[OpenIndiana-discuss] Hipster upgrade problem

Nikola M minikola at gmail.com
Sun Nov 15 06:31:24 UTC 2015


On 11/14/15 03:44 PM, Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote:
> Hi Nikola,
>
> so that means that it is currently luck if the upgrade will work and in this particular case there's no way to force the upgrade to Perl 5.22? Too bad. :-(
Unless Hipster is freezed at some point that is marked upgradable and 
tested, there is no point in time in hipster one can always upgrade to.
It doesn't mean it can't be made available soon, and you can help in 
testing with it. I just suggested that zfs send of fresh install on 
existing rpool is actually the fresh install you can get newer packages 
into.

Hipster does not have 'entire' one update to in the point in time where 
update is tested now and hipster does not have  ability to bring back 
older packages that used to work.
Bare in mind I was able to update from 151a8 to hipster, more then 2 
years ago
but no one find important to freeze that state is some release to enable 
update from /dev all the time since then.

Hipster also does not have it's own source code repositories, but 
download and patch sources from external sites - that is also not 
something what distribution release is about, but would need it's own 
source repositories available for distribution together with bineries 
distribution, to continue from /dev.

Hipster has rolling release model, meaning goal is not set for releasing 
anything, there are only ISOs as snapshots from time to time.
Hipster is not controlling illumos that is shipped with it, nor applies 
it's own patches, but compile and publish newest illumos after it is 
available - that is great for testing and catching problems as they 
arrive but is not for production.
If you want real continuation from /dev to something newer and tested,
one needs to contribute with ideas, testing, bug reports, package 
maintaining and development.

Alp and few people contributing and testing can't do everything alone,
all problems described have cure in establishing actual release and 
support model
and that needs more people included, including you.




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