the
> new one?  Is /etc/syslog.conf the same, particularly the line that
> redirects to /var/log/syslog?  The selector should be `mail.debug',
> which handles all log messages with the `mail' facility.  You might
> need to disable svc:/system/system-log:default temporarily and start
> syslogd in debug mode instead.  This will show you all of the log
> messages sent to syslogd.
>
> If it's not syslog that's changed, you should look at how logging is
> specified in the sendmail configuration.
>
> --
> -Gary Mills-            -refurb-                -Winnipeg, Manitoba,
> Canada-
>
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>

From t12nslookup at gmail.com  Tue Jul 21 13:50:15 2015
From: t12nslookup at gmail.com (Jonathan Adams)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:50:15 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <CAKr4wiQDk1eVPzYVhUyqTQJXiBGjypOdVce8PVwmD=nuv4CYPQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721125245.GA713@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiQDk1eVPzYVhUyqTQJXiBGjypOdVce8PVwmD=nuv4CYPQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKr4wiTgWmiPRh4eTAkJmSVGHo6pUrZcj7YDkv2ULNk7LNpQUQ@mail.gmail.com>

additionally, our main.mc looks mostly like this:

root at mailgate2:/etc/mail/cf/cf# grep '^[^#]' main.mc
divert(-1)
divert(0)dnl
VERSIONID(`sendmail.mc (Sun)')
OSTYPE(`solaris8')dnl
DOMAIN(`solaris-generic')dnl
FEATURE(`access_db')
FEATURE(use_cw_file)
FEATURE(`nocanonify')
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `xbl.spamhaus.org')
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `sbl.spamhaus.org')
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `bl.spamcop.net', `"Spam blocked see:
http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml?"$&{client_addr}')dnl
define(`confLDAP_DEFAULT_SPEC', `-h ldap-server -b
ou=Aliases,dc=domain,dc=com -w 3')dnl
define(`confLDAP_CLUSTER', `domain.com')dnl
define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/mail/aliases,ldap: -k
(&(objectClass=nisMailAlias)(cn=%0)) -v rfc822mailmember')dnl
FEATURE(`virtusertable', `ldap:-b ou=Mail,dc=domain,dc=com -1 -k
"(&(objectClass=sendmailMTAMapObject)(sendmailMTAMapName=virtuser)(|(sendmailMTACluster=${sendmailMTACluster})(sendmailMTAHost=$j))(sendmailMTAKey=%0))"
-v sendmailMTAMapValue')
define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `restrictqrun,noreceipts,noetrn,goaway')dnl
define(`confDONT_PRUNE_ROUTES', `True')dnl
define(`confCOPY_ERRORS_TO', `postmaster')dnl
define(`confSEPARATE_PROC', `True')dnl
define(`confQUEUE_SORT_ORDER', `time')dnl
define(`confDELIVERY_MODE', `queue all mail')dnl
define(`confDOMAIN_NAME', `mailgate2.domain.com')
define(`SMART_HOST', `[smart-host]')dnl
MAILER(`local')dnl
MAILER(`smtp')dnl
LOCAL_NET_CONFIG
R$* < @ $* .$m. > $*    $#esmtp $@ $2.$m $: $1 < @ $2.$m. > $3


On 21 July 2015 at 14:46, Jonathan Adams <t12nslookup at gmail.com> wrote:

> The original was a Solaris 10 box, the new one is Illumos, they use
> essentially the same mc file, the "syslog.conf"s are duplicates.
>
> I see sendmail logging when I run /usr/lib/sendmail -oQ<directory>, but I
> don't see it when it's running as a daemon.
>
> syslog appears to be working fine, MailScanner is writing to it, as are
> SpamAssassin and Clam AV (on both localhost, and via the external address)
>
> I've turned off ipfilter in case that was the issue as well, and it
> doesn't appear to have changed anything.
>
> When I truss the sendmail daemon, there is nothing in the output that
> seems to mention "log" ...
>
> I am running it in an exclusive-ip zone, I'm not sure if that should make
> a difference ...
>
> root at mailgate2:~# grep -i mail /etc/syslog.conf
> *.err;kern.debug;daemon.notice;mail.crit        /var/adm/messages
> mail.info                       ifdef(`LOGHOST', /var/log/syslog,
> @loghost)
> #mail.debug                     ifdef(`LOGHOST', /var/log/syslog, @loghost)
>
> root at mailgate2:~# svccfg -s smtp:sendmail listprop | grep -i local
> config/local_only                    boolean  false
> config-file/entities                 fmri     file://localhost/etc/mail/
> sendmail.cf
> nsswitch/entities                    fmri
> file://localhost/etc/nsswitch.conf
>
> root at mailgate2:~# ps -ef | grep -i [s]endmail
>     root 25118 19018   0 14:42:11 ?           0:00 /usr/lib/sendmail -bd
>    smmsp 17784  9100   0 13:02:06 ?           0:00 /usr/lib/sendmail -Ac
> -q15m
>     root 19018  9100   0 13:21:43 ?           0:00 /usr/lib/sendmail -bd
>     root 25120 19018   0 14:42:13 ?           0:00 /usr/lib/sendmail -bd
>
> root at mailgate2:~# grep loghost /etc/hosts
> 127.0.0.1       localhost loghost
> ::1     localhost loghost
>
> root at mailgate2:~# svcs -a | egrep "sendmail|system-log"
> online         13:02:05 svc:/network/sendmail-client:default
> online         13:21:43 svc:/network/smtp:sendmail
> online         14:03:19 svc:/system/system-log:default
>
> I was wondering if it was due to permissions for it's uid:
>
> root at mailgate2:~# truss -f -p 19018
> 19018:      *** SGID: rgid/egid/sgid = 0 / 25 / 25  ***
> 19018:  pollsys(0x08045090, 3, 0x08045148, 0x00000000) (sleeping...)
> 19018:  pollsys(0x08045090, 3, 0x08045148, 0x00000000)  = 0
> 19018:  lwp_sigmask(SIG_SETMASK, 0x00002000, 0x00000000, 0x00000000,
> 0x00000000) = 0xFFBFFEFF [0xFFFFFFFF]
>
> ...
> ^C
> root at mailgate2:~# grep 25 /etc/passwd
> smmsp:x:25:25:SendMail Message Submission Program:/:
>
> I'd prefer not to compile my own sendmail to check if it was a compile
> option, but I will if you think it'd help.
>
> Jon
>
> On 21 July 2015 at 13:52, Gary Mills <gary_mills at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 09:07:06AM +0100, Jonathan Adams wrote:
>> >
>> > They are all logging to syslog, but on the original servers I get the
>> > "from=" headers and the "to=" headers logged in syslog, and on the new
>> > server I only get "to=" logged to syslog, and then only when the email
>> is
>> > being forwarded to the smart-host, not on receipt.
>>
>> Can you determine what has changed between the original server and the
>> new one?  Is /etc/syslog.conf the same, particularly the line that
>> redirects to /var/log/syslog?  The selector should be `mail.debug',
>> which handles all log messages with the `mail' facility.  You might
>> need to disable svc:/system/system-log:default temporarily and start
>> syslogd in debug mode instead.  This will show you all of the log
>> messages sent to syslogd.
>>
>> If it's not syslog that's changed, you should look at how logging is
>> specified in the sendmail configuration.
>>
>> --
>> -Gary Mills-            -refurb-                -Winnipeg, Manitoba,
>> Canada-
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> openindiana-discuss mailing list
>> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>>
>
>

From jdg117 at elvis.arl.psu.edu  Tue Jul 21 13:55:44 2015
From: jdg117 at elvis.arl.psu.edu (John D Groenveld)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:55:44 -0400
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:07:06 BST."
	<CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com> 
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201507211355.t6LDtiiZ010015@elvis.arl.psu.edu>

In message <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg at mail.gmail.com>
, Jonathan Adams writes:
>I am using oi a9 on a couple of our servers, and they are running sendmail,
>using almost the same main.mc compiled from the original servers.

What main.mc? I don't see it in this thread.

By "compiled" do you mean a main.cf generated from a main.mc?
If so, you're possibly overdue to "make main.cf" in case the
meaning of any of the macros in main.mc have slightly changed
in various OI sendmail updates.

John
groenveld at acm.org


From t12nslookup at gmail.com  Tue Jul 21 14:03:23 2015
From: t12nslookup at gmail.com (Jonathan Adams)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:03:23 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <201507211355.t6LDtiiZ010015@elvis.arl.psu.edu>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
	<201507211355.t6LDtiiZ010015@elvis.arl.psu.edu>
Message-ID: <CAKr4wiQSSHdOXoauct96tYuj+_PVRiWVWBmn15ESVdz0-1eLZQ@mail.gmail.com>

root at mailgate2:/etc/mail/cf/cf# make
make: Nothing to be done for `all'.
root at mailgate2:/etc/mail/cf/cf# diff sendmail.cf ../..
root at mailgate2:/etc/mail/cf/cf#


On 21 July 2015 at 14:55, John D Groenveld <jdg117 at elvis.arl.psu.edu> wrote:

> In message <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=
> fAg at mail.gmail.com>
> , Jonathan Adams writes:
> >I am using oi a9 on a couple of our servers, and they are running
> sendmail,
> >using almost the same main.mc compiled from the original servers.
>
> What main.mc? I don't see it in this thread.
>
> By "compiled" do you mean a main.cf generated from a main.mc?
> If so, you're possibly overdue to "make main.cf" in case the
> meaning of any of the macros in main.mc have slightly changed
> in various OI sendmail updates.
>
> John
> groenveld at acm.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>

From gary_mills at fastmail.fm  Tue Jul 21 18:39:27 2015
From: gary_mills at fastmail.fm (Gary Mills)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:39:27 -0500
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <CAKr4wiQDk1eVPzYVhUyqTQJXiBGjypOdVce8PVwmD=nuv4CYPQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721125245.GA713@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiQDk1eVPzYVhUyqTQJXiBGjypOdVce8PVwmD=nuv4CYPQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150721183927.GA2323@mail.messagingengine.com>

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 02:46:13PM +0100, Jonathan Adams wrote:
> 
> When I truss the sendmail daemon, there is nothing in the output that seems
> to mention "log" ...

That's normal.  You might be able to identify them by content,
although sendmail won't produce them if its log level is too low.

> root at mailgate2:~# grep -i mail /etc/syslog.conf
> *.err;kern.debug;daemon.notice;mail.crit        /var/adm/messages
> mail.info                       ifdef(`LOGHOST', /var/log/syslog, @loghost)
> #mail.debug                     ifdef(`LOGHOST', /var/log/syslog, @loghost)

All my entries in /var/log/syslog are `mail.info', so that's probably
okay.  You should still try syslog debugging, just in case sendmail's
log message are being sent with a different facility or level.

Sendmail's internal log level, not related to syslog's level, should
default to 9.  It's documented in cf/README this way:

    confLOG_LEVEL		LogLevel	[9] Log level.

I assume it's unchanged.

-- 
-Gary Mills-		-refurb-		-Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada-


From t12nslookup at gmail.com  Tue Jul 21 20:35:05 2015
From: t12nslookup at gmail.com (Jonathan Adams)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 21:35:05 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <20150721183927.GA2323@mail.messagingengine.com>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721125245.GA713@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiQDk1eVPzYVhUyqTQJXiBGjypOdVce8PVwmD=nuv4CYPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721183927.GA2323@mail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <CAKr4wiS1=QOko8ju6y_UJ7c6FkauUkbRxFU1kNC49OZgex99WA@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah logging is set to 9, I set it to 10 just in case but it made no
difference.  I have mail.info instead of mail.debug because on Solaris 10
the LDAP output takes up too much space.

I was wondering if anyone else has the same issue, especially since this
happened on two different OI servers set up by 2 different people, although
according to the same internal wiki page.  We just didn't notice until I
was building the latest replacement that it hadn't been logging. I had
almost noticed before but thought it was just a one off type of thing.

Do other people use sendmail in zones in production, and do they have the
same issues?
On 21 Jul 2015 19:40, "Gary Mills" <gary_mills at fastmail.fm> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 02:46:13PM +0100, Jonathan Adams wrote:
> >
> > When I truss the sendmail daemon, there is nothing in the output that
> seems
> > to mention "log" ...
>
> That's normal.  You might be able to identify them by content,
> although sendmail won't produce them if its log level is too low.
>
> > root at mailgate2:~# grep -i mail /etc/syslog.conf
> > *.err;kern.debug;daemon.notice;mail.crit        /var/adm/messages
> > mail.info                       ifdef(`LOGHOST', /var/log/syslog,
> @loghost)
> > #mail.debug                     ifdef(`LOGHOST', /var/log/syslog,
> @loghost)
>
> All my entries in /var/log/syslog are `mail.info', so that's probably
> okay.  You should still try syslog debugging, just in case sendmail's
> log message are being sent with a different facility or level.
>
> Sendmail's internal log level, not related to syslog's level, should
> default to 9.  It's documented in cf/README this way:
>
>     confLOG_LEVEL               LogLevel        [9] Log level.
>
> I assume it's unchanged.
>
> --
> -Gary Mills-            -refurb-                -Winnipeg, Manitoba,
> Canada-
>
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>

From carl at bl.echidna.id.au  Wed Jul 22 00:33:55 2015
From: carl at bl.echidna.id.au (Carl Brewer)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:33:55 +1000
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Virtualbox on hipster
In-Reply-To: <6D2BB451-8FE5-4DC0-A84F-3F560E56955D@cos.ru>
References: <55A02997.30103@willows7.myzen.co.uk>
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hey Jim, et al,
I'm considering bumping my VBox install on a OI 151 a8 release, from 
4.3.26 to either 4.3.30 or 5.0.0
I've had no problems in the past doing this without doing anything more 
than a pkg install.

Before I do, I did see you (Jim) did some work on the package - do you 
have a set of instructions somewhere for how to make sure this will 
install cleanly?

Thanks!

Carl



From jimklimov at cos.ru  Wed Jul 22 05:24:26 2015
From: jimklimov at cos.ru (Jim Klimov)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 07:24:26 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Virtualbox on hipster
In-Reply-To: <55AEE4F3.2050000@bl.echidna.id.au>
References: <55A02997.30103@willows7.myzen.co.uk>
	<6D2BB451-8FE5-4DC0-A84F-3F560E56955D@cos.ru>
	<55AEE4F3.2050000@bl.echidna.id.au>
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22 ???? 2015??. 2:33:55 CEST, Carl Brewer <carl at bl.echidna.id.au> ?????:
>
>hey Jim, et al,
>I'm considering bumping my VBox install on a OI 151 a8 release, from 
>4.3.26 to either 4.3.30 or 5.0.0
>I've had no problems in the past doing this without doing anything more
>
>than a pkg install.
>
>Before I do, I did see you (Jim) did some work on the package - do you 
>have a set of instructions somewhere for how to make sure this will 
>install cleanly?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Carl
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>openindiana-discuss mailing list
>openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss

Essentially, the changes are needed to have the script install/uninstall usb drivers (you can force networking by a touchfile).

If you never used these - you can probably get away with default packages.

Instructions are in the readme on github project.

--
Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android


From t12nslookup at gmail.com  Wed Jul 22 12:00:12 2015
From: t12nslookup at gmail.com (Jonathan Adams)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:00:12 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <CAKr4wiS1=QOko8ju6y_UJ7c6FkauUkbRxFU1kNC49OZgex99WA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721125245.GA713@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiQDk1eVPzYVhUyqTQJXiBGjypOdVce8PVwmD=nuv4CYPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721183927.GA2323@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiS1=QOko8ju6y_UJ7c6FkauUkbRxFU1kNC49OZgex99WA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKr4wiQjQ3+9+GrGZNVcx0m7C6tpoORb3HytNOT91Wc52pGjcQ@mail.gmail.com>

okay, I worked with the global zone, using the standard sendmail.cf,
modified the props in smtp:sendmail to set config/local_only to false,
telnet'd in from a box on our internal network and there is no address
logging.

sendmail does log to syslog with "gethostbyaddr" errors (until I fixed
hosts), and /var/adm/messages has logs of unknown users, or messages about
"relaying denied", or to tell me I hadn't created aliases/access.db ... but
there is no successful "from= ... to=" messages anywhere.

can anyone else try this, and see if it's just something I'm doing?!?

Ta

Jon

On 21 July 2015 at 21:35, Jonathan Adams <t12nslookup at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah logging is set to 9, I set it to 10 just in case but it made no
> difference.  I have mail.info instead of mail.debug because on Solaris 10
> the LDAP output takes up too much space.
>
> I was wondering if anyone else has the same issue, especially since this
> happened on two different OI servers set up by 2 different people, although
> according to the same internal wiki page.  We just didn't notice until I
> was building the latest replacement that it hadn't been logging. I had
> almost noticed before but thought it was just a one off type of thing.
>
> Do other people use sendmail in zones in production, and do they have the
> same issues?
> On 21 Jul 2015 19:40, "Gary Mills" <gary_mills at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 02:46:13PM +0100, Jonathan Adams wrote:
>> >
>> > When I truss the sendmail daemon, there is nothing in the output that
>> seems
>> > to mention "log" ...
>>
>> That's normal.  You might be able to identify them by content,
>> although sendmail won't produce them if its log level is too low.
>>
>> > root at mailgate2:~# grep -i mail /etc/syslog.conf
>> > *.err;kern.debug;daemon.notice;mail.crit        /var/adm/messages
>> > mail.info                       ifdef(`LOGHOST', /var/log/syslog,
>> @loghost)
>> > #mail.debug                     ifdef(`LOGHOST', /var/log/syslog,
>> @loghost)
>>
>> All my entries in /var/log/syslog are `mail.info', so that's probably
>> okay.  You should still try syslog debugging, just in case sendmail's
>> log message are being sent with a different facility or level.
>>
>> Sendmail's internal log level, not related to syslog's level, should
>> default to 9.  It's documented in cf/README this way:
>>
>>     confLOG_LEVEL               LogLevel        [9] Log level.
>>
>> I assume it's unchanged.
>>
>> --
>> -Gary Mills-            -refurb-                -Winnipeg, Manitoba,
>> Canada-
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> openindiana-discuss mailing list
>> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>>
>

From t12nslookup at gmail.com  Wed Jul 22 12:25:55 2015
From: t12nslookup at gmail.com (Jonathan Adams)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:25:55 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <CAKr4wiQjQ3+9+GrGZNVcx0m7C6tpoORb3HytNOT91Wc52pGjcQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721125245.GA713@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiQDk1eVPzYVhUyqTQJXiBGjypOdVce8PVwmD=nuv4CYPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721183927.GA2323@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiS1=QOko8ju6y_UJ7c6FkauUkbRxFU1kNC49OZgex99WA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKr4wiQjQ3+9+GrGZNVcx0m7C6tpoORb3HytNOT91Wc52pGjcQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKr4wiRjNB6rYyQngA=J5vG9QdECYfGkccWZgS1hTA-UseuwJQ@mail.gmail.com>

cr*p ... I edited syslog to log _everything_

sendmail is logging to "daemon.info", not "mail.info" ... at least I can
get it fixed.

I'm not sure if anyone else even uses sendmail nowadays, but that adding "
daemon.info" to the mail.info/debug line should get it working for you.

Jon

On 22 July 2015 at 13:00, Jonathan Adams <t12nslookup at gmail.com> wrote:

> okay, I worked with the global zone, using the standard sendmail.cf,
> modified the props in smtp:sendmail to set config/local_only to false,
> telnet'd in from a box on our internal network and there is no address
> logging.
>
> sendmail does log to syslog with "gethostbyaddr" errors (until I fixed
> hosts), and /var/adm/messages has logs of unknown users, or messages about
> "relaying denied", or to tell me I hadn't created aliases/access.db ... but
> there is no successful "from= ... to=" messages anywhere.
>
> can anyone else try this, and see if it's just something I'm doing?!?
>
> Ta
>
> Jon
>
> On 21 July 2015 at 21:35, Jonathan Adams <t12nslookup at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah logging is set to 9, I set it to 10 just in case but it made no
>> difference.  I have mail.info instead of mail.debug because on Solaris
>> 10 the LDAP output takes up too much space.
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone else has the same issue, especially since this
>> happened on two different OI servers set up by 2 different people, although
>> according to the same internal wiki page.  We just didn't notice until I
>> was building the latest replacement that it hadn't been logging. I had
>> almost noticed before but thought it was just a one off type of thing.
>>
>> Do other people use sendmail in zones in production, and do they have the
>> same issues?
>> On 21 Jul 2015 19:40, "Gary Mills" <gary_mills at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 02:46:13PM +0100, Jonathan Adams wrote:
>>> >
>>> > When I truss the sendmail daemon, there is nothing in the output that
>>> seems
>>> > to mention "log" ...
>>>
>>> That's normal.  You might be able to identify them by content,
>>> although sendmail won't produce them if its log level is too low.
>>>
>>> > root at mailgate2:~# grep -i mail /etc/syslog.conf
>>> > *.err;kern.debug;daemon.notice;mail.crit        /var/adm/messages
>>> > mail.info                       ifdef(`LOGHOST', /var/log/syslog,
>>> @loghost)
>>> > #mail.debug                     ifdef(`LOGHOST', /var/log/syslog,
>>> @loghost)
>>>
>>> All my entries in /var/log/syslog are `mail.info', so that's probably
>>> okay.  You should still try syslog debugging, just in case sendmail's
>>> log message are being sent with a different facility or level.
>>>
>>> Sendmail's internal log level, not related to syslog's level, should
>>> default to 9.  It's documented in cf/README this way:
>>>
>>>     confLOG_LEVEL               LogLevel        [9] Log level.
>>>
>>> I assume it's unchanged.
>>>
>>> --
>>> -Gary Mills-            -refurb-                -Winnipeg, Manitoba,
>>> Canada-
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> openindiana-discuss mailing list
>>> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>>> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>>>
>>
>

From gary_mills at fastmail.fm  Wed Jul 22 13:46:23 2015
From: gary_mills at fastmail.fm (Gary Mills)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 08:46:23 -0500
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <CAKr4wiRjNB6rYyQngA=J5vG9QdECYfGkccWZgS1hTA-UseuwJQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20150722134623.GA7810@mail.messagingengine.com>

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 01:25:55PM +0100, Jonathan Adams wrote:
> cr*p ... I edited syslog to log _everything_

That's part of what syslog debugging does.

> sendmail is logging to "daemon.info", not "mail.info" ... at least I can
> get it fixed.

That's what I suspected.  It shouldn't be doing that.

> I'm not sure if anyone else even uses sendmail nowadays, but that adding "
> daemon.info" to the mail.info/debug line should get it working for you.

Lots of people use sendmail.  I'm running it under Solaris 11.2, but
using my own build of 8.14.4 because I needed SASLv2.

It sounds as if you are running a bad build of sendmail.  You can
check its version this way:

    $ /usr/lib/sendmail -d0.4 -bv root

-- 
-Gary Mills-		-refurb-		-Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada-


From t12nslookup at gmail.com  Wed Jul 22 13:53:23 2015
From: t12nslookup at gmail.com (Jonathan Adams)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 14:53:23 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <20150722134623.GA7810@mail.messagingengine.com>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAKr4wiQDk1eVPzYVhUyqTQJXiBGjypOdVce8PVwmD=nuv4CYPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721183927.GA2323@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiS1=QOko8ju6y_UJ7c6FkauUkbRxFU1kNC49OZgex99WA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKr4wiQjQ3+9+GrGZNVcx0m7C6tpoORb3HytNOT91Wc52pGjcQ@mail.gmail.com>
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it's the system compiled version :(

root at mailgate2:~# /usr/lib/sendmail -d0.4 -bv root
Version 8.14.4+Sun
 Compiled with: DNSMAP LDAPMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8
                MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NDBM NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS
                PIPELINING SASLv2 SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB
                USE_LDAP_INIT XDEBUG
Canonical name: mailgate2.salltd.co.uk
 UUCP nodename: mailgate2
        a.k.a.: mailgate2.domain.com
        a.k.a.: [213.210.9.6]
        a.k.a.: [127.0.0.1]
        a.k.a.: loghost
        a.k.a.: [x.x.x.x]
        a.k.a.: mansalmail01
        a.k.a.: mansalmail01.domain.com
        a.k.a.: extmail
        a.k.a.: [IPv6:::1]

============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============
      (short domain name) $w = mailgate2
  (canonical domain name) $j = mailgate2.domain.com
         (subdomain name) $m = domain.com
              (node name) $k = mailgate2
========================================================

\root... deliverable: mailer local, user \root

root at mailgate2:~# uname -a
SunOS mailgate2 5.11 oi_151a8 i86pc i386 i86pc
root at mailgate2:~# more /etc/release
             OpenIndiana Development oi_151.1.8 X86 (powered by illumos)
        Copyright 2011 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.
                        Use is subject to license terms.
                           Assembled 20 July 2013


On 22 July 2015 at 14:46, Gary Mills <gary_mills at fastmail.fm> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 01:25:55PM +0100, Jonathan Adams wrote:
> > cr*p ... I edited syslog to log _everything_
>
> That's part of what syslog debugging does.
>
> > sendmail is logging to "daemon.info", not "mail.info" ... at least I can
> > get it fixed.
>
> That's what I suspected.  It shouldn't be doing that.
>
> > I'm not sure if anyone else even uses sendmail nowadays, but that adding
> "
> > daemon.info" to the mail.info/debug line should get it working for you.
>
> Lots of people use sendmail.  I'm running it under Solaris 11.2, but
> using my own build of 8.14.4 because I needed SASLv2.
>
> It sounds as if you are running a bad build of sendmail.  You can
> check its version this way:
>
>     $ /usr/lib/sendmail -d0.4 -bv root
>
> --
> -Gary Mills-            -refurb-                -Winnipeg, Manitoba,
> Canada-
>
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>

From t12nslookup at gmail.com  Wed Jul 22 14:00:03 2015
From: t12nslookup at gmail.com (Jonathan Adams)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:00:03 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <CAKr4wiTDt08bOQda4dOqfvkT5GakUQQZNcc5wyOK38mfb3bjww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAKr4wiQDk1eVPzYVhUyqTQJXiBGjypOdVce8PVwmD=nuv4CYPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721183927.GA2323@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiS1=QOko8ju6y_UJ7c6FkauUkbRxFU1kNC49OZgex99WA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKr4wiQjQ3+9+GrGZNVcx0m7C6tpoORb3HytNOT91Wc52pGjcQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I realised that it was calling syslog when I trussed the syslogd on the
parent computer and saw movement when the test email was sent.

after that I added "*.alert;*.crit;*.err;*.warning;*.notice;*.info;*.debug
/var/log/testing" to syslog (log everything except "emerg" which is shoited
out to every display everywhere) and then watched the file when I sent the
test message again ...

anyway, I've got a working system, and I can grep syslog for email
addresses, so that's a win!

Thanks everyone.

Jon

On 22 July 2015 at 14:53, Jonathan Adams <t12nslookup at gmail.com> wrote:

> it's the system compiled version :(
>
> root at mailgate2:~# /usr/lib/sendmail -d0.4 -bv root
> Version 8.14.4+Sun
>  Compiled with: DNSMAP LDAPMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8
>                 MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NDBM NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS
>                 PIPELINING SASLv2 SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB
>                 USE_LDAP_INIT XDEBUG
> Canonical name: mailgate2.salltd.co.uk
>  UUCP nodename: mailgate2
>         a.k.a.: mailgate2.domain.com
>         a.k.a.: [213.210.9.6]
>         a.k.a.: [127.0.0.1]
>         a.k.a.: loghost
>         a.k.a.: [x.x.x.x]
>         a.k.a.: mansalmail01
>         a.k.a.: mansalmail01.domain.com
>         a.k.a.: extmail
>         a.k.a.: [IPv6:::1]
>
> ============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============
>       (short domain name) $w = mailgate2
>   (canonical domain name) $j = mailgate2.domain.com
>          (subdomain name) $m = domain.com
>               (node name) $k = mailgate2
> ========================================================
>
> \root... deliverable: mailer local, user \root
>
> root at mailgate2:~# uname -a
> SunOS mailgate2 5.11 oi_151a8 i86pc i386 i86pc
> root at mailgate2:~# more /etc/release
>              OpenIndiana Development oi_151.1.8 X86 (powered by illumos)
>         Copyright 2011 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.
>                         Use is subject to license terms.
>                            Assembled 20 July 2013
>
>
> On 22 July 2015 at 14:46, Gary Mills <gary_mills at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 01:25:55PM +0100, Jonathan Adams wrote:
>> > cr*p ... I edited syslog to log _everything_
>>
>> That's part of what syslog debugging does.
>>
>> > sendmail is logging to "daemon.info", not "mail.info" ... at least I
>> can
>> > get it fixed.
>>
>> That's what I suspected.  It shouldn't be doing that.
>>
>> > I'm not sure if anyone else even uses sendmail nowadays, but that
>> adding "
>> > daemon.info" to the mail.info/debug line should get it working for you.
>>
>> Lots of people use sendmail.  I'm running it under Solaris 11.2, but
>> using my own build of 8.14.4 because I needed SASLv2.
>>
>> It sounds as if you are running a bad build of sendmail.  You can
>> check its version this way:
>>
>>     $ /usr/lib/sendmail -d0.4 -bv root
>>
>> --
>> -Gary Mills-            -refurb-                -Winnipeg, Manitoba,
>> Canada-
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> openindiana-discuss mailing list
>> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>>
>
>

From Tim.Mooney at ndsu.edu  Wed Jul 22 18:35:25 2015
From: Tim.Mooney at ndsu.edu (Tim Mooney)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:35:25 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <CAKr4wiRjNB6rYyQngA=J5vG9QdECYfGkccWZgS1hTA-UseuwJQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <alpine.SOC.2.11.1507221333470.25810@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu>

In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging, Jonathan Adams...:

> I'm not sure if anyone else even uses sendmail nowadays, but that adding "
> daemon.info" to the mail.info/debug line should get it working for you.

We use it for every bit of our (Linux) email infrastructure, and I'm
certainly using sendmail on OI.  It's still the gold standard, even if
RHEL and other Linux distros are moving away from it.

Tim
-- 
Tim Mooney                                             Tim.Mooney at ndsu.edu
Enterprise Computing & Infrastructure                  701-231-1076 (Voice)
Room 242-J6, Quentin Burdick Building                  701-231-8541 (Fax)
North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105-5164


From jdg117 at elvis.arl.psu.edu  Wed Jul 22 20:40:01 2015
From: jdg117 at elvis.arl.psu.edu (John D Groenveld)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 16:40:01 -0400
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:35:25 CDT."
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	<20150721183927.GA2323@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiS1=QOko8ju6y_UJ7c6FkauUkbRxFU1kNC49OZgex99WA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKr4wiQjQ3+9+GrGZNVcx0m7C6tpoORb3HytNOT91Wc52pGjcQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKr4wiRjNB6rYyQngA=J5vG9QdECYfGkccWZgS1hTA-UseuwJQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.SOC.2.11.1507221333470.25810@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu>
Message-ID: <201507222040.t6MKe1Ek014005@elvis.arl.psu.edu>

In message <alpine.SOC.2.11.1507221333470.25810 at dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu>, Tim
 Mooney writes:
>We use it for every bit of our (Linux) email infrastructure, and I'm
>certainly using sendmail on OI.  It's still the gold standard, even if
>RHEL and other Linux distros are moving away from it.

The same version included with the OP's oi_151a8 logs 
fine out of the box with OmniOS.

John
groenveld at acm.org



From gary_mills at fastmail.fm  Wed Jul 22 21:58:42 2015
From: gary_mills at fastmail.fm (Gary Mills)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 16:58:42 -0500
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <201507222040.t6MKe1Ek014005@elvis.arl.psu.edu>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721125245.GA713@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiQDk1eVPzYVhUyqTQJXiBGjypOdVce8PVwmD=nuv4CYPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721183927.GA2323@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiS1=QOko8ju6y_UJ7c6FkauUkbRxFU1kNC49OZgex99WA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKr4wiQjQ3+9+GrGZNVcx0m7C6tpoORb3HytNOT91Wc52pGjcQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKr4wiRjNB6rYyQngA=J5vG9QdECYfGkccWZgS1hTA-UseuwJQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.SOC.2.11.1507221333470.25810@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu>
	<201507222040.t6MKe1Ek014005@elvis.arl.psu.edu>
Message-ID: <20150722215842.GA10417@mail.messagingengine.com>

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 04:40:01PM -0400, John D Groenveld wrote:
> In message <alpine.SOC.2.11.1507221333470.25810 at dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu>, Tim
>  Mooney writes:
> >We use it for every bit of our (Linux) email infrastructure, and I'm
> >certainly using sendmail on OI.  It's still the gold standard, even if
> >RHEL and other Linux distros are moving away from it.
> 
> The same version included with the OP's oi_151a8 logs 
> fine out of the box with OmniOS.

I suppose another test would be to use logger to send to the mail
facility, like this:

    $ logger -p mail.info -t test 'This is a test message'

-- 
-Gary Mills-		-refurb-		-Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada-


From t12nslookup at gmail.com  Wed Jul 22 22:05:12 2015
From: t12nslookup at gmail.com (Jonathan Adams)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 23:05:12 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <20150722215842.GA10417@mail.messagingengine.com>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721125245.GA713@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiQDk1eVPzYVhUyqTQJXiBGjypOdVce8PVwmD=nuv4CYPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721183927.GA2323@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiS1=QOko8ju6y_UJ7c6FkauUkbRxFU1kNC49OZgex99WA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKr4wiQjQ3+9+GrGZNVcx0m7C6tpoORb3HytNOT91Wc52pGjcQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKr4wiRjNB6rYyQngA=J5vG9QdECYfGkccWZgS1hTA-UseuwJQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.SOC.2.11.1507221333470.25810@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu>
	<201507222040.t6MKe1Ek014005@elvis.arl.psu.edu>
	<20150722215842.GA10417@mail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <CAKr4wiRLgxgQ_CfDL4ufhGyQ=8=Ct6DCR-u2aAScHuEhFXgtsg@mail.gmail.com>

I used logger early in my tests, it works as expected. Strangely if I run
sendmail manually it love as mail.info
On 22 Jul 2015 22:59, "Gary Mills" <gary_mills at fastmail.fm> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 04:40:01PM -0400, John D Groenveld wrote:
> > In message <
> alpine.SOC.2.11.1507221333470.25810 at dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu>, Tim
> >  Mooney writes:
> > >We use it for every bit of our (Linux) email infrastructure, and I'm
> > >certainly using sendmail on OI.  It's still the gold standard, even if
> > >RHEL and other Linux distros are moving away from it.
> >
> > The same version included with the OP's oi_151a8 logs
> > fine out of the box with OmniOS.
>
> I suppose another test would be to use logger to send to the mail
> facility, like this:
>
>     $ logger -p mail.info -t test 'This is a test message'
>
> --
> -Gary Mills-            -refurb-                -Winnipeg, Manitoba,
> Canada-
>
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>

From gary_mills at fastmail.fm  Wed Jul 22 22:19:25 2015
From: gary_mills at fastmail.fm (Gary Mills)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:19:25 -0500
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <CAKr4wiRLgxgQ_CfDL4ufhGyQ=8=Ct6DCR-u2aAScHuEhFXgtsg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20150721125245.GA713@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiQDk1eVPzYVhUyqTQJXiBGjypOdVce8PVwmD=nuv4CYPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721183927.GA2323@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiS1=QOko8ju6y_UJ7c6FkauUkbRxFU1kNC49OZgex99WA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKr4wiQjQ3+9+GrGZNVcx0m7C6tpoORb3HytNOT91Wc52pGjcQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKr4wiRjNB6rYyQngA=J5vG9QdECYfGkccWZgS1hTA-UseuwJQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.SOC.2.11.1507221333470.25810@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu>
	<201507222040.t6MKe1Ek014005@elvis.arl.psu.edu>
	<20150722215842.GA10417@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiRLgxgQ_CfDL4ufhGyQ=8=Ct6DCR-u2aAScHuEhFXgtsg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150722221925.GA10479@mail.messagingengine.com>

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:05:12PM +0100, Jonathan Adams wrote:
> I used logger early in my tests, it works as expected. Strangely if I run
> sendmail manually it love as mail.info

Something's wrong with sendmail's environment.  Here's how mine looks:

# ps -fp 2206,2208
     UID   PID  PPID   C    STIME TTY         TIME CMD
    root  2206     1   0   Jun 26 ?           0:36 /usr/lib/sendmail -bd -q15m
   smmsp  2208     1   0   Jun 26 ?           0:03 /usr/lib/sendmail -Ac -q15m
# pcred 2206 2208
2206:	e/r/suid=0  egid=25 rgid=0 sgid=25
	groups: 25
2208:	e/r/suid=25  e/r/sgid=25
# getent passwd 25
smmsp:x:25:25:SendMail Message Submission Program:/:
# getent group 25 
smmsp::25:

-- 
-Gary Mills-		-refurb-		-Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada-


From sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us  Wed Jul 22 22:56:44 2015
From: sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us (Jerry Kemp)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:56:44 -0500
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <CAKr4wiRjNB6rYyQngA=J5vG9QdECYfGkccWZgS1hTA-UseuwJQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>	<20150721125245.GA713@mail.messagingengine.com>	<CAKr4wiQDk1eVPzYVhUyqTQJXiBGjypOdVce8PVwmD=nuv4CYPQ@mail.gmail.com>	<20150721183927.GA2323@mail.messagingengine.com>	<CAKr4wiS1=QOko8ju6y_UJ7c6FkauUkbRxFU1kNC49OZgex99WA@mail.gmail.com>	<CAKr4wiQjQ3+9+GrGZNVcx0m7C6tpoORb3HytNOT91Wc52pGjcQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKr4wiRjNB6rYyQngA=J5vG9QdECYfGkccWZgS1hTA-UseuwJQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55B01FAC.70805@oryx.us>

I use sendmail every day on a multitude of hosts.

I would also 2nd the comment made by an earlier poster concerning an in-house 
compile.

For basic, low level apps, it fine to use OS provided packages.

But for more complex and customizable apps (i.e. Apache httpd, Sendmail, 
Proftpd, BIND DNS server, etc), no OS provided package is going to come compiled 
with the specific customizations and compile time options that I want/need for 
my environment.

Jerry



On 07/22/15 07:25 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote:
> cr*p ... I edited syslog to log _everything_
>
> sendmail is logging to "daemon.info", not "mail.info" ... at least I can
> get it fixed.
>
> I'm not sure if anyone else even uses sendmail nowadays, but that adding "
> daemon.info" to the mail.info/debug line should get it working for you.
>
> Jon
>


From t12nslookup at gmail.com  Wed Jul 22 23:08:18 2015
From: t12nslookup at gmail.com (Jonathan Adams)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 00:08:18 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <55B01FAC.70805@oryx.us>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721125245.GA713@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiQDk1eVPzYVhUyqTQJXiBGjypOdVce8PVwmD=nuv4CYPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721183927.GA2323@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiS1=QOko8ju6y_UJ7c6FkauUkbRxFU1kNC49OZgex99WA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKr4wiQjQ3+9+GrGZNVcx0m7C6tpoORb3HytNOT91Wc52pGjcQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKr4wiRjNB6rYyQngA=J5vG9QdECYfGkccWZgS1hTA-UseuwJQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<55B01FAC.70805@oryx.us>
Message-ID: <CAKr4wiTJmzinJYcY0oG=cseabCUo=YO7YXS5JwnEP7Beby6jRA@mail.gmail.com>

I used to always have hand compiled everything, but my efforts with
managing a large number of servers and workstations made me try to use
maintained packages where possible. Systems are easier to rebuild/replace
if you are relying on standard packages and repositories.

In my opinion the maintained packages should be the best they can be and if
I have to compile things myself it is a failure, so much so that I try to
communicate with the package maintainers when a package needs extra
work/options.

Jon
On 22 Jul 2015 23:57, "Jerry Kemp" <sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us> wrote:

> I use sendmail every day on a multitude of hosts.
>
> I would also 2nd the comment made by an earlier poster concerning an
> in-house compile.
>
> For basic, low level apps, it fine to use OS provided packages.
>
> But for more complex and customizable apps (i.e. Apache httpd, Sendmail,
> Proftpd, BIND DNS server, etc), no OS provided package is going to come
> compiled with the specific customizations and compile time options that I
> want/need for my environment.
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
> On 07/22/15 07:25 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote:
>
>> cr*p ... I edited syslog to log _everything_
>>
>> sendmail is logging to "daemon.info", not "mail.info" ... at least I can
>> get it fixed.
>>
>> I'm not sure if anyone else even uses sendmail nowadays, but that adding "
>> daemon.info" to the mail.info/debug line should get it working for you.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>

From carl at bl.echidna.id.au  Wed Jul 22 23:31:23 2015
From: carl at bl.echidna.id.au (Carl Brewer)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 09:31:23 +1000
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Virtualbox on hipster
In-Reply-To: <CF23E4F7-F814-453C-9CB5-A7ADE32C0387@cos.ru>
References: <55A02997.30103@willows7.myzen.co.uk>
	<6D2BB451-8FE5-4DC0-A84F-3F560E56955D@cos.ru>
	<55AEE4F3.2050000@bl.echidna.id.au>
	<CF23E4F7-F814-453C-9CB5-A7ADE32C0387@cos.ru>
Message-ID: <55B027CB.5050309@bl.echidna.id.au>

On 22/07/2015 3:24 PM, Jim Klimov wrote:

> Essentially, the changes are needed to have the script install/uninstall usb drivers (you can force networking by a touchfile).
>
> If you never used these - you can probably get away with default packages.

So if it's been "just working" for the last forever, it will probably 
continue to do so without breaking anything?

>
> Instructions are in the readme on github project.

Thanks Jim!

>
> --
> Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android
>



From sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us  Wed Jul 22 23:51:50 2015
From: sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us (Jerry Kemp)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 18:51:50 -0500
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <CAKr4wiTJmzinJYcY0oG=cseabCUo=YO7YXS5JwnEP7Beby6jRA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>	<20150721125245.GA713@mail.messagingengine.com>	<CAKr4wiQDk1eVPzYVhUyqTQJXiBGjypOdVce8PVwmD=nuv4CYPQ@mail.gmail.com>	<20150721183927.GA2323@mail.messagingengine.com>	<CAKr4wiS1=QOko8ju6y_UJ7c6FkauUkbRxFU1kNC49OZgex99WA@mail.gmail.com>	<CAKr4wiQjQ3+9+GrGZNVcx0m7C6tpoORb3HytNOT91Wc52pGjcQ@mail.gmail.com>	<CAKr4wiRjNB6rYyQngA=J5vG9QdECYfGkccWZgS1hTA-UseuwJQ@mail.gmail.com>	<55B01FAC.70805@oryx.us>
	<CAKr4wiTJmzinJYcY0oG=cseabCUo=YO7YXS5JwnEP7Beby6jRA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55B02C96.3060701@oryx.us>

I'm not necessarily recompiling for every box.  Should have made that more clear 
in my earlier note.

I get a good compile, make a package, then stick it on the Jumpstart or AI 
server and I am good to go.

Regardless of the quality of OS provided packages, if compile time options you 
require are not there, its pretty much a necessity to build your own.

Jerry


On 07/22/15 06:08 PM, Jonathan Adams wrote:
> I used to always have hand compiled everything, but my efforts with
> managing a large number of servers and workstations made me try to use
> maintained packages where possible. Systems are easier to rebuild/replace
> if you are relying on standard packages and repositories.
>
> In my opinion the maintained packages should be the best they can be and if
> I have to compile things myself it is a failure, so much so that I try to
> communicate with the package maintainers when a package needs extra
> work/options.
>
> Jon


From jimklimov at cos.ru  Thu Jul 23 06:14:42 2015
From: jimklimov at cos.ru (Jim Klimov)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 08:14:42 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Virtualbox on hipster
In-Reply-To: <55B027CB.5050309@bl.echidna.id.au>
References: <55A02997.30103@willows7.myzen.co.uk>
	<6D2BB451-8FE5-4DC0-A84F-3F560E56955D@cos.ru>
	<55AEE4F3.2050000@bl.echidna.id.au>
	<CF23E4F7-F814-453C-9CB5-A7ADE32C0387@cos.ru>
	<55B027CB.5050309@bl.echidna.id.au>
Message-ID: <8635939C-AB58-43E5-8188-C2AF34FC4757@cos.ru>

23 ???? 2015??. 1:31:23 CEST, Carl Brewer <carl at bl.echidna.id.au> ?????:
>On 22/07/2015 3:24 PM, Jim Klimov wrote:
>
>> Essentially, the changes are needed to have the script
>install/uninstall usb drivers (you can force networking by a
>touchfile).
>>
>> If you never used these - you can probably get away with default
>packages.
>
>So if it's been "just working" for the last forever, it will probably 
>continue to do so without breaking anything?
>
>>
>> Instructions are in the readme on github project.
>
>Thanks Jim!
>
>>
>> --
>> Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android
>>

It depends. Over time there are changes both to script logic and to ways OSes present themselves (there's half a dozen known 'standard' FMRI patterns recognized in the script, and that's just for the post-SVR4 distros of OpenSolaris and newer).

If the script does not come to a conclusion, it aborts.

So it is not granted that over time it will continue 'just working' as you get new releases of both OSes and VBox. :)

Jim

--
Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android


From geoffn at gnaa.net  Thu Jul 23 19:31:07 2015
From: geoffn at gnaa.net (Geoff Nordli)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:31:07 -0700
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Virtualbox on hipster
In-Reply-To: <8635939C-AB58-43E5-8188-C2AF34FC4757@cos.ru>
References: <55A02997.30103@willows7.myzen.co.uk>	<6D2BB451-8FE5-4DC0-A84F-3F560E56955D@cos.ru>	<55AEE4F3.2050000@bl.echidna.id.au>	<CF23E4F7-F814-453C-9CB5-A7ADE32C0387@cos.ru>	<55B027CB.5050309@bl.echidna.id.au>
	<8635939C-AB58-43E5-8188-C2AF34FC4757@cos.ru>
Message-ID: <55B140FB.2000509@gnaa.net>

On 15-07-22 11:14 PM, Jim Klimov wrote:
> 23 ???? 2015 ?. 1:31:23 CEST, Carl Brewer <carl at bl.echidna.id.au> ?????:
>> On 22/07/2015 3:24 PM, Jim Klimov wrote:
>>
>>> Essentially, the changes are needed to have the script
>> install/uninstall usb drivers (you can force networking by a
>> touchfile).
>>> If you never used these - you can probably get away with default
>> packages.
>>
>> So if it's been "just working" for the last forever, it will probably
>> continue to do so without breaking anything?
>>
>>> Instructions are in the readme on github project.
>> Thanks Jim!
>>
>>> --
>>> Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android
>>>
> It depends. Over time there are changes both to script logic and to ways OSes present themselves (there's half a dozen known 'standard' FMRI patterns recognized in the script, and that's just for the post-SVR4 distros of OpenSolaris and newer).
>
> If the script does not come to a conclusion, it aborts.
>
> So it is not granted that over time it will continue 'just working' as you get new releases of both OSes and VBox. :)
>
> Jim
>

Hi Jim.

I watch the vbox-dev list and I noticed you were working on getting 
illumos based distros better supported, which is great, and thank you 
for that!!!

Does this include getting the crossbow networking module working as 
well?   The discussion seemed to indicate that, but I am not sure.

thanks,

Geoff






From jimklimov at cos.ru  Thu Jul 23 20:17:55 2015
From: jimklimov at cos.ru (Jim Klimov)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 22:17:55 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Virtualbox on hipster
In-Reply-To: <55B140FB.2000509@gnaa.net>
References: <55A02997.30103@willows7.myzen.co.uk>
	<6D2BB451-8FE5-4DC0-A84F-3F560E56955D@cos.ru>
	<55AEE4F3.2050000@bl.echidna.id.au>
	<CF23E4F7-F814-453C-9CB5-A7ADE32C0387@cos.ru>
	<55B027CB.5050309@bl.echidna.id.au>
	<8635939C-AB58-43E5-8188-C2AF34FC4757@cos.ru>
	<55B140FB.2000509@gnaa.net>
Message-ID: <314BFC50-24AC-4AC5-AFDF-3391165365C2@cos.ru>

23 ???? 2015??. 21:31:07 CEST, Geoff Nordli <geoffn at gnaa.net> ?????:
>On 15-07-22 11:14 PM, Jim Klimov wrote:
>> 23 ???? 2015 ?. 1:31:23 CEST, Carl Brewer <carl at bl.echidna.id.au>
>?????:
>>> On 22/07/2015 3:24 PM, Jim Klimov wrote:
>>>
>>>> Essentially, the changes are needed to have the script
>>> install/uninstall usb drivers (you can force networking by a
>>> touchfile).
>>>> If you never used these - you can probably get away with default
>>> packages.
>>>
>>> So if it's been "just working" for the last forever, it will
>probably
>>> continue to do so without breaking anything?
>>>
>>>> Instructions are in the readme on github project.
>>> Thanks Jim!
>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android
>>>>
>> It depends. Over time there are changes both to script logic and to
>ways OSes present themselves (there's half a dozen known 'standard'
>FMRI patterns recognized in the script, and that's just for the
>post-SVR4 distros of OpenSolaris and newer).
>>
>> If the script does not come to a conclusion, it aborts.
>>
>> So it is not granted that over time it will continue 'just working'
>as you get new releases of both OSes and VBox. :)
>>
>> Jim
>>
>
>Hi Jim.
>
>I watch the vbox-dev list and I noticed you were working on getting 
>illumos based distros better supported, which is great, and thank you 
>for that!!!
>
>Does this include getting the crossbow networking module working as 
>well?   The discussion seemed to indicate that, but I am not sure.
>
>thanks,
>
>Geoff
>
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>openindiana-discuss mailing list
>openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss

Sorry, no, I am not that much of a developer to desearch or fix that ;)

I hope to integrate at least some of those fixes I apply to vboxconfig.sh script so I no longer have to edit the package in order to update it along with usbfilter and illumos-compatible networking drivers. 

Egoism and laziness are great drivers of progress, ain't they? Well, and good-heartesness helps too ;)

Jim
--
Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android


From gary_mills at fastmail.fm  Fri Jul 24 02:00:25 2015
From: gary_mills at fastmail.fm (Gary Mills)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 21:00:25 -0500
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <201507222040.t6MKe1Ek014005@elvis.arl.psu.edu>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721125245.GA713@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiQDk1eVPzYVhUyqTQJXiBGjypOdVce8PVwmD=nuv4CYPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721183927.GA2323@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiS1=QOko8ju6y_UJ7c6FkauUkbRxFU1kNC49OZgex99WA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKr4wiQjQ3+9+GrGZNVcx0m7C6tpoORb3HytNOT91Wc52pGjcQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKr4wiRjNB6rYyQngA=J5vG9QdECYfGkccWZgS1hTA-UseuwJQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.SOC.2.11.1507221333470.25810@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu>
	<201507222040.t6MKe1Ek014005@elvis.arl.psu.edu>
Message-ID: <20150724020025.GA20224@mail.messagingengine.com>

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 04:40:01PM -0400, John D Groenveld wrote:
> In message <alpine.SOC.2.11.1507221333470.25810 at dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu>, Tim
>  Mooney writes:
> >We use it for every bit of our (Linux) email infrastructure, and I'm
> >certainly using sendmail on OI.  It's still the gold standard, even if
> >RHEL and other Linux distros are moving away from it.
> 
> The same version included with the OP's oi_151a8 logs 
> fine out of the box with OmniOS.

Does sendmail only misbehave in a non-global zone?  If not, maybe
something else is responsible for the peculiar logging.

I'd recommend filing a bug report at illumos.org for this behavior
that you've noticed.  That way, somebody else can investigate further.

-- 
-Gary Mills-		-refurb-		-Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada-


From geoffn at gnaa.net  Fri Jul 24 06:26:14 2015
From: geoffn at gnaa.net (Geoff Nordli)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 23:26:14 -0700
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Virtualbox on hipster
In-Reply-To: <314BFC50-24AC-4AC5-AFDF-3391165365C2@cos.ru>
References: <55A02997.30103@willows7.myzen.co.uk>
	<6D2BB451-8FE5-4DC0-A84F-3F560E56955D@cos.ru>
	<55AEE4F3.2050000@bl.echidna.id.au>
	<CF23E4F7-F814-453C-9CB5-A7ADE32C0387@cos.ru>
	<55B027CB.5050309@bl.echidna.id.au>
	<8635939C-AB58-43E5-8188-C2AF34FC4757@cos.ru>
	<55B140FB.2000509@gnaa.net>
	<314BFC50-24AC-4AC5-AFDF-3391165365C2@cos.ru>
Message-ID: <55B1DA86.3060909@gnaa.net>

On 15-07-23 01:17 PM, Jim Klimov wrote:
> 23 ???? 2015 ?. 21:31:07 CEST, Geoff Nordli <geoffn at gnaa.net> ?????:
>> On 15-07-22 11:14 PM, Jim Klimov wrote:
>>> 23 ???? 2015 ?. 1:31:23 CEST, Carl Brewer <carl at bl.echidna.id.au>
>> ?????:
>>>> On 22/07/2015 3:24 PM, Jim Klimov wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Essentially, the changes are needed to have the script
>>>> install/uninstall usb drivers (you can force networking by a
>>>> touchfile).
>>>>> If you never used these - you can probably get away with default
>>>> packages.
>>>>
>>>> So if it's been "just working" for the last forever, it will
>> probably
>>>> continue to do so without breaking anything?
>>>>
>>>>> Instructions are in the readme on github project.
>>>> Thanks Jim!
>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android
>>>>>
>>> It depends. Over time there are changes both to script logic and to
>> ways OSes present themselves (there's half a dozen known 'standard'
>> FMRI patterns recognized in the script, and that's just for the
>> post-SVR4 distros of OpenSolaris and newer).
>>> If the script does not come to a conclusion, it aborts.
>>>
>>> So it is not granted that over time it will continue 'just working'
>> as you get new releases of both OSes and VBox. :)
>>> Jim
>>>
>> Hi Jim.
>>
>> I watch the vbox-dev list and I noticed you were working on getting
>> illumos based distros better supported, which is great, and thank you
>> for that!!!
>>
>> Does this include getting the crossbow networking module working as
>> well?   The discussion seemed to indicate that, but I am not sure.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> openindiana-discuss mailing list
>> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
> Sorry, no, I am not that much of a developer to desearch or fix that ;)
>
> I hope to integrate at least some of those fixes I apply to vboxconfig.sh script so I no longer have to edit the package in order to update it along with usbfilter and illumos-compatible networking drivers.
>
> Egoism and laziness are great drivers of progress, ain't they? Well, and good-heartesness helps too ;)
>
>

OK, I guess it was just wishful thinking on the crossbow side of things.

Thanks for your work with vbox and illumos!!

Geoff




From t12nslookup at gmail.com  Fri Jul 24 08:23:27 2015
From: t12nslookup at gmail.com (Jonathan Adams)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 09:23:27 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sendmail logging
In-Reply-To: <20150724020025.GA20224@mail.messagingengine.com>
References: <CAKr4wiTxZ=4GzWQSu_9mszqtgjyufcd3xb3xBbyCa1c1U6=fAg@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721125245.GA713@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiQDk1eVPzYVhUyqTQJXiBGjypOdVce8PVwmD=nuv4CYPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150721183927.GA2323@mail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAKr4wiS1=QOko8ju6y_UJ7c6FkauUkbRxFU1kNC49OZgex99WA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKr4wiQjQ3+9+GrGZNVcx0m7C6tpoORb3HytNOT91Wc52pGjcQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKr4wiRjNB6rYyQngA=J5vG9QdECYfGkccWZgS1hTA-UseuwJQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.SOC.2.11.1507221333470.25810@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu>
	<201507222040.t6MKe1Ek014005@elvis.arl.psu.edu>
	<20150724020025.GA20224@mail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <CAKr4wiSuEQjgVetknQLq9AUZt5My++yVdnELc=gTR9XH+9VWJA@mail.gmail.com>

no it's global as well as non-global, but I've only tested in 151a8, I
don't have a hipster available to check at the moment, and it might well
have been fixed in that.

On 24 July 2015 at 03:00, Gary Mills <gary_mills at fastmail.fm> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 04:40:01PM -0400, John D Groenveld wrote:
> > In message <
> alpine.SOC.2.11.1507221333470.25810 at dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu>, Tim
> >  Mooney writes:
> > >We use it for every bit of our (Linux) email infrastructure, and I'm
> > >certainly using sendmail on OI.  It's still the gold standard, even if
> > >RHEL and other Linux distros are moving away from it.
> >
> > The same version included with the OP's oi_151a8 logs
> > fine out of the box with OmniOS.
>
> Does sendmail only misbehave in a non-global zone?  If not, maybe
> something else is responsible for the peculiar logging.
>
> I'd recommend filing a bug report at illumos.org for this behavior
> that you've noticed.  That way, somebody else can investigate further.
>
> --
> -Gary Mills-            -refurb-                -Winnipeg, Manitoba,
> Canada-
>
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>

From jdg117 at elvis.arl.psu.edu  Fri Jul 24 13:28:41 2015
From: jdg117 at elvis.arl.psu.edu (John D Groenveld)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 09:28:41 -0400
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Virtualbox on hipster
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 23 Jul 2015 23:26:14 PDT."
	<55B1DA86.3060909@gnaa.net> 
References: <55A02997.30103@willows7.myzen.co.uk>
	<6D2BB451-8FE5-4DC0-A84F-3F560E56955D@cos.ru>
	<55AEE4F3.2050000@bl.echidna.id.au>
	<CF23E4F7-F814-453C-9CB5-A7ADE32C0387@cos.ru>
	<55B027CB.5050309@bl.echidna.id.au>
	<8635939C-AB58-43E5-8188-C2AF34FC4757@cos.ru>
	<55B140FB.2000509@gnaa.net>
	<314BFC50-24AC-4AC5-AFDF-3391165365C2@cos.ru>
	<55B1DA86.3060909@gnaa.net> 
Message-ID: <201507241328.t6ODSfnq020916@elvis.arl.psu.edu>

In message <55B1DA86.3060909 at gnaa.net>, Geoff Nordli writes:
>OK, I guess it was just wishful thinking on the crossbow side of things.

What happens under OI when you assign a Crossbox VNIC as
a VBox bridged adapter?

John
groenveld at acm.org


From geoffn at gnaa.net  Fri Jul 24 16:29:37 2015
From: geoffn at gnaa.net (Geoff Nordli)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 09:29:37 -0700
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Virtualbox on hipster
In-Reply-To: <201507241328.t6ODSfnq020916@elvis.arl.psu.edu>
References: <55A02997.30103@willows7.myzen.co.uk>	<6D2BB451-8FE5-4DC0-A84F-3F560E56955D@cos.ru>	<55AEE4F3.2050000@bl.echidna.id.au>	<CF23E4F7-F814-453C-9CB5-A7ADE32C0387@cos.ru>	<55B027CB.5050309@bl.echidna.id.au>	<8635939C-AB58-43E5-8188-C2AF34FC4757@cos.ru>	<55B140FB.2000509@gnaa.net>	<314BFC50-24AC-4AC5-AFDF-3391165365C2@cos.ru>	<55B1DA86.3060909@gnaa.net>
	<201507241328.t6ODSfnq020916@elvis.arl.psu.edu>
Message-ID: <55B267F1.7030203@gnaa.net>

On 15-07-24 06:28 AM, John D Groenveld wrote:
> In message <55B1DA86.3060909 at gnaa.net>, Geoff Nordli writes:
>> OK, I guess it was just wishful thinking on the crossbow side of things.
> What happens under OI when you assign a Crossbox VNIC as
> a VBox bridged adapter?
>
>

John, it works fine, you just need to manually match the vnic's mac 
address with the mac address of the bridged vbox adapter.

It is more about ditching the older streams based driver for the newer 
model.  I have no clue how much of a performance gain that would be.

have a great day!!

Geoff



From bentahyr at chez.com  Mon Jul 27 03:56:33 2015
From: bentahyr at chez.com (bentahyr at chez.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:56:33 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance
In-Reply-To: <636628163.11468329.1437969198723.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
Message-ID: <1575855920.11470826.1437969393503.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>

Hi,

I always found the performance of USB devices connected to OI behind other OS.
Is it related to the implementation or is it just me (oi159a) ?

For example, same drive transfer (one big file) is :
- 8MB/s on OI
- 45MB/s on Linux/Windows

Ben


From bentahyr at chez.com  Mon Jul 27 04:00:21 2015
From: bentahyr at chez.com (bentahyr at chez.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 06:00:21 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance
In-Reply-To: <1575855920.11470826.1437969393503.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
Message-ID: <1859550137.11473496.1437969621960.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>

I redid the test, it is more around 30-35 MB/s on other OS's actually.

----- Mail original -----
De: bentahyr at chez.com
?: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org>
Envoy?: Lundi 27 Juillet 2015 15:56:33
Objet: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance

Hi,

I always found the performance of USB devices connected to OI behind other OS.
Is it related to the implementation or is it just me (oi159a) ?

For example, same drive transfer (one big file) is :
- 8MB/s on OI
- 45MB/s on Linux/Windows

Ben

_______________________________________________
openindiana-discuss mailing list
openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss


From aurelien.larcher at gmail.com  Mon Jul 27 04:08:25 2015
From: aurelien.larcher at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Aur=E9lien?= Larcher)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 04:08:25 +0000
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance
In-Reply-To: <1859550137.11473496.1437969621960.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
References: <1575855920.11470826.1437969393503.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
	<1859550137.11473496.1437969621960.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
Message-ID: <d3ig0m.ns4ou6.1hge160-qmf@smtp.gmail.com>

I guess it depends which filesystem you are using, but for FAT yes definitely.
Maybe just a matter of block size in this case.
Also make sure that USB2 is actually used, I found Solaris/illumos to fallback to USB1 on several occasions.

Aur?lien

? lun. juil. 27 06:00:21 2015 GMT+0200, bentahyr at chez.com a ?crit :
> I redid the test, it is more around 30-35 MB/s on other OS's actually.
> 
> ----- Mail original -----
> De: bentahyr at chez.com
> ?: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org>
> Envoy?: Lundi 27 Juillet 2015 15:56:33
> Objet: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I always found the performance of USB devices connected to OI behind other OS.
> Is it related to the implementation or is it just me (oi159a) ?
> 
> For example, same drive transfer (one big file) is :
> - 8MB/s on OI
> - 45MB/s on Linux/Windows
> 
> Ben
> 
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
> 
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>

From bentahyr at chez.com  Mon Jul 27 04:24:44 2015
From: bentahyr at chez.com (bentahyr at chez.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 06:24:44 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance
In-Reply-To: <d3ig0m.ns4ou6.1hge160-qmf@smtp.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <948554123.11496322.1437971084024.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>

Thanks for the FAT trick.
I don't remember when the disk used to be NTFS, 1 or 2 years ago. I had to reformat it for compatibility issues with shiny hardware I don't manage.

I'll try to reformat it to NTFS and see how it goes.

Best regards.
Ben

----- Mail original -----
De: "Aur?lien Larcher" <aurelien.larcher at gmail.com>
?: openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
Envoy?: Lundi 27 Juillet 2015 16:08:25
Objet: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance

I guess it depends which filesystem you are using, but for FAT yes definitely.
Maybe just a matter of block size in this case.
Also make sure that USB2 is actually used, I found Solaris/illumos to fallback to USB1 on several occasions.

Aur?lien

? lun. juil. 27 06:00:21 2015 GMT+0200, bentahyr at chez.com a ?crit :
> I redid the test, it is more around 30-35 MB/s on other OS's actually.
> 
> ----- Mail original -----
> De: bentahyr at chez.com
> ?: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org>
> Envoy?: Lundi 27 Juillet 2015 15:56:33
> Objet: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I always found the performance of USB devices connected to OI behind other OS.
> Is it related to the implementation or is it just me (oi159a) ?
> 
> For example, same drive transfer (one big file) is :
> - 8MB/s on OI
> - 45MB/s on Linux/Windows
> 
> Ben
> 
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
> 
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>
_______________________________________________
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openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss


From asyropoulos at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 27 07:48:24 2015
From: asyropoulos at yahoo.com (Apostolos Syropoulos)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 00:48:24 -0700
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] =?utf-8?b?zqPPh861z4Q6IFJlOiAgVVNCIDIgcGVy?=
 =?utf-8?q?formance?=
In-Reply-To: <948554123.11496322.1437971084024.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
Message-ID: <1437983304.64816.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web310004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Wait a moment! The problem is indeed related to the FAT32 implementation (so sad noone took over the task to improve the code but then Solaris drivers are unnecessary complicated) but who said there is an NTFS driver? You have to use fuse to mount NTFS formated disks and I have no idea how to ebable automount with such a setup.


A.S.

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From asyropoulos at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 27 07:48:24 2015
From: asyropoulos at yahoo.com (Apostolos Syropoulos)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 00:48:24 -0700
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] =?utf-8?b?zqPPh861z4Q6IFJlOiAgVVNCIDIgcGVy?=
 =?utf-8?q?formance?=
In-Reply-To: <948554123.11496322.1437971084024.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
Message-ID: <1437983304.64816.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web310004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Wait a moment! The problem is indeed related to the FAT32 implementation (so sad noone took over the task to improve the code but then Solaris drivers are unnecessary complicated) but who said there is an NTFS driver? You have to use fuse to mount NTFS formated disks and I have no idea how to ebable automount with such a setup.


A.S.

???????? ??? ?? ??????????? Yahoo ??? Android


From aurelien.larcher at gmail.com  Mon Jul 27 23:01:15 2015
From: aurelien.larcher at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien_Larcher?=)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 01:01:15 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Hipster News 2015W31: First issue !
Message-ID: <CAHMq6q2Ag9H4_gcWWbUXU1RahHA2-Yf6Min4kopc8i_B22SVPQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
this message is the first instance of the Hipster News Bi-weekly.

Every two weeks, we will try to give a comprehensive overview of the recent
progress:

- developments,
- new and updated packages,
- current known issues,
- works-in-progress and future goals.

This will hopefully allow you to get better understanding of the current
activity and give you the opportunity to provide insights and feedback.
We will also post these news to a blog entry (yet to be defined).

There has been a lot of activity in the past weeks in oi-userland [1],
summarized below: most notable being the encumbered repository.



1. Hipster encumbered repository

The encumbered repository for Hipster [2] was created to provide multimedia
software which used to be part of sfe-encumbered.
As a first step ffmpeg 2.7.2 and dependencies were added.

You can find a list of components which ought to be added in the coming
weeks, on the Wiki page [3].

Contributing new components is as easy as:

- forking + cloning the oi-userland repository,
- copying one subdirectory of components/encumbered to get started,
- modify the Makefile and add patches if necessary such that ?gmake
install? succeeds,
- generating a manifest with ?gmake sample-manifest? and modifying it if
necessary,
- creating a pull-request.



2. Summary of oi-userland activity

Additions:

- encumbered: ffmpeg 2.7.2 + dependent libraries
- openal 1.16.0
- bullet 2.83
- inkscape 0.48.5

Updates:

- Apache 2.4.16
- Lighttpd 1.4.36
- Perl 5.22 (in progress)
- PHP 5.5.27, 5.4.43
- freetype 2.5.5
- libdrm to 2.4.62
- nodejs 0.12.7
- several X11 components and libraries, in sync with x-s12-clone
- Boost 1.58 with MPI support
- Compiz Fusion 8.10

Deprecations:

- Apache 1.3
- MySQL 5.1
- Perl 5.10 (see Heads-up below !)

Current goals:

- add GTK3: requires atk, gobject-introspection update first
- port of LibreOffice 4.4.x: warm thanks to Apostolos Syroupolos for
contributing the librevenge component, any help is appreciated ! [4]
- update Pulseaudio to 6.0: in progress
- add more components to hipster-encumbered, priority being VLC and
gstreamer bad/ugly codecs



 3. Heads-up: Perl 5.10 deprecation

Removal of Perl 5.10 means that default illumos.sh will not work any longer
and you need to add :

 export PERL_VERSION="5.22";
 export PERL_PKGVERS="-522"

to illumos.sh  while compiling illumos-gate.



Thank you for reading us !

[1] https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland
[2] http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-encumbered/
[3] http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Multimedia
[4] http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/LibreOffice

From aurelien.larcher at gmail.com  Tue Jul 28 01:30:03 2015
From: aurelien.larcher at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien_Larcher?=)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 03:30:03 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] LibreOffice: librevenge, libodfgen, libwpd,
	libwpg
Message-ID: <CAHMq6q3POd0xPhft-uHRo+ZHR6zCmMWvsRmnhONgAvvFC99LiA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I submitted the PRs for the aforementioned libraries compiled in 32bit only
as LibreOffice will certainly be their only consumer: they can be added as
64bit later on if needed.

The Wiki was updated accordingly: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/LibreOffice

If someone wants to contribute one of the remaining libs please drop me a
line.
Best

Aurelien

From bentahyr at chez.com  Tue Jul 28 02:08:00 2015
From: bentahyr at chez.com (bentahyr at chez.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 04:08:00 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance
In-Reply-To: <948554123.11496322.1437971084024.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
Message-ID: <1267958900.13812648.1438049280023.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>

I did some test today with another USB drive.
Here are the results :

>From Linux (NTFS)
$ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img of=/media/ben/MD/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
3948544+0?enregistrements lus
3948544+0?enregistrements ?crits
2021654528?octets (2.0 GB) copi?s, 91.5862?s, 22.1 MB/s

>From OI
Jul 28 08:50:42 hostname usba: [ID 912658 kern.info] USB 2.0 device (usb5e3,702) operating at hi speed (USB 2.x) on USB 2.0 root hub: storage at 7, scsa2usb0 at bus address 2
Jul 28 08:50:42 hostname usba: [ID 349649 kern.info]      USB TO IDE
Jul 28 08:50:42 hostname genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] scsa2usb0 is /pci at 0,0/pci1028,21e at 1d,7/storage at 7
Jul 28 08:50:42 hostname genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info] /pci at 0,0/pci1028,21e at 1d,7/storage at 7 (scsa2usb0) online

using NTFS-3g
$ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img of=/mnt/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
3948544+0 records in
3948544+0 records out
2021654528 bytes (2.0 GB) copied, 15867.8 s, 127 kB/s

After reformating to UFS
$ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img of=/mnt/ben/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
3948544+0 records in
3948544+0 records out
2021654528 bytes (2.0 GB) copied, 110.893 s, 18.2 MB/s


Yeah, really, something is wrong with the implementation of FAT/NTFS on OpenIndiana.
Would a more recent NTFS-3G help ? Currently using 2012.1.15AR.8 from SFE.

Ben

----- Mail original -----
De: bentahyr at chez.com
?: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org>
Envoy?: Lundi 27 Juillet 2015 16:24:44
Objet: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance

Thanks for the FAT trick.
I don't remember when the disk used to be NTFS, 1 or 2 years ago. I had to reformat it for compatibility issues with shiny hardware I don't manage.

I'll try to reformat it to NTFS and see how it goes.

Best regards.
Ben

----- Mail original -----
De: "Aur?lien Larcher" <aurelien.larcher at gmail.com>
?: openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
Envoy?: Lundi 27 Juillet 2015 16:08:25
Objet: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance

I guess it depends which filesystem you are using, but for FAT yes definitely.
Maybe just a matter of block size in this case.
Also make sure that USB2 is actually used, I found Solaris/illumos to fallback to USB1 on several occasions.

Aur?lien

? lun. juil. 27 06:00:21 2015 GMT+0200, bentahyr at chez.com a ?crit :
> I redid the test, it is more around 30-35 MB/s on other OS's actually.
> 
> ----- Mail original -----
> De: bentahyr at chez.com
> ?: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org>
> Envoy?: Lundi 27 Juillet 2015 15:56:33
> Objet: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I always found the performance of USB devices connected to OI behind other OS.
> Is it related to the implementation or is it just me (oi159a) ?
> 
> For example, same drive transfer (one big file) is :
> - 8MB/s on OI
> - 45MB/s on Linux/Windows
> 
> Ben
> 


From aurelien.larcher at gmail.com  Tue Jul 28 03:18:13 2015
From: aurelien.larcher at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Aur=E9lien?= Larcher)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 03:18:13 +0000
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance
In-Reply-To: <1267958900.13812648.1438049280023.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
References: <948554123.11496322.1437971084024.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
	<1267958900.13812648.1438049280023.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
Message-ID: <7q8min.ns6h6g.1hge160-qmf@smtp.gmail.com>

Hi,
There is indeed a much newer version of ntfs-3g on Jean-Pierre Andr?'s website: 2015.3.14AR.1.
He posted very good results earlier this year.
Having these in oi-userland is on the TODO list and would be great.
Thanks for your report.
Best,

Aur?lien 

? mar. juil. 28 04:08:00 2015 GMT+0200, bentahyr at chez.com a ?crit :
> I did some test today with another USB drive.
> Here are the results :
> 
> From Linux (NTFS)
> $ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img of=/media/ben/MD/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
> 3948544+0 enregistrements lus
> 3948544+0 enregistrements ?crits
> 2021654528 octets (2.0 GB) copi?s, 91.5862 s, 22.1 MB/s
> 
> From OI
> Jul 28 08:50:42 hostname usba: [ID 912658 kern.info] USB 2.0 device (usb5e3,702) operating at hi speed (USB 2.x) on USB 2.0 root hub: storage at 7, scsa2usb0 at bus address 2
> Jul 28 08:50:42 hostname usba: [ID 349649 kern.info]      USB TO IDE
> Jul 28 08:50:42 hostname genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] scsa2usb0 is /pci at 0,0/pci1028,21e at 1d,7/storage at 7
> Jul 28 08:50:42 hostname genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info] /pci at 0,0/pci1028,21e at 1d,7/storage at 7 (scsa2usb0) online
> 
> using NTFS-3g
> $ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img of=/mnt/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
> 3948544+0 records in
> 3948544+0 records out
> 2021654528 bytes (2.0 GB) copied, 15867.8 s, 127 kB/s
> 
> After reformating to UFS
> $ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img of=/mnt/ben/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
> 3948544+0 records in
> 3948544+0 records out
> 2021654528 bytes (2.0 GB) copied, 110.893 s, 18.2 MB/s
> 
> 
> Yeah, really, something is wrong with the implementation of FAT/NTFS on OpenIndiana.
> Would a more recent NTFS-3G help ? Currently using 2012.1.15AR.8 from SFE.
> 
> Ben
> 
> ----- Mail original -----
> De: bentahyr at chez.com
> ?: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org>
> Envoy?: Lundi 27 Juillet 2015 16:24:44
> Objet: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance
> 
> Thanks for the FAT trick.
> I don't remember when the disk used to be NTFS, 1 or 2 years ago. I had to reformat it for compatibility issues with shiny hardware I don't manage.
> 
> I'll try to reformat it to NTFS and see how it goes.
> 
> Best regards.
> Ben
> 
> ----- Mail original -----
> De: "Aur?lien Larcher" <aurelien.larcher at gmail.com>
> ?: openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> Envoy?: Lundi 27 Juillet 2015 16:08:25
> Objet: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance
> 
> I guess it depends which filesystem you are using, but for FAT yes definitely.
> Maybe just a matter of block size in this case.
> Also make sure that USB2 is actually used, I found Solaris/illumos to fallback to USB1 on several occasions.
> 
> Aur?lien
> 
> ? lun. juil. 27 06:00:21 2015 GMT+0200, bentahyr at chez.com a ?crit :
> > I redid the test, it is more around 30-35 MB/s on other OS's actually.
> > 
> > ----- Mail original -----
> > De: bentahyr at chez.com
> > ?: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org>
> > Envoy?: Lundi 27 Juillet 2015 15:56:33
> > Objet: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I always found the performance of USB devices connected to OI behind other OS.
> > Is it related to the implementation or is it just me (oi159a) ?
> > 
> > For example, same drive transfer (one big file) is :
> > - 8MB/s on OI
> > - 45MB/s on Linux/Windows
> > 
> > Ben
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> openindiana-discuss mailing list
> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>

From jean-pierre.andre at wanadoo.fr  Tue Jul 28 06:19:56 2015
From: jean-pierre.andre at wanadoo.fr (=?UTF-8?Q?Jean-Pierre_Andr=c3=a9?=)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 08:19:56 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance
In-Reply-To: <7q8min.ns6h6g.1hge160-qmf@smtp.gmail.com>
References: <948554123.11496322.1437971084024.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>	<1267958900.13812648.1438049280023.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
	<7q8min.ns6h6g.1hge160-qmf@smtp.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mp76uc$90h$1@ger.gmane.org>

Aur?lien Larcher wrote:
> Hi,
> There is indeed a much newer version of ntfs-3g on Jean-Pierre Andr?'s website: 2015.3.14AR.1.
> He posted very good results earlier this year.
> Having these in oi-userland is on the TODO list and would be great.

The ntfs-3g library is already part of Hipster, only
the fuse interface and fuse itself are missing.

The current bottleneck is the interface between the
vfs and the fuse kernel module for concatenating write
chunks into memory pages.

> Thanks for your report.
> Best,
>
> Aur?lien
>
> ? mar. juil. 28 04:08:00 2015 GMT+0200, bentahyr at chez.com a ?crit :
>> I did some test today with another USB drive.
>> Here are the results :
>>
>>  From Linux (NTFS)
>> $ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img of=/media/ben/MD/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
>> 3948544+0 enregistrements lus
>> 3948544+0 enregistrements ?crits
>> 2021654528 octets (2.0 GB) copi?s, 91.5862 s, 22.1 MB/s
>>
>>  From OI
>> Jul 28 08:50:42 hostname usba: [ID 912658 kern.info] USB 2.0 device (usb5e3,702) operating at hi speed (USB 2.x) on USB 2.0 root hub: storage at 7, scsa2usb0 at bus address 2
>> Jul 28 08:50:42 hostname usba: [ID 349649 kern.info]      USB TO IDE
>> Jul 28 08:50:42 hostname genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] scsa2usb0 is /pci at 0,0/pci1028,21e at 1d,7/storage at 7
>> Jul 28 08:50:42 hostname genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info] /pci at 0,0/pci1028,21e at 1d,7/storage at 7 (scsa2usb0) online
>>
>> using NTFS-3g
>> $ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img of=/mnt/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
>> 3948544+0 records in
>> 3948544+0 records out
>> 2021654528 bytes (2.0 GB) copied, 15867.8 s, 127 kB/s
>>
>> After reformating to UFS
>> $ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img of=/mnt/ben/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
>> 3948544+0 records in
>> 3948544+0 records out
>> 2021654528 bytes (2.0 GB) copied, 110.893 s, 18.2 MB/s
>>
>>
>> Yeah, really, something is wrong with the implementation of FAT/NTFS on OpenIndiana.
>> Would a more recent NTFS-3G help ? Currently using 2012.1.15AR.8 from SFE.

Which version of ntfs-3g were you using and what are
your mount options ? What is the output of "ntfs-3g -help" ?

>>
>> Ben





From jean-pierre.andre at wanadoo.fr  Tue Jul 28 08:16:25 2015
From: jean-pierre.andre at wanadoo.fr (=?UTF-8?Q?Jean-Pierre_Andr=c3=a9?=)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 10:16:25 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance
In-Reply-To: <mp76uc$90h$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <948554123.11496322.1437971084024.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>	<1267958900.13812648.1438049280023.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>	<7q8min.ns6h6g.1hge160-qmf@smtp.gmail.com>
	<mp76uc$90h$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <mp7dop$iu9$1@ger.gmane.org>

Jean-Pierre Andr? wrote:
> Aur?lien Larcher wrote:
>> Hi,

[...]

>>>
>>> using NTFS-3g
>>> $ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
>>> of=/mnt/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
>>> 3948544+0 records in
>>> 3948544+0 records out
>>> 2021654528 bytes (2.0 GB) copied, 15867.8 s, 127 kB/s
>>>
>>> After reformating to UFS
>>> $ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
>>> of=/mnt/ben/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
>>> 3948544+0 records in
>>> 3948544+0 records out
>>> 2021654528 bytes (2.0 GB) copied, 110.893 s, 18.2 MB/s
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, really, something is wrong with the implementation of FAT/NTFS
>>> on OpenIndiana.
>>> Would a more recent NTFS-3G help ? Currently using 2012.1.15AR.8 from
>>> SFE.
>
> Which version of ntfs-3g were you using and what are
> your mount options ? What is the output of "ntfs-3g -help" ?
>

Oh, I forgot : retry dd with option "bs=4096", so that the
fuse kernel module need not concatenate write chunks (the
default block size is 512 for dd).

Jean-Pierre




From bentahyr at chez.com  Wed Jul 29 00:43:49 2015
From: bentahyr at chez.com (bentahyr at chez.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:43:49 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance
In-Reply-To: <mp7dop$iu9$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1342473773.16574599.1438130629570.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>

Hi Jean-Pierre,

I was using 2012.1.15AR.8 from SFE, with no specific option for mount command :
# ntfs-3g -o uid=101 /dev/dsk/c2t0d0p1 /mnt

Since then I switched to the last version available on your website (2015.3.14AR.1), and redid the test, still using the same mount command.
$ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img of=/mnt/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
1412712+0 records in
1412712+0 records out
723308544 bytes (723 MB) copied, 2552.51 s, 283 kB/s
I stopped it as it wasn't necessary to wait 3h

$ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img of=/mnt/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img bs=4096
166643+0 records in
166643+0 records out
682569728 bytes (683 MB) copied, 2360.02 s, 289 kB/s
Stopped as well

Mount with big_writes option
# ntfs-3g -o big_writes,uid=101 /dev/dsk/c2t0d0p1 /mnt
$ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img of=/mnt/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img bs=4096
207578+0 records in
207578+0 records out
850239488 bytes (850 MB) copied, 3691.7 s, 230 kB/s
Stopped as well

Now I format the disk on Win7 to NTFS, 512b rather than defaulting to 4096b
$ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img of=/mnt/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
172937+0 records in
172937+0 records out
708349952 bytes (708 MB) copied, 2367.44 s, 299 kB/s
Stopped as well

I don't really know what to blame, maybe the FUSE stage might the bottleneck here.
Maybe dd is not really the good command to test this as well.
I wanted to test exFAT as weel but I'm running out of time before going off until September.

Ben

----- Mail original -----
De: "Jean-Pierre Andr?" <jean-pierre.andre at wanadoo.fr>
?: openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
Envoy?: Mardi 28 Juillet 2015 20:16:25
Objet: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance

Jean-Pierre Andr? wrote:
> Aur?lien Larcher wrote:
>> Hi,

[...]

>>>
>>> using NTFS-3g
>>> $ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
>>> of=/mnt/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
>>> 3948544+0 records in
>>> 3948544+0 records out
>>> 2021654528 bytes (2.0 GB) copied, 15867.8 s, 127 kB/s
>>>
>>> After reformating to UFS
>>> $ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
>>> of=/mnt/ben/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
>>> 3948544+0 records in
>>> 3948544+0 records out
>>> 2021654528 bytes (2.0 GB) copied, 110.893 s, 18.2 MB/s
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, really, something is wrong with the implementation of FAT/NTFS
>>> on OpenIndiana.
>>> Would a more recent NTFS-3G help ? Currently using 2012.1.15AR.8 from
>>> SFE.
>
> Which version of ntfs-3g were you using and what are
> your mount options ? What is the output of "ntfs-3g -help" ?
>

Oh, I forgot : retry dd with option "bs=4096", so that the
fuse kernel module need not concatenate write chunks (the
default block size is 512 for dd).

Jean-Pierre



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From aurelien.larcher at gmail.com  Wed Jul 29 01:58:47 2015
From: aurelien.larcher at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien_Larcher?=)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 03:58:47 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] LibreOffice: libmspub, libwps
Message-ID: <CAHMq6q1Ch44CbLo2QKWNUH3_CVXcZm27i2uayhbHALn+PZyw2g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
these 2 libraries are in the pipe.
I also tried to compile libcdr but it requires lcms2 to be added first, if
there is any interest.

Wiki updated: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/LibreOffice

Best,

Aurelien

From bfriesen at simple.dallas.tx.us  Wed Jul 29 02:25:40 2015
From: bfriesen at simple.dallas.tx.us (Bob Friesenhahn)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 21:25:40 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] LibreOffice: libmspub, libwps
In-Reply-To: <CAHMq6q1Ch44CbLo2QKWNUH3_CVXcZm27i2uayhbHALn+PZyw2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHMq6q1Ch44CbLo2QKWNUH3_CVXcZm27i2uayhbHALn+PZyw2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.GSO.2.01.1507282122450.4186@freddy.simplesystems.org>

On Wed, 29 Jul 2015, Aur?lien Larcher wrote:

> Hi,
> these 2 libraries are in the pipe.
> I also tried to compile libcdr but it requires lcms2 to be added first, if there is any interest.

Lcms2 is an easy compile and useful for color management.  There is a 
spec file for it.  See SFElcms2-gnu.spec.

Bob
-- 
Bob Friesenhahn
bfriesen at simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/
GraphicsMagick Maintainer,    http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/

From jean-pierre.andre at wanadoo.fr  Thu Jul 30 14:17:20 2015
From: jean-pierre.andre at wanadoo.fr (=?UTF-8?Q?Jean-Pierre_Andr=c3=a9?=)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 16:17:20 +0200
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance
In-Reply-To: <1342473773.16574599.1438130629570.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
References: <mp7dop$iu9$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1342473773.16574599.1438130629570.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
Message-ID: <mpdblh$j2c$1@ger.gmane.org>

bentahyr at chez.com wrote:
> Hi Jean-Pierre,
>
> I was using 2012.1.15AR.8 from SFE, with no specific option for mount command :
> # ntfs-3g -o uid=101 /dev/dsk/c2t0d0p1 /mnt
>
> Since then I switched to the last version available on your website (2015.3.14AR.1), and redid the test, still using the same mount command.
> $ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img of=/mnt/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
> 1412712+0 records in
> 1412712+0 records out
> 723308544 bytes (723 MB) copied, 2552.51 s, 283 kB/s
> I stopped it as it wasn't necessary to wait 3h
>
> $ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img of=/mnt/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img bs=4096
> 166643+0 records in
> 166643+0 records out
> 682569728 bytes (683 MB) copied, 2360.02 s, 289 kB/s
> Stopped as well
>
> Mount with big_writes option
> # ntfs-3g -o big_writes,uid=101 /dev/dsk/c2t0d0p1 /mnt

The big_writes option is not supported by the fuse variant
for OpenIndiana.

> $ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img of=/mnt/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img bs=4096
> 207578+0 records in
> 207578+0 records out
> 850239488 bytes (850 MB) copied, 3691.7 s, 230 kB/s
> Stopped as well
>
> Now I format the disk on Win7 to NTFS, 512b rather than defaulting to 4096b
> $ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img of=/mnt/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
> 172937+0 records in
> 172937+0 records out
> 708349952 bytes (708 MB) copied, 2367.44 s, 299 kB/s
> Stopped as well
>
> I don't really know what to blame, maybe the FUSE stage might the bottleneck here.

ntfs-3g has never been efficient on bulk transfers because
it is organized on top of fuse, but there must be another
explanation for this very bad throughput.

I have no idea why, ATM.

Regards

Jean-Pierre

> Maybe dd is not really the good command to test this as well.
> I wanted to test exFAT as weel but I'm running out of time before going off until September.
>
> Ben




From t12nslookup at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 15:09:47 2015
From: t12nslookup at gmail.com (Jonathan Adams)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 16:09:47 +0100
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB 2 performance
In-Reply-To: <mpdblh$j2c$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <mp7dop$iu9$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1342473773.16574599.1438130629570.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net>
	<mpdblh$j2c$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <CAKr4wiSxhWixh2JTxtYtFUm1tqtBxVSuP-5mJbzac200ZF8zKQ@mail.gmail.com>

I know it's a little off-topic, but have you thought of creating a zpool on
the USB stick and seeing how that goes?

ZFS on Linux works well for removable media, assuming you can "sudo zpool
import"

Jon

PS. I generally end up dd'ing with a block size of 4M to get maximum
throughput.

On 30 July 2015 at 15:17, Jean-Pierre Andr? <jean-pierre.andre at wanadoo.fr>
wrote:

> bentahyr at chez.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Jean-Pierre,
>>
>> I was using 2012.1.15AR.8 from SFE, with no specific option for mount
>> command :
>> # ntfs-3g -o uid=101 /dev/dsk/c2t0d0p1 /mnt
>>
>> Since then I switched to the last version available on your website
>> (2015.3.14AR.1), and redid the test, still using the same mount command.
>> $ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
>> of=/mnt/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
>> 1412712+0 records in
>> 1412712+0 records out
>> 723308544 bytes (723 MB) copied, 2552.51 s, 283 kB/s
>> I stopped it as it wasn't necessary to wait 3h
>>
>> $ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
>> of=/mnt/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img bs=4096
>> 166643+0 records in
>> 166643+0 records out
>> 682569728 bytes (683 MB) copied, 2360.02 s, 289 kB/s
>> Stopped as well
>>
>> Mount with big_writes option
>> # ntfs-3g -o big_writes,uid=101 /dev/dsk/c2t0d0p1 /mnt
>>
>
> The big_writes option is not supported by the fuse variant
> for OpenIndiana.
>
> $ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
>> of=/mnt/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img bs=4096
>> 207578+0 records in
>> 207578+0 records out
>> 850239488 bytes (850 MB) copied, 3691.7 s, 230 kB/s
>> Stopped as well
>>
>> Now I format the disk on Win7 to NTFS, 512b rather than defaulting to
>> 4096b
>> $ dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
>> of=/mnt/FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img
>> 172937+0 records in
>> 172937+0 records out
>> 708349952 bytes (708 MB) copied, 2367.44 s, 299 kB/s
>> Stopped as well
>>
>> I don't really know what to blame, maybe the FUSE stage might the
>> bottleneck here.
>>
>
> ntfs-3g has never been efficient on bulk transfers because
> it is organized on top of fuse, but there must be another
> explanation for this very bad throughput.
>
> I have no idea why, ATM.
>
> Regards
>
> Jean-Pierre
>
> Maybe dd is not really the good command to test this as well.
>> I wanted to test exFAT as weel but I'm running out of time before going
>> off until September.
>>
>> Ben
>>
>
>
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