From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Wed Jun 1 07:08:18 2016 From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Predrag_Ze=c4=8devi=c4=87_-_Unix_Systems_Administrator?=) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:08:18 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [CFT] X11 components In-Reply-To: <574DA96E.9060102@rsu.ru> References: <5746C58D.8030402@rsu.ru> <5746E313.1080506@rsu.ru> <5747222D.2010100@rsu.ru> <574D8E83.50901@2e-systems.com> <574DA6CF.4010108@2e-systems.com> <574DA96E.9060102@rsu.ru> Message-ID: <574E89E2.60202@2e-systems.com> On 05/31/16 05:10 PM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: > On 05/31/16 05:59 PM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: >> >> >> On 05/31/16 03:27 PM, Aur?lien Larcher wrote: >>> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems >>> Administrator wrote: >>> >>>> On 05/26/16 06:19 PM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, guys! >>>>> >>>>> So, as you've heard, Aur?lien has made a big piece of work converting >>>>> x-s12-clone packages to oi-userland format. So we have about +220 >>>>> components. >>>>> >>>>> They need testing. >>>>> >>>>> I've just compiled everything and put at >>>>> http://xzone.oi-build.r61.net:1000/ . >>>>> >>>>> Please, update your systems and report any issues. >>>>> >>>>> Brief instructions: >>>>> 1) create backup BE >>>>> 2) update to latest Hipster >>>>> 3) pkg set-publisher -P -g http://xzone.oi-build.r61.net:1000/ >>>>> userland >>>>> 4) pkg set-publisher --non-sticky openindiana.org >>>>> 5) pkg install pkg://userland/* >>>>> >>>>> Reboot and see if something went wrong. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have tried to test this, but my zone is preventing step 5)... >>>> >>> >>> Can you post the output ? >> $ pfexec pkg install pkg://userland/* >> Linked image publisher checkpkg: install failed (linked image >> exception(s)): >> >> A 'pubcheck-linked' operation failed for child 'zone:hipster' with an >> unexpected >> return value of 99 and generated the following output: >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "/usr/bin/pkg", line 5444, in handle_errors >> __ret = func(*args, **kwargs) >> File "/usr/bin/pkg", line 1816, in __dispatch >> rv = op_func(op, _api_inst, **pwargs) >> File "/usr/bin/pkg", line 4047, in pubcheck_linked >> api_inst.linked_publisher_check() >> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/pkg/client/api.py", line >> 206, in wrapper >> return f(instance, *fargs, **f_kwargs) >> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/pkg/client/api.py", line >> 1628, in linked_publisher_check >> self.__linked_pubcheck() >> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/pkg/client/api.py", line >> 1607, in __linked_pubcheck >> self._img.linked.pubcheck() >> File >> "/usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/pkg/client/linkedimage/common.py", >> line 1043, in pubcheck >> linked_pub_error=(pubs, ppubs)) >> PlanCreationException: >> Invalid child image publisher configuration. Child image publisher >> configuration must be a superset of the parent image publisher >> configuration. >> Please update the child publisher configuration to match the parent. If >> the >> child image is a zone this can be done automatically by detaching and >> attaching the zone. > > > Hi. This is expected. For ipkg zones NGZ's publisher's configurations > should be a superset of GZ's publishers configuration, and publisher > order matters. > > Alp, thanks for clarification... So, I have executed steps 3 and 4 in zone as well and tried step 5 - which has failed (all errors resulted you can see in an attachment file; hopefully you will be able to read it). Regards. -- Predrag Ze?evi? Technical Support Analyst 2e Systems GmbH Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894 Mobile: +49 174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic E-mail: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Headquarter: 2e Systems GmbH, K?nigsteiner Str. 87, 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany Company registration: Amtsgericht K?nigstein (Germany), HRB 7303 Managing director: Phil Douglas http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly! -------------- next part -------------- $ pfexec pkg install pkg://userland/* Creating Plan (Solver setup): | pkg install: No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-void can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-void at 1.4.0-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/installalias can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/installalias at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/header/xproto can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/header/xproto at 7.0.28-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of benchmark/x11perf can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/benchmark/x11perf at 1.5.4-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of file/lndir can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/file/lndir at 1.0.3-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/xclock can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/xclock at 1.0.7-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/header/fontsproto can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/header/fontsproto at 2.1.3-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/xfd can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/xfd at 1.1.2-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/xfs can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/xfs at 1.1.4-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/ico can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/ico at 1.0.4-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/session/mkcookie can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/session/mkcookie at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-trident can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-trident at 1.3.6-2016.0.0.1 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/xgc can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/xgc at 1.0.5-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-openchrome can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-openchrome at 0.3.3-2016.0.0.1 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/library/xtrans can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/library/xtrans at 1.3.5-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-synaptics can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-synaptics at 1.8.2-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-nv can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-nv at 2.1.20-2016.0.0.1 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/xeyes can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/xeyes at 1.1.1-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-vmmouse can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-vmmouse at 13.1.0-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-cirrus can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-cirrus at 1.5.2-2016.0.0.1 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/library/libpthread-stubs can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/library/libpthread-stubs at 0.3-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of diagnostic/constype can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/diagnostic/constype at 1.0.4-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/session/xauth can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/session/xauth at 1.0.7-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/library/xcb-util-cursor can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/library/xcb-util-cursor at 0.1.2-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-dummy can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-dummy at 0.3.7-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of library/graphics/pixman can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/library/graphics/pixman at 0.32.8-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/library/libxcb can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/library/libxcb at 1.11.1-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of system/display-manager/xdm can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/system/display-manager/xdm at 1.1.9-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/iceauth can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/iceauth at 1.0.7-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of desktop/window-manager/twm can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/desktop/window-manager/twm at 1.0.9-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of diagnostic/xload can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/diagnostic/xload at 1.1.2-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/font-utilities can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/font-utilities at 7.5-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-mouse can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-mouse at 1.9.1-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/library/libxi can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/library/libxi at 1.7.6-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/font-util can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/font-util at 1.3.1-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/library/libxext can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/library/libxext at 1.3.3-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/demo can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/demo at 7.5-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/library/libxft can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/library/libxft at 2.3.2-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of terminal/xterm can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/terminal/xterm at 318-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-mga can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-mga at 1.6.4-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-vmware can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-vmware at 13.1.0-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/library/glu can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/library/glu at 9.0.0-2016.0.0.1 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/library/libice can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/library/libice at 1.0.9-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/library/libx11 can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/library/libx11 at 1.6.3-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/demo/mesa-demos can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/demo/mesa-demos at 8.3.0-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey can be installed: No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-mach64 can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-mach64 at 6.9.5-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/library/libxmu can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/library/libxmu at 1.1.2-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-r128 can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-r128 at 6.10.0-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-vesa can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-vesa at 2.3.4-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-savage can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-savage at 2.3.7-2016.0.0.1 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-ast can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-video-ast at 1.1.5-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/library/libxmuu can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/library/libxmuu at 1.1.2-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/mkfontdir can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/mkfontdir at 1.0.7-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/library/xcb-util-errors can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/library/xcb-util-errors at 1.0-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-keyboard can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-keyboard at 1.8.1-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/xlogo can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/xlogo at 1.0.4-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-acecad can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-acecad at 1.5.0-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/bdftopcf can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/bdftopcf at 1.0.5-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/library/libxfont can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/library/libxfont at 1.4.9-2016.0.0.2 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/mkfontscale can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/mkfontscale at 1.1.2-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 No matching version of x11/library/libxfixes can be installed: Reject: pkg://userland/x11/library/libxfixes at 5.0.1-2016.0.0.0 Reason: This version is excluded by installed incorporation consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6353 From alp at rsu.ru Wed Jun 1 07:31:18 2016 From: alp at rsu.ru (Alexander Pyhalov) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:31:18 +0300 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [CFT] X11 components In-Reply-To: <574E89E2.60202@2e-systems.com> References: <5746C58D.8030402@rsu.ru> <5746E313.1080506@rsu.ru> <5747222D.2010100@rsu.ru> <574D8E83.50901@2e-systems.com> <574DA6CF.4010108@2e-systems.com> <574DA96E.9060102@rsu.ru> <574E89E2.60202@2e-systems.com> Message-ID: <574E8F46.7060009@rsu.ru> On 06/ 1/16 10:08 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: > ted steps 3 and 4 in zone as well and tried step 5 - which has failed > (all errors resulted you can see in an attachment file; hopefully you > will be able to read it). # pkg change-facet facet.require.consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation=False # pkg uninstall userland-incorporation -- Best regards, Alexander Pyhalov, system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Wed Jun 1 07:58:17 2016 From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Predrag_Ze=c4=8devi=c4=87_-_Unix_Systems_Administrator?=) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:58:17 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [CFT] X11 components In-Reply-To: <574E8F46.7060009@rsu.ru> References: <5746C58D.8030402@rsu.ru> <5746E313.1080506@rsu.ru> <5747222D.2010100@rsu.ru> <574D8E83.50901@2e-systems.com> <574DA6CF.4010108@2e-systems.com> <574DA96E.9060102@rsu.ru> <574E89E2.60202@2e-systems.com> <574E8F46.7060009@rsu.ru> Message-ID: <574E9599.7070902@2e-systems.com> On 06/ 1/16 09:31 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: > On 06/ 1/16 10:08 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: >> ted steps 3 and 4 in zone as well and tried step 5 - which has failed >> (all errors resulted you can see in an attachment file; hopefully you >> will be able to read it). > > # pkg change-facet > facet.require.consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation=False > > # pkg uninstall userland-incorporation > Hi Alp, that helped a bit! Still this error: pkg install: No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey can be installed: (see also attached file). Regards. -- Predrag Ze?evi? Technical Support Analyst 2e Systems GmbH Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894 Mobile: +49 174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic E-mail: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Headquarter: 2e Systems GmbH, K?nigsteiner Str. 87, 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany Company registration: Amtsgericht K?nigstein (Germany), HRB 7303 Managing director: Phil Douglas http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly! -------------- next part -------------- $ pfexec pkg change-facet facet.require.consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation=False Packages to change: 1 Variants/Facets to change: 1 Create boot environment: No Create backup boot environment: Yes Planning linked: 0/1 done; 1 working: zone:hipster Linked image 'zone:hipster' output: ` Planning linked: 1/1 done Downloading linked: 0/1 done; 1 working: zone:hipster Downloading linked: 1/1 done PHASE ITEMS Removing old actions 1/1 Updating package state database Done Updating package cache 0/0 Updating image state Done Creating fast lookup database Done Reading search index Done Updating search index 1/1 Executing linked: 0/1 done; 1 working: zone:hipster Executing linked: 1/1 done Updating package cache 4/4 $ pfexec pkg uninstall userland-incorporation Packages to remove: 1 Create boot environment: No Create backup boot environment: No Planning linked: 0/1 done; 1 working: zone:hipster Linked image 'zone:hipster' output: ` Planning linked: 1/1 done Building new search index 1593/1593 Downloading linked: 0/1 done; 1 working: zone:hipster Downloading linked: 1/1 done PHASE ITEMS Removing old actions 2400/2400 Updating package state database Done Updating package cache 1/1 Updating image state Done Creating fast lookup database Done Reading search index Done Updating search index 1/1 Executing linked: 0/1 done; 1 working: zone:hipster Executing linked: 1/1 done Updating package cache 4/4 $ pfexec pkg install -v pkg://userland/* Creating Plan (Solver setup): \ pkg install: No matching version of x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey can be installed: $ pkg publisher PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS P LOCATION userland origin online F http://xzone.oi-build.r61.net:1000/ openindiana.org (non-sticky) origin online F http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/ hipster-encumbered origin online F http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-encumbered/ localhostoih origin online F http://sfe.opencsw.org/localhostoih/ $ beadm list BE Active Mountpoint Space Policy Created OIhipster_20160527 - - 16,2M static 2016-05-27 08:26 OIhipster_20160530 NR / 24,8G static 2016-05-30 08:17 OIhipster_20160530_before_X11 - - 108K static 2016-05-31 15:11 OIhipster_20160530-backup-1 - - 111K static 2016-06-01 09:42 From alp at rsu.ru Wed Jun 1 08:02:55 2016 From: alp at rsu.ru (Alexander Pyhalov) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:02:55 +0300 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [CFT] X11 components In-Reply-To: <574E9599.7070902@2e-systems.com> References: <5746C58D.8030402@rsu.ru> <5746E313.1080506@rsu.ru> <5747222D.2010100@rsu.ru> <574D8E83.50901@2e-systems.com> <574DA6CF.4010108@2e-systems.com> <574DA96E.9060102@rsu.ru> <574E89E2.60202@2e-systems.com> <574E8F46.7060009@rsu.ru> <574E9599.7070902@2e-systems.com> Message-ID: <574E96AF.4080407@rsu.ru> On 06/ 1/16 10:58 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: > On 06/ 1/16 09:31 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: >> On 06/ 1/16 10:08 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: >>> ted steps 3 and 4 in zone as well and tried step 5 - which has failed >>> (all errors resulted you can see in an attachment file; hopefully you >>> will be able to read it). >> >> # pkg change-facet >> facet.require.consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation=False >> >> # pkg uninstall userland-incorporation >> > Hi Alp, > > that helped a bit! Still this error: > pkg install: No matching version of > x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey can be installed: > > (see also attached file). > And what depends on it? pkg search -l 'depend::*x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey*' |awk '{ printf $NF; }' | cut -d @ -f 1 pkg search -r 'depend::*x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey*' |awk '{ printf $NF; }' | cut -d @ -f 1 -- Best regards, Alexander Pyhalov, system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Wed Jun 1 08:15:00 2016 From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Predrag_Ze=c4=8devi=c4=87_-_Unix_Systems_Administrator?=) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:15:00 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [CFT] X11 components In-Reply-To: <574E96AF.4080407@rsu.ru> References: <5746C58D.8030402@rsu.ru> <5746E313.1080506@rsu.ru> <5747222D.2010100@rsu.ru> <574D8E83.50901@2e-systems.com> <574DA6CF.4010108@2e-systems.com> <574DA96E.9060102@rsu.ru> <574E89E2.60202@2e-systems.com> <574E8F46.7060009@rsu.ru> <574E9599.7070902@2e-systems.com> <574E96AF.4080407@rsu.ru> Message-ID: <574E9984.8000307@2e-systems.com> On 06/ 1/16 10:02 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: > On 06/ 1/16 10:58 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: >> On 06/ 1/16 09:31 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: >>> On 06/ 1/16 10:08 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator >>> wrote: >>>> ted steps 3 and 4 in zone as well and tried step 5 - which has failed >>>> (all errors resulted you can see in an attachment file; hopefully you >>>> will be able to read it). >>> >>> # pkg change-facet >>> facet.require.consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation=False >>> >>> # pkg uninstall userland-incorporation >>> >> Hi Alp, >> >> that helped a bit! Still this error: >> pkg install: No matching version of >> x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey can be installed: >> >> (see also attached file). >> > > > And what depends on it? > > pkg search -l 'depend::*x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey*' |awk > '{ printf $NF; }' | cut -d @ -f 1 > > > pkg search -r 'depend::*x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey*' |awk > '{ printf $NF; }' | cut -d @ -f 1 Hi Alp, Funny, both commands show nothing: $ pkg search -l 'depend::*x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey*' | awk '{ printf $NF; }' | cut -d @ -f 1 $ pkg search -l 'depend::*x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey*' Regards. -- Predrag Ze?evi? Technical Support Analyst 2e Systems GmbH Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894 Mobile: +49 174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic E-mail: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Headquarter: 2e Systems GmbH, K?nigsteiner Str. 87, 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany Company registration: Amtsgericht K?nigstein (Germany), HRB 7303 Managing director: Phil Douglas http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly! From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Wed Jun 1 08:20:10 2016 From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Predrag_Ze=c4=8devi=c4=87_-_Unix_Systems_Administrator?=) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:20:10 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [CFT] X11 components In-Reply-To: <574E9984.8000307@2e-systems.com> References: <5746C58D.8030402@rsu.ru> <5746E313.1080506@rsu.ru> <5747222D.2010100@rsu.ru> <574D8E83.50901@2e-systems.com> <574DA6CF.4010108@2e-systems.com> <574DA96E.9060102@rsu.ru> <574E89E2.60202@2e-systems.com> <574E8F46.7060009@rsu.ru> <574E9599.7070902@2e-systems.com> <574E96AF.4080407@rsu.ru> <574E9984.8000307@2e-systems.com> Message-ID: <574E9ABA.2060702@2e-systems.com> On 06/ 1/16 10:15 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: > On 06/ 1/16 10:02 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: >> On 06/ 1/16 10:58 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: >>> On 06/ 1/16 09:31 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: >>>> On 06/ 1/16 10:08 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator >>>> wrote: >>>>> ted steps 3 and 4 in zone as well and tried step 5 - which has failed >>>>> (all errors resulted you can see in an attachment file; hopefully you >>>>> will be able to read it). >>>> >>>> # pkg change-facet >>>> facet.require.consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation=False >>>> >>>> # pkg uninstall userland-incorporation >>>> >>> Hi Alp, >>> >>> that helped a bit! Still this error: >>> pkg install: No matching version of >>> x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey can be installed: >>> >>> (see also attached file). >>> >> >> >> And what depends on it? >> >> pkg search -l 'depend::*x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey*' |awk >> '{ printf $NF; }' | cut -d @ -f 1 >> >> >> pkg search -r 'depend::*x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey*' |awk >> '{ printf $NF; }' | cut -d @ -f 1 > > Hi Alp, > Funny, both commands show nothing: > > $ pkg search -l 'depend::*x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey*' | > awk '{ printf $NF; }' | cut -d @ -f 1 > $ pkg search -l 'depend::*x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey*' > > Regards. But this one (not sure if useful at all): $ pkg contents -t depend -H -o action.raw x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey depend fmri=pkg:/system/library at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.15677 type=require Regards. -- Predrag Ze?evi? Technical Support Analyst 2e Systems GmbH Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894 Mobile: +49 174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic E-mail: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Headquarter: 2e Systems GmbH, K?nigsteiner Str. 87, 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany Company registration: Amtsgericht K?nigstein (Germany), HRB 7303 Managing director: Phil Douglas http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly! From alp at rsu.ru Wed Jun 1 08:31:56 2016 From: alp at rsu.ru (Alexander Pyhalov) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:31:56 +0300 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [CFT] X11 components In-Reply-To: <574E9ABA.2060702@2e-systems.com> References: <5746C58D.8030402@rsu.ru> <5746E313.1080506@rsu.ru> <5747222D.2010100@rsu.ru> <574D8E83.50901@2e-systems.com> <574DA6CF.4010108@2e-systems.com> <574DA96E.9060102@rsu.ru> <574E89E2.60202@2e-systems.com> <574E8F46.7060009@rsu.ru> <574E9599.7070902@2e-systems.com> <574E96AF.4080407@rsu.ru> <574E9984.8000307@2e-systems.com> <574E9ABA.2060702@2e-systems.com> Message-ID: <574E9D7C.6050907@rsu.ru> On 06/ 1/16 11:20 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator > But this one (not sure if useful at all): > $ pkg contents -t depend -H -o action.raw > x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey > depend fmri=pkg:/system/library at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.15677 type=require > > Regards. Is your base system fresh enough? -- Best regards, Alexander Pyhalov, system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Wed Jun 1 09:30:01 2016 From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Predrag_Ze=c4=8devi=c4=87_-_Unix_Systems_Administrator?=) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:30:01 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [CFT] X11 components In-Reply-To: <574E9D7C.6050907@rsu.ru> References: <5746C58D.8030402@rsu.ru> <5746E313.1080506@rsu.ru> <5747222D.2010100@rsu.ru> <574D8E83.50901@2e-systems.com> <574DA6CF.4010108@2e-systems.com> <574DA96E.9060102@rsu.ru> <574E89E2.60202@2e-systems.com> <574E8F46.7060009@rsu.ru> <574E9599.7070902@2e-systems.com> <574E96AF.4080407@rsu.ru> <574E9984.8000307@2e-systems.com> <574E9ABA.2060702@2e-systems.com> <574E9D7C.6050907@rsu.ru> Message-ID: <574EAB19.4020508@2e-systems.com> On 06/ 1/16 10:31 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: > On 06/ 1/16 11:20 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator >> But this one (not sure if useful at all): >> $ pkg contents -t depend -H -o action.raw >> x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey >> depend fmri=pkg:/system/library at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.15677 type=require >> >> Regards. > > Is your base system fresh enough? Hi Alp, system was freshly installed back on October: $ ls -al /var/pkg/history/* | head -2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 426 Oct 3 2015 /var/pkg/history/20151003T093010Z-01.xml -rw-r--r-- 1 root staff 2.0K Jan 8 15:23 /var/pkg/history/20160108T142313Z-01.xml I have started to use it in January ... So, what I can do to make my system "fresh" enough? Regards. -- Predrag Ze?evi? Technical Support Analyst 2e Systems GmbH Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894 Mobile: +49 174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic E-mail: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Headquarter: 2e Systems GmbH, K?nigsteiner Str. 87, 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany Company registration: Amtsgericht K?nigstein (Germany), HRB 7303 Managing director: Phil Douglas http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly! From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Wed Jun 1 09:36:35 2016 From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Predrag_Ze=c4=8devi=c4=87_-_Unix_Systems_Administrator?=) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:36:35 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [CFT] X11 components In-Reply-To: <574EAB19.4020508@2e-systems.com> References: <5746C58D.8030402@rsu.ru> <5746E313.1080506@rsu.ru> <5747222D.2010100@rsu.ru> <574D8E83.50901@2e-systems.com> <574DA6CF.4010108@2e-systems.com> <574DA96E.9060102@rsu.ru> <574E89E2.60202@2e-systems.com> <574E8F46.7060009@rsu.ru> <574E9599.7070902@2e-systems.com> <574E96AF.4080407@rsu.ru> <574E9984.8000307@2e-systems.com> <574E9ABA.2060702@2e-systems.com> <574E9D7C.6050907@rsu.ru> <574EAB19.4020508@2e-systems.com> Message-ID: <574EACA3.4090503@2e-systems.com> On 06/ 1/16 11:30 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: > On 06/ 1/16 10:31 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: >> On 06/ 1/16 11:20 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator >>> But this one (not sure if useful at all): >>> $ pkg contents -t depend -H -o action.raw >>> x11/server/xorg/driver/xorg-input-hotkey >>> depend fmri=pkg:/system/library at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.15677 type=require >>> >>> Regards. >> >> Is your base system fresh enough? > > Hi Alp, > system was freshly installed back on October: > $ ls -al /var/pkg/history/* | head -2 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 426 Oct 3 2015 > /var/pkg/history/20151003T093010Z-01.xml > -rw-r--r-- 1 root staff 2.0K Jan 8 15:23 > /var/pkg/history/20160108T142313Z-01.xml > > I have started to use it in January ... > > So, what I can do to make my system "fresh" enough? > > Regards. > Sorry for spam, it looks like it has been pulled when I do: pfexec pkg refresh --full pfexec pkg update -v --be-nameOIhipster_20160601 Will report problems, if any.. Regards. -- Predrag Ze?evi? Technical Support Analyst 2e Systems GmbH Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894 Mobile: +49 174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic E-mail: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Headquarter: 2e Systems GmbH, K?nigsteiner Str. 87, 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany Company registration: Amtsgericht K?nigstein (Germany), HRB 7303 Managing director: Phil Douglas http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly! From gbulfon at sonicle.com Wed Jun 1 12:17:05 2016 From: gbulfon at sonicle.com (Gabriele Bulfon) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:17:05 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] tip - moving different zones into different distros Message-ID: <27225167.191.1464783425094.JavaMail.sonicle@www> Hi, I'd like to share this experience of mine, maybe useful to someone else. Just happened to work on moving old zones coming from old OI-like servers, with totally different and older origin pkg repos, into a fresh XStreamOS global zone. I wanted to bring them into the latest XStreamOS, moving the datasets and updating the zones kernel without affecting specific application data/softwares, or at least have a chance to make them work in some way on the new system. As you may already know, attaching and updating the old zones on the new system will try to bring pkg consistency of the zone to the current hosting global zone. This will fail in this case. Too different packagings and consolidations. But I found this trick to work: - zonecfg -z myzone: use it to configure the zone on the new system, then set zonepath to the path of the moved zone's zfs dataset - zoneadm -z myzone attach -u: let the new system try to update the zone's dataset with the new global-zone pkg publisher, and then fail to update because of old pkg and others inconsistencies - zoneadm -z myzone attach -F: force the zone into installed state and attach without checks - pkg update -r -z myzone : let the global zone take care of updating the zone packages through its own lates pkg, bringing kernel binaries, libs and boot-environment consistent with the global zone - zfs set mountpoint=legacy [myzone-dataset-ROOT-zbe] : this is necessary because previous commands left the zbe dataset in a mounted and non-legacy state, which won't let you boot the zone - zoneadm -z myzone boot Now zlogin into the zone and check that the system is running on latest kernel! Sure, you may find software that is not running because of different libraries, but this can be addressed once moved. I had no problem at all, as all the running software is under its own directory, with its own libs, and few system libs dependencies that were happily resolved. Gabriele ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sonicle S.r.l. : http://www.sonicle.com Music: http://www.gabrielebulfon.com Quantum Mechanics : http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Wed Jun 1 13:04:27 2016 From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Predrag_Ze=c4=8devi=c4=87_-_Unix_Systems_Administrator?=) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:04:27 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [CFT] X11 components In-Reply-To: <5747222D.2010100@rsu.ru> References: <5746C58D.8030402@rsu.ru> <5746E313.1080506@rsu.ru> <5747222D.2010100@rsu.ru> Message-ID: <574EDD5B.6090908@2e-systems.com> On 05/26/16 06:19 PM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: > Hello, guys! > > So, as you've heard, Aur?lien has made a big piece of work converting > x-s12-clone packages to oi-userland format. So we have about +220 > components. > > They need testing. > > I've just compiled everything and put at > http://xzone.oi-build.r61.net:1000/ . > > Please, update your systems and report any issues. > > Brief instructions: > 1) create backup BE > 2) update to latest Hipster > 3) pkg set-publisher -P -g http://xzone.oi-build.r61.net:1000/ userland > 4) pkg set-publisher --non-sticky openindiana.org > 5) pkg install pkg://userland/* > > Reboot and see if something went wrong. > Update: a) I would like to stress that steps 1 and 2 have to be swapped b) we need 2 more steps to be done before step 5 (like Alp has suggested): # pkg change-facet facet.require.consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation=False # pkg uninstall userland-incorporation After reboot I got set of updates from xzone repository and working with it few hours already without any issue :-) Many thanks for this work and great help. Best regards. -- Predrag Ze?evi? Technical Support Analyst 2e Systems GmbH Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894 Mobile: +49 174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic E-mail: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Headquarter: 2e Systems GmbH, K?nigsteiner Str. 87, 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany Company registration: Amtsgericht K?nigstein (Germany), HRB 7303 Managing director: Phil Douglas http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly! From grzemba at contac-dt.de Wed Jun 1 14:59:06 2016 From: grzemba at contac-dt.de (Carsten Grzemba) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 16:59:06 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox on latest hipster In-Reply-To: <573996BC.2050909@gmail.com> References: <5734D891.9080003@willows7.myzen.co.uk> <57356557.1020204@gmail.com> <573996BC.2050909@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, I updated to latest hipster 2015.0.2.15619 but there system hangs on start VirtualBox guests (tried with 4.3.38, 5.0.20 ) Things was working with hipster 2015.0.2.15484. Has anyone same or better experience with latest hipster releases? Thanks On 17.05.16 04:08, Nikola M wrote: > > On 05/13/16 07:25 AM, Patrick Arnoux wrote: > >On 05/12/16 02:25 PM, russell wrote: > >>Hi, > >> > >>I upgraded to VirtualBox 5.0.20 on the 30th April and not experienced any problems so far. > >>In order to work around the problem of the supplied /opt/VirtualBox/vboxconfig.sh not running properly and having to manually replace the vboxconfig.sh with Jim Klimov's working version and running it to complete the installation. I copied Jim's version into /opt/VirtualBox/. and changed the permissions to 555 instead of 755. > >>So when I ran the pkgadd the installation complained about the file so you had to select y to continue but the installation completed normally. > >> > >>Regards > >> > >>Russell > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>openindiana-discuss mailing list > >>openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > >>http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > >These might prove useful. > > > >Attached is a modified vboxconfig.sh as well as pkgmap for VirtualBox 5.0.20 which works on Solaris as well as Openindiana/Illumos. > >Use pkgtrans to extract the VirtualBox package to a directory, replace pkgmap in the top level directory and vboxconfig.sh in > >root/opt/VirtualBox with these and install. > >The installation should be clean. > > Following Jim Klimov's great manual word-by word from: > https://github.com/jimklimov/vboxconfig_sh > > I made VirtualBox-5.0.20-106931-SunOS-illumos.tar.gz that includes repacked changes. > Available at: https://mega.nz/#!jJAjAAQR!XR1cPpCic8-_E71ZcxSsfiZyrtQ1MC9uUDqgSYKCQ_8 > > SHA256SUM is VirtualBox-5.0.20-106931-SunOS-illumos.tar.gz.sha256 > Av. at: https://mega.nz/#!GYgXzKpQ!kF6GVs-IgWCGYYCdgI92YrEeScZi7IkkpsVJT8lyH_0 > > sha256sum -c : > 318a47b9c13c64e9a7147780f3c8a0c9127d1db3ad0f76d03bffc84deebe7d2a VirtualBox-5.0.20-106931-SunOS-illumos.tar.gz > > You can also , following manual repack it too, > but I did it to save people's time for others wanting to install and use VirtualBox on OI. :) > > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > From minikola at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 16:38:59 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 18:38:59 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox on latest hipster In-Reply-To: References: <5734D891.9080003@willows7.myzen.co.uk> <57356557.1020204@gmail.com> <573996BC.2050909@gmail.com> Message-ID: <574F0FA3.5010208@gmail.com> On 06/ 1/16 04:59 PM, Carsten Grzemba wrote: > Hi, > > I updated to latest hipster 2015.0.2.15619 but there system hangs on start VirtualBox guests (tried with 4.3.38, 5.0.20 ) > Things was working with hipster 2015.0.2.15484. > > Has anyone same or better experience with latest hipster releases? > > Thanks Please post below quotes on mailing list. As posted on :http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/7.2+VirtualBox , illumos implemented *SMAP* functions but VirtualBox build for Solaris (that is working under Openindiana) does not includes them. see Wiki notice about setting needed: "Workaround is to put: *set disable_smap=1 *in */etc/system* and reboot, before starting VirtualBox", together with "*|touch /etc/vboxinst_vboxflt" |*Also check weither you are running newest hipster, for it migrated form /hipster-2015 to /hipster: http://www.openindiana.org/2016/04/19/openindiana-hipster-repository-location-has-been-changed/ (pkg set-publisher -G http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-2015 -g http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster openindiana.org) Also notice that 'entire' incorporation have as dependencies: osnet-incorporation (illumos) and usenet-incorporation (everything elese in OI), and still there is no versioned , say numbered 'hipster-incorporation' that would have those 2 as dependencies. So when reporting, you need to state both isnet-incorporation and usenet incorporation FMRI, because they change, while 'entire' number may be still not changing while osnet and userland can change every day. That is until hipster-incorporation is possibly made available in the future to elegantly state hipster update state/snapshot as you tried to. From grzemba at contac-dt.de Thu Jun 2 06:11:06 2016 From: grzemba at contac-dt.de (Carsten Grzemba) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 08:11:06 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox on latest hipster In-Reply-To: <574F0FA3.5010208@gmail.com> References: <5734D891.9080003@willows7.myzen.co.uk> <57356557.1020204@gmail.com> <573996BC.2050909@gmail.com> <574F0FA3.5010208@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks, with disable_smap Virtualbox is working! On 01.06.16 18:39, Nikola M wrote: > > On 06/ 1/16 04:59 PM, Carsten Grzemba wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I updated to latest hipster 2015.0.2.15619 but there system hangs on start VirtualBox guests (tried with 4.3.38, 5.0.20 ) > >Things was working with hipster 2015.0.2.15484. > > > >Has anyone same or better experience with latest hipster releases? > > > >Thanks > > Please post below quotes on mailing list. > > As posted on :http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/7.2+VirtualBox , > illumos implemented *SMAP* functions but VirtualBox build for Solaris (that is working under Openindiana) does not includes them. > see Wiki notice about setting needed: > "Workaround is to put: *set disable_smap=1 *in */etc/system* and reboot, before starting VirtualBox", together with "*|touch /etc/vboxinst_vboxflt" > > |*Also check weither you are running newest hipster, for it migrated form /hipster-2015 to /hipster: > http://www.openindiana.org/2016/04/19/openindiana-hipster-repository-location-has-been-changed/ > (pkg set-publisher -G http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-2015 -g http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster openindiana.org) > > Also notice that 'entire' incorporation have as dependencies: osnet-incorporation (illumos) and usenet-incorporation (everything elese in OI), > and still there is no versioned , say numbered 'hipster-incorporation' that would have those 2 as dependencies. > So when reporting, you need to state both isnet-incorporation and usenet incorporation FMRI, > because they change, while 'entire' number may be still not changing while osnet and userland can change every day. > That is until hipster-incorporation is possibly made available in the future to elegantly state hipster update state/snapshot as you tried to. > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > From minikola at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 14:02:26 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 16:02:26 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox on latest hipster In-Reply-To: References: <5734D891.9080003@willows7.myzen.co.uk> <57356557.1020204@gmail.com> <573996BC.2050909@gmail.com> <574F0FA3.5010208@gmail.com> Message-ID: <57503C72.2030700@gmail.com> On 06/ 2/16 08:11 AM, Carsten Grzemba wrote: > Thanks, with disable_smap Virtualbox is working! :) Also posting below quotes is nice on public ML :) From kim.bak at gamereactor.dk Fri Jun 3 09:06:53 2016 From: kim.bak at gamereactor.dk (Kim Bak) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 11:06:53 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ssh to servers with recent openssh In-Reply-To: References: <573346D6.8070800@gamereactor.dk> Message-ID: <575148AD.9060802@gamereactor.dk> On 11/05/16 20:00, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Wed, 11 May 2016, Kim Bak wrote: > >> I have troubles connecting ssh to servers with newer openssh version >> doe to no common kex algorithm. >> Is there a way to fix this without changing the remote server config? > > The only problem I remember encountering is that recent OpenSSH does > not accept DSS (DSA) keys by default. It still accepts RSA keys. > > Make sure that you are not using a DSS (DSA) private key to log in. Actually the problem goes much deeper than this, all the key exchange algorithms compiled with oi openssh, are considered insecure and should be avoided. However, it was surprisingly easy to fix. I downloaded the latest openssl, compiled it, and just copied over the ssh executable, problem solved. // Kim Bak From minikola at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 10:28:36 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 12:28:36 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ssh to servers with recent openssh In-Reply-To: <575148AD.9060802@gamereactor.dk> References: <573346D6.8070800@gamereactor.dk> <575148AD.9060802@gamereactor.dk> Message-ID: <57515BD4.90500@gmail.com> On 06/ 3/16 11:06 AM, Kim Bak wrote: > Actually the problem goes much deeper than this, all the key exchange > algorithms compiled with oi openssh, are considered insecure and > should be avoided. > > However, it was surprisingly easy to fix. > > I downloaded the latest openssl, compiled it, and just copied over the > ssh executable, problem solved. > > // Kim Bak OI hipster has openssl, wouldn't it be better just to install in-OI package? Or upgrade OI hipster installation? It proved possible to upgrade from old /dev , via /hipster-2015 to newest /hipster. Possibly one can stop at 20140421 ISO /hipster snapshot without 'entire' (osnet-incorporation 15677, userland-incorporation 6353) From kim.bak at gamereactor.dk Fri Jun 3 11:40:05 2016 From: kim.bak at gamereactor.dk (Kim Bak) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:40:05 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ssh to servers with recent openssh In-Reply-To: <57515BD4.90500@gmail.com> References: <573346D6.8070800@gamereactor.dk> <575148AD.9060802@gamereactor.dk> <57515BD4.90500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <57516C95.9090304@gamereactor.dk> On 03/06/16 12:28, Nikola M wrote: > On 06/ 3/16 11:06 AM, Kim Bak wrote: >> Actually the problem goes much deeper than this, all the key exchange >> algorithms compiled with oi openssh, are considered insecure and >> should be avoided. >> >> However, it was surprisingly easy to fix. >> >> I downloaded the latest openssl, compiled it, and just copied over >> the ssh executable, problem solved. >> >> // Kim Bak > > OI hipster has openssl, wouldn't it be better just to install in-OI > package? > Or upgrade OI hipster installation? This depends on your needs, in my case, upgrades of linux based production systems broke some ssh based automation between our openindiana and linux servers. I would not recommend upgrading production systems to hipster, my fix is a bit hacky, but it took less than 5 minutes and it works flawlessly so far. > > It proved possible to upgrade from old /dev , via /hipster-2015 to > newest /hipster. > Possibly one can stop at 20140421 ISO /hipster snapshot without > 'entire' (osnet-incorporation 15677, userland-incorporation 6353) > > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss From cpforum at orange.fr Fri Jun 3 13:29:16 2016 From: cpforum at orange.fr (cpforum) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:29:16 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome applications locale bug Message-ID: <1761900100.13126.1464960556302.JavaMail.www@wwinf1j12> ? Gnome applications but one (keepassx) are not localized. env and locale are : $ env ... GDM_KEYBOARD_LAYOUT=fr oss_latin9 GDM_LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 GDMSESSION=gnome LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 bash $ locale LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_TIME="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_ALL= If I trace a gnome application Evince for example I found the problem sysconfig(_CONFIG_PAGESIZE) = 4096 open("/usr/lib/locale//fr_FR.UTF-8/LC_CTYPE/LCL_DATA", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat(3, 0x080473B8) = 0 mmap(0x00000000, 94904, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xFD597000 close(3) = 0 mmap(0x00010000, 131072, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON|MAP_ALIGN, -1, 0) = 0xFD570000 munmap(0xFD597000, 94904) = 0 open("/usr/lib/locale//fr_FR.UTF-8/LC_NUMERIC/LCL_DATA", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat(3, 0x080473D8) = 0 read(3, " ,\nC2A0\n 3\n", 7) = 7 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/locale//fr_FR.UTF-8/LC_TIME/LCL_DATA", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat(3, 0x080473D8) = 0 read(3, " j a n v .\n fC3A9 v r .".., 319) = 319 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/locale//fr_FR.UTF-8/LC_COLLATE/LCL_DATA", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat(3, 0x08047418) = 0 mmap(0x00000000, 75408, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xFD59C000 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/locale//fr_FR.UTF-8/LC_MONETARY/LCL_DATA", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat(3, 0x080473C8) = 0 read(3, " E U R \nE282AC\n ,\nC2".., 47) = 47 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/lib/locale//fr_FR.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/LCL_DATA", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat(3, 0x080473D8) = 0 read(3, " ^ ( ( [ o O ] ( [ u U ]".., 82) = 82 close(3) = 0 open("/usr/share/locale/fr_FR.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/evince.mo", O_RDONLY) Err#2 ENOENT <<<<< Here is the bug Unfortunatly there is no /usr/share/locale/fr_FR.UTF-8 directory. The name is just /usr/share/locale/fr and it's the same for all locale. I tried the following workaround cd /usr/share/local ln -s fr /fr_FR.UTF-8 Then all Gnome applications become localized. I think the workaround is not the good solution The question is where fr_FR.UTF-8 come from : - env variable ? - gnome conf file ? - gnome property ? - ? Any idea ? ? From marcel at telka.sk Fri Jun 3 13:46:00 2016 From: marcel at telka.sk (Marcel Telka) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:46:00 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome applications locale bug In-Reply-To: <1761900100.13126.1464960556302.JavaMail.www@wwinf1j12> References: <1761900100.13126.1464960556302.JavaMail.www@wwinf1j12> Message-ID: <20160603134600.GF1967@telcontar> On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 03:29:16PM +0200, cpforum wrote: > Unfortunatly there is no /usr/share/locale/fr_FR.UTF-8 directory. The name is > just /usr/share/locale/fr and it's the same for all locale. Try to install the system/install/locale package. -- +-------------------------------------------+ | Marcel Telka e-mail: marcel at telka.sk | | homepage: http://telka.sk/ | | jabber: marcel at jabber.sk | +-------------------------------------------+ From cpforum at orange.fr Fri Jun 3 14:23:40 2016 From: cpforum at orange.fr (cpforum) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:23:40 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome applications locale bug In-Reply-To: <20160603134600.GF1967@telcontar> References: <1761900100.13126.1464960556302.JavaMail.www@wwinf1j12> <20160603134600.GF1967@telcontar> Message-ID: <1424301192.14382.1464963820066.JavaMail.www@wwinf1j12> ? ? ? ? ? > Message du 03/06/16 15:46 > De : "Marcel Telka" > A : "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" > Copie ? : > Objet : Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome applications locale bug > > On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 03:29:16PM +0200, cpforum wrote: > > Unfortunatly there is no /usr/share/locale/fr_FR.UTF-8 directory. The name is > > just /usr/share/locale/fr and it's the same for all locale. > > Try to install the system/install/locale package. Yes system/install/locale do the job. Thank's. > > -- > +-------------------------------------------+ > | Marcel Telka e-mail: marcel at telka.sk | > | homepage: http://telka.sk/ | > | jabber: marcel at jabber.sk | > +-------------------------------------------+ > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Fri Jun 3 14:35:50 2016 From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Predrag_Ze=c4=8devi=c4=87_-_Unix_Systems_Administrator?=) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:35:50 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome applications locale bug In-Reply-To: <1424301192.14382.1464963820066.JavaMail.www@wwinf1j12> References: <1761900100.13126.1464960556302.JavaMail.www@wwinf1j12> <20160603134600.GF1967@telcontar> <1424301192.14382.1464963820066.JavaMail.www@wwinf1j12> Message-ID: <575195C6.2010807@2e-systems.com> On 06/ 3/16 04:23 PM, cpforum wrote: >> Message du 03/06/16 15:46 >> De : "Marcel Telka" >> A : "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" >> Copie ? : >> Objet : Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome applications locale bug >> >> On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 03:29:16PM +0200, cpforum wrote: >>> Unfortunatly there is no /usr/share/locale/fr_FR.UTF-8 directory. The name is >>> just /usr/share/locale/fr and it's the same for all locale. >> >> Try to install the system/install/locale package. > Yes system/install/locale do the job. Thank's. > Hi, I did installed it to (on my /hipster). $ pfexec pkg install -v system/install/locale Packages to install: 1 Estimated space available: 106.48 GB Estimated space to be consumed: 179.61 MB Create boot environment: No Create backup boot environment: No Rebuild boot archive: No Changed packages: openindiana.org system/install/locale None -> 0.5.11-2013.0.0.0 ... Looks like it is bit old? Regards. >> >> -- >> +-------------------------------------------+ >> | Marcel Telka e-mail: marcel at telka.sk | >> | homepage: http://telka.sk/ | >> | jabber: marcel at jabber.sk | >> +-------------------------------------------+ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> openindiana-discuss mailing list >> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org >> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss >> > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- Predrag Ze?evi? 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From minikola at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 14:56:14 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:56:14 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ssh to servers with recent openssh In-Reply-To: <57516C95.9090304@gamereactor.dk> References: <573346D6.8070800@gamereactor.dk> <575148AD.9060802@gamereactor.dk> <57515BD4.90500@gmail.com> <57516C95.9090304@gamereactor.dk> Message-ID: <57519A8E.5090903@gmail.com> On 06/ 3/16 01:40 PM, Kim Bak wrote: > On 03/06/16 12:28, Nikola M wrote: >> OI hipster has openssl, wouldn't it be better just to install in-OI >> package? >> Or upgrade OI hipster installation? > > This depends on your needs, in my case, upgrades of linux based > production systems broke some ssh based automation between our > openindiana and linux servers. I would not recommend upgrading > production systems to hipster, my fix is a bit hacky, but it took less > than 5 minutes and it works flawlessly so far. I would recommend upgrading at least some production systems to OI hipster, because it actually gets security patches including newer illumos. I actually think it is ready to be treated like that. If /dev gets refreshed it would actually be some snapshot of hipster anyway, because there is nothing else but it, and OI hipster is currently in a very good shape, not to mention it is moving forward. So consider aether testing with OI hipster 20160421 snapshot or testing upgrade of some of your pre-production servers. No one says to follow everyday's changes in hipster for production (and yes it evolves on daily basis) , but in order to have it working for your likings in the future, it needs to be run somewhere , so you actually can steer it to be ready for you, in , say, next hipster snapshot after this and to be there at how things will be moving forward. Landing of hipster snapshot in refreshed /dev pretty much mimics what Opensolaris releases were about before and I know people used it in production as they were coming with updates, similar like 151a OI line did. You can include yourself in things going on so that they are going at your likings in the future. I bet you won't have a problem if you were running hipster snapshot and I know you wouldn't need to compile it yourself, and I am sure you would figure it out in advance and have a fix, way before you had any potential issue so solve. From adam.stevko at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 11:00:04 2016 From: adam.stevko at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Adam_=C5=A0tevko?=) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 13:00:04 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Community interest in illumos PF port? In-Reply-To: <573608F8.4010601@gmail.com> References: <5734F321.30205@oryx.us> <57356B2C.5000106@gmail.com> <5735FD4A.6040106@oracle.com> <57360193.7000808@gmail.com> <57360783.8080000@oracle.com> <573608F8.4010601@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, We promised to send a reply once we gathered some data, so here it is. From what alanc told us Oracle spent well over 2 engineer years working on their port. This would require high amount of money for a successfull crowdsourcing campaign. 27 people including us (Adam and Jorge) responded that we would like to see pf ported to illumos. However, all of us were individuals without a backing company to hack with some serious amount of funds. Based on this fact, we conclude that the crowdsourcing campaign would fail. Regards Adam and Jorge > On May 13, 2016, at 7:03 PM, Nikola M wrote: > > On 05/13/16 06:57 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: >> On 05/13/16 09:32 AM, Nikola M wrote: >>> On 05/13/16 06:14 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: >>>> >>>> Note: Manual intervention will be required to ensure PF rules implement the >>>> desired network policy." >>>> >>> >>> Thanks much Alanc. Was looking for something like that page. >>> >>> Does that mean that might happen inside 11.x as i see it mentions , so inside >>> S11 lifetime in one of the updates. >>> >>> As interesting as it is, it would surely need a separate project at illumos and >>> see no direct connection with illumos implementing it except, it is nice to have >>> it. >> >> The page doesn't specify exact releases to leave our options open, but the >> current plan is to have both IPfilter & PF in 11.x releases for a transition >> period, and then drop IPfilter in 12.0. As with all software plans, they're >> subject to change as we develop the code. > > That's what I was thinking by looking at that page also. > Thanks Alanc! > > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From Tim.Mooney at ndsu.edu Tue Jun 7 19:20:03 2016 From: Tim.Mooney at ndsu.edu (Tim Mooney) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 14:20:03 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Testing updates from /dev to /hipster-2015 and /hipster In-Reply-To: <1173652747.17666130.1462771223992.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net> References: <1173652747.17666130.1462771223992.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net> Message-ID: In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Testing updates from /dev to...: > Thanks for the great job. Sorry to follow up to a month-old post, but I wanted to give thanks and a "shout out" to Ben for posting these step-by-step instruction, which Nikola has replicated to the wiki: http://wiki.openindiana.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30802657 I wouldn't have been able to make it from /dev to hipster without these instructions. With Ben's instructions, the process went very smoothly. I do have a few comments and possible corrections about the process that I thought I would share, for others that are going to be attempting it. First: Nikola, shouldn't the wiki article be more obvious in giving credit to Ben for his post? alp and others have definitely provided valuable guidance, but it was Ben that filled in the gaps and provided a step-by-step process that people that are less-familiar with IPS could still easily follow. > I tested today the update from oi_151a9 to Hipster2015 to hipster. > It was a long journey. > The hardware is a Dell Precision T5400 (16GB of memory and 2 mirrored pools) > It took me the whole day as I have very poor IO performance on that hardware. I did the process on a Dell Precision T3600, with 32 GB of RAM. I have a fast Internet connection at work and this workstation hardware is quite good, so it didn't take me nearly as long as it took Ben. Before step 1, I personally added steps 0a & 0b. step 0a was to disable any network services that may be changing things on the box during this process. I'm specifically thinking about sendmail, but other services might also apply. The reason why is that if you do need to go back to an older boot environment, that older BE may be missing mail or other file changes that were made to one of the later BEs. step 0a: sudo svcs -a > services-before-hipster sudo svcadm disable svc:/network/sendmail:default It wasn't really necessary, but to keep them in sync I also did: sudo svcadm disable svc:/network/sendmail-client:default I also did a step 0b, where I gathered a little bit more information about what the starting step looked like, for both publishers and packages: step 0b: pkg list > pkg_list.txt pkg list | egrep sfe > pkg_list_sfe.txt pkg publisher > pkg_publisher.txt Continuing with Ben's procedure... I didn't make any changes to step 1: > Here is the process I followed for reference and for the doc project : > 1 - Create a BE to start and boot to it : > # beadm create -a Openindiana-HipUpdate-S1 > # reboot For step 2, there is one minor change I would recommend: > 2 - remove all packages from external repositories (like SFE/SFE-encumbered but SFWpackages as well) : > # pkginfo | grep SFW > # pkgrm SFW[whatevername] > # pkg uninstall --be-name Openindiana-HipUpdate-S2 `pkg list -v | egrep sfe | cut -d" " -f1` There is actually a package named '/driver/network/sfe' which accidentally matches the regex used in the last command (looking for packages from the sfe or sfe-encumbered repositories). To avoid uninstalling that driver, I changed the 'egrep sfe' in the last command in step 2 to 'egrep //sfe'. Even safer would be egrep '^pkg://sfe' which (assuming you used 'sfe' and 'sfe-encumbered' for your repository names for the spec files extra and spec files extra (encumbered) repositories) should match both add-on repositories. > 3 - Reboot to new env Openindiana-HipUpdate-S2 One question I have about step 4: > 4 - Remove external IPS publishers : > # pkg unset-publisher sfe > # pkg unset-publisher sfe-encumbered There's no place in Ben's guide that even mentions the other publisher that people that started on /dev might have, opensolaris.org Based on comments I've seen from alp, wouldn't step 4 be the logical place to *also* do pkg unset-publisher opensolaris.org ? I haven't actually done that yet, so I still have opensolaris.org showing up as a publisher, but I'm thinking it should be removed. > 5 - Change publisher to Hipster 2015 > # pkg set-publisher -g http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-2015 -G http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev openindiana.org > # pkg refresh --full > # pkg update --be-name Openindiana-HipUpdate-S3 I executed step 5 exactly as shown. I thought it might be useful for others to have some timings for this step, so for comparison - 'pkg refresh --full' took just under 2 minutes to complete. - the actual 'pkg update --be-name Openindiana-HipUpdate-S3' took - 14 minutes just for the planning stage, and at points during the planning stage the spinner was stalled. Doing a truss on the python process showed that is was repeatedly changing memory allocation using brk(). - after the plan phase finished, there were 99174 files totaling 1292 MB to download. With my network connection and I/O, that took another 10-15 minutes or so. - the post-download phases took another 5-10 minutes. At the very end of the process, I did receive a message about a few files and directories that were "salvaged": ----- The following unexpected or editable files and directories were salvaged while executing the requested package operation; they have been moved to the displayed location in the image: var/sadm/system/logs -> /tmp/tmpJxJO6L/var/pkg/lost+found/var/sadm/system/logs-20160606T171556Z var/sadm/system -> /tmp/tmpJxJO6L/var/pkg/lost+found/var/sadm/system-20160606T171556Z usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages -> /tmp/tmpJxJO6L/var/pkg/lost+found/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages-20160606T171557Z usr/lib/firefox/plugins -> /tmp/tmpJxJO6L/var/pkg/lost+found/usr/lib/firefox/plugins-20160606T171557Z etc/rad -> /tmp/tmpJxJO6L/var/pkg/lost+found/etc/rad-20160606T171557Z ---- None of them were of concern for me, so I continued with the next steps: > 6 - Reboot to Hipster 2015 > > 7 - Verify any leftovers > # pkg list |grep '0\.151\.1\.' > * must be empty * Ben's instructions had two steps that were numbered step 7. The first step 7 (above) didn't reveal any left-over packages, so I continued with the second step 7: > 7 - Install incorporations > # pkg install --no-backup-be userland-incorporation entire No problems from that, but it did output "No updates necessary for this image" Since my goal was to get to current hipster, I continued with the next steps: > 8 - Change publisher to Hipster > # pkg set-publisher -g http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster -G http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-2015 openindiana.org It wasn't listed in step 8, but I chose to also do a pkg refresh --full like had been done in step 5. > 9 - Update to latest Hipster > # pkg update --be-name OpenIndiana-Latest > # reboot Again for timing comparisons, the pkg update after switching from /hipster-2015 to /hipster took: - only about 2 minutes for the "plan" stage - involved 694 packages, totaling 13548 files in 494 MB. - the entire update, from start to finish, took a total of 9 minutes. > Now test extensively, reinstall missing applications, enable SFW for Hipster,.... I can't say I've tested extensively, but nearly everything I've tried has worked. Of note, my VirtualBox 4.3.30 install survived the transition from /dev to /hipster-2015 to /hipster and works just fine, including audio. A couple things I've noticed that aren't working: - the flash plugin isn't working with firefox 45.0.2. Not as big of a deal as it once would have been, because most of the YouTube stuff I've checked has played very well without flash. Since audio from my Windows 7 VirtualBox VM works, I can always use the VM for anything (like accessing our VMWare infrastructure) that truly requires flash. - since the graphical update manager is gone, root's existing cron job to run /usr/lib/update-manager/update-refresh.sh now just generates periodic error email. I just commented out the cron job. I also see that firefox 45.0.2 isn't happy with the Java plug-in: LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.7.0_80/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so [ld.so.1: firefox: fatal: relocation error: file /usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.7.0_80/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so: symbol __1cDstdMbasic_string4Ccn0ALchar_traits4Cc__n0AJallocator4Cc___J__nullref_: referenced symbol not found] Java web start continues to work, though, which is the only java/firefox bit I care about, since we have an important application that uses web start. After that amount of testing and things looking good enough for continued use, I decided I was staying with hipster rather than rolling back to the original boot environment. I therefore did the following: - re-enable sendmail and/or other services that were disabled at the start. sudo svcadm enable svc:/network/sendmail:default sudo svcadm enable svc:/network/sendmail-client:default - add the /hipster-encumbered publisher: sudo pkg set-publisher --non-sticky \ -g http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-encumbered hipster-encumbered I found the reference to that repo in a message alp had posted. - after adding /hipster-encumbered, I installed vlc, which pulled in more than a dozen additional dependencies. I'll have more to add yet, as the list I previously had from sfe & sfe-encumbered totaled about 60 packages. - add the opencsw spec files extra repo. I used the following (not certain this was the best way...): sudo pkg set-publisher --non-sticky \ -g http://sfe.opencsw.org/localhostoih/ \ --search-after=openindiana.org localhostoi Finally, since my OI /dev install had never had a working office suite, I finished up by installing openoffice from hipster: sudo pkg install -n pkg://openindiana.org/desktop/office/openoffice I had to use the full FMRI because I still have opensolaris.org as a publisher (see above) and it has an ancient version of openoffice. I actually would have preferred libreoffice4 from sfe, but the --search-after and --non-sticky options I used when setting up sfe/localhostoi mean that some of the dependencies can't replace versions from hipster. I may have to re-do my publisher for sfe/localhostoi Hope that all helps someone else to make the transition. Again, big thanks to Ben for posting the instructions. Tim -- Tim Mooney Tim.Mooney at ndsu.edu Enterprise Computing & Infrastructure 701-231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J6, Quentin Burdick Building 701-231-8541 (Fax) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105-5164 From minikola at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 20:48:34 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 22:48:34 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Testing updates from /dev to /hipster-2015 and /hipster In-Reply-To: References: <1173652747.17666130.1462771223992.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net> Message-ID: <57573322.1070307@gmail.com> On 06/ 7/16 09:20 PM, Tim Mooney wrote: > First: Nikola, shouldn't the wiki article be more obvious in giving > credit > to Ben for his post? Article written on Wiki is inspired by obviously useful stop-by-step procedure but is part of Openindiana. In the bottom of the post you will find "Article added as per testing manual shared by bentahyr on 20160509" with ML link, wich suffice more then enough. Those links are not needed actually but i think they are good to have. > alp and others have definitely provided valuable > guidance, but it was Ben that filled in the gaps and provided a > step-by-step process that people that are less-familiar with IPS could > still easily follow. We already had information of where /hipster-2015 is and how to change publishers and the same goes for move to new /hipster. bentahyr's post showed there is a need for people to have more detailed explained way of testing things, and it is valuable to kave it in mind in the future too. I personally were testing update in less steps (but a bit more reboots) so didn't feel the need for it, but step-by step sounded like a good idea to have and I am happy you found it out. Personally, I would call BE's by their names, like hipster-2015 but it is also good to have it on Wiki similar like described. > I did the process on a Dell Precision T3600, with 32 GB of RAM. I have a > fast Internet connection at work and this workstation hardware is > quite good, > so it didn't take me nearly as long as it took Ben. I were doing it on 1GB machine with disabled gdm and then on 2GB when jumping to /hipster. It lasted several hours (vanilla install) but it worked (and works). > > Before step 1, I personally added steps 0a & 0b. > > step 0a was to disable any network services that may be changing > things on > the box during this process. I'm specifically thinking about sendmail, > but other services might also apply. The reason why is that if you do > need to go back to an older boot environment, that older BE may be > missing mail or other file changes that were made to one of the later > BEs. It is recommended to have old environment untouched in it's BE and to start changes in a new BE so what you described sounds more like 1a/1b. It is true that if /var is shared with a new dataset, you might at least have snapshots. Btw in hipster /var is now moved to a new separate dataset by default and that sounds like a good practice (I keep also my /opt in separate rataset under rpool/SHARED/opt etc.) > > step 0a: > > sudo svcs -a > services-before-hipster > sudo svcadm disable svc:/network/sendmail:default Again i wouldn't do this befor making new BE and rebooting into new BE for testing update, because that way you can always go back to old working BE. I would call this as a good idea but suitable for 1a/1b step , regarding what services you have etc. > It wasn't really necessary, but to keep them in sync I also did: > > sudo svcadm disable svc:/network/sendmail-client:default > > I also did a step 0b, where I gathered a little bit more information > about > what the starting step looked like, for both publishers and packages: > > step 0b: > > pkg list > pkg_list.txt > pkg list | egrep sfe > pkg_list_sfe.txt > pkg publisher > pkg_publisher.txt I like these steps It can very well document the environment. > > Continuing with Ben's procedure... > > I didn't make any changes to step 1: > >> Here is the process I followed for reference and for the doc project : >> 1 - Create a BE to start and boot to it : >> # beadm create -a Openindiana-HipUpdate-S1 >> # reboot > > For step 2, there is one minor change I would recommend: > >> 2 - remove all packages from external repositories (like >> SFE/SFE-encumbered but SFWpackages as well) : >> # pkginfo | grep SFW >> # pkgrm SFW[whatevername] >> # pkg uninstall --be-name Openindiana-HipUpdate-S2 `pkg list -v | >> egrep sfe | cut -d" " -f1` > > There is actually a package named '/driver/network/sfe' which > accidentally > matches the regex used in the last command (looking for packages from the > sfe or sfe-encumbered repositories). To avoid uninstalling that driver, > I changed the 'egrep sfe' in the last command in step 2 to 'egrep //sfe'. > Even safer would be > > egrep '^pkg://sfe' This is good change. > > which (assuming you used 'sfe' and 'sfe-encumbered' for your repository > names for the spec files extra and spec files extra (encumbered) > repositories) should match both add-on repositories. > >> 3 - Reboot to new env Openindiana-HipUpdate-S2 > > One question I have about step 4: > >> 4 - Remove external IPS publishers : >> # pkg unset-publisher sfe >> # pkg unset-publisher sfe-encumbered > > There's no place in Ben's guide that even mentions the other publisher > that people that started on /dev might have, opensolaris.org > > Based on comments I've seen from alp, wouldn't step 4 be the logical > place to *also* do > > pkg unset-publisher opensolaris.org This is also good change. > > ? I haven't actually done that yet, so I still have opensolaris.org > showing up as a publisher, but I'm thinking it should be removed. > >> 5 - Change publisher to Hipster 2015 >> # pkg set-publisher -g http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-2015 -G >> http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev openindiana.org >> # pkg refresh --full >> # pkg update --be-name Openindiana-HipUpdate-S3 > > I executed step 5 exactly as shown. I thought it might be useful for > others to have some timings for this step, so for comparison > > - 'pkg refresh --full' took just under 2 minutes to complete. > - the actual 'pkg update --be-name Openindiana-HipUpdate-S3' took > - 14 minutes just for the planning stage, and at points during > the planning stage the spinner was stalled. Doing a truss on > the python process showed that is was repeatedly changing memory > allocation using brk(). > - after the plan phase finished, there were 99174 files totaling > 1292 MB to download. With my network connection and I/O, that > took another 10-15 minutes or so. > - the post-download phases took another 5-10 minutes. Process in hipster-2015 is long because there were many changes during the time (one of the reasons for jumping from /hipster to /hipster-2015 was to speed up IPS). I think it is sane idea to publish , say latest ISO hipster snapshot state of 20160121 to , say /dev-test, so that people can update to it from /dev and see how things are going. (Some people might choose to stay with snapshots for production). That goes into idea of having /dev updated with changed 20160121, adding packagemanager and updatemenager GUIs again and 151a branded zone and to have an update appear to all current /dev users. > > At the very end of the process, I did receive a message about a few files > and directories that were "salvaged": > > ----- > > The following unexpected or editable files and directories were > salvaged while executing the requested package operation; they > have been moved to the displayed location in the image: > > var/sadm/system/logs -> > /tmp/tmpJxJO6L/var/pkg/lost+found/var/sadm/system/logs-20160606T171556Z > var/sadm/system -> > /tmp/tmpJxJO6L/var/pkg/lost+found/var/sadm/system-20160606T171556Z > usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages -> > /tmp/tmpJxJO6L/var/pkg/lost+found/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages-20160606T171557Z > > usr/lib/firefox/plugins -> > /tmp/tmpJxJO6L/var/pkg/lost+found/usr/lib/firefox/plugins-20160606T171557Z > > etc/rad -> /tmp/tmpJxJO6L/var/pkg/lost+found/etc/rad-20160606T171557Z > > ---- > > None of them were of concern for me, so I continued with the next steps: > > >> 6 - Reboot to Hipster 2015 >> >> 7 - Verify any leftovers >> # pkg list |grep '0\.151\.1\.' >> * must be empty * > > Ben's instructions had two steps that were numbered step 7. The first > step 7 (above) didn't reveal any left-over packages, so I continued > with the second step 7: > >> 7 - Install incorporations >> # pkg install --no-backup-be userland-incorporation entire > > No problems from that, but it did output > > "No updates necessary for this image" > > Since my goal was to get to current hipster, I continued with the > next steps: > >> 8 - Change publisher to Hipster >> # pkg set-publisher -g http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster -G >> http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-2015 openindiana.org > > It wasn't listed in step 8, but I chose to also do a > > pkg refresh --full > > like had been done in step 5. > >> 9 - Update to latest Hipster >> # pkg update --be-name OpenIndiana-Latest >> # reboot > > Again for timing comparisons, the pkg update after switching from > /hipster-2015 to /hipster took: > - only about 2 minutes for the "plan" stage > - involved 694 packages, totaling 13548 files in 494 MB. > - the entire update, from start to finish, took a total of 9 minutes. > > >> Now test extensively, reinstall missing applications, enable SFW for >> Hipster,.... > > I can't say I've tested extensively, but nearly everything I've tried has > worked. Of note, my VirtualBox 4.3.30 install survived the transition > from /dev to /hipster-2015 to /hipster and works just fine, including > audio. > > A couple things I've noticed that aren't working: > > - the flash plugin isn't working with firefox 45.0.2. Not as big of a > deal as it once would have been, because most of the YouTube stuff I've > checked has played very well without flash. Since audio from my > Windows > 7 VirtualBox VM works, I can always use the VM for anything (like > accessing our VMWare infrastructure) that truly requires flash. > - since the graphical update manager is gone, root's existing cron > job to run /usr/lib/update-manager/update-refresh.sh now just > generates periodic error email. I just commented out the cron job. > > I also see that firefox 45.0.2 isn't happy with the Java plug-in: > > LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library > /usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.7.0_80/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so [ld.so.1: > firefox: fatal: relocation error: file > /usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.7.0_80/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so: symbol > __1cDstdMbasic_string4Ccn0ALchar_traits4Cc__n0AJallocator4Cc___J__nullref_: > referenced symbol not found] > > > Java web start continues to work, though, which is the only java/firefox > bit I care about, since we have an important application that uses web > start. > > After that amount of testing and things looking good enough for continued > use, I decided I was staying with hipster rather than rolling back to > the original boot environment. I therefore did the following: > > - re-enable sendmail and/or other services that were disabled at the > start. > > sudo svcadm enable svc:/network/sendmail:default > sudo svcadm enable svc:/network/sendmail-client:default > > - add the /hipster-encumbered publisher: > > sudo pkg set-publisher --non-sticky \ > -g http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-encumbered > hipster-encumbered i just need to say that I don't have anything set as non-sticky, since new installs probably won't have that and i like to be in "the boots" of every user and that helps testing packages and installing them. > > I found the reference to that repo in a message alp had posted. > > - after adding /hipster-encumbered, I installed vlc, which pulled in more > than a dozen additional dependencies. I'll have more to add yet, as > the > list I previously had from sfe & sfe-encumbered totaled about 60 > packages. I tend to install everything from hipster-encumbered, to make surte I don't miss something multimedia-wise. > > - add the opencsw spec files extra repo. I used the following (not > certain this was the best way...): > > sudo pkg set-publisher --non-sticky \ > -g http://sfe.opencsw.org/localhostoih/ \ > --search-after=openindiana.org localhostoi Alos not sure if non-sticky is needed here. If it misbihaves with some package installing it's a bug and it needs to be reported and -non-sticky might put them under the carpet or so. > Finally, since my OI /dev install had never had a working office suite, > I finished up by installing openoffice from hipster: > > sudo pkg install -n pkg://openindiana.org/desktop/office/openoffice There is also working LibreOffice form SFE (http://sfe.opencsw.org/localhostoih/ localhostoih) If you can, you can help with un-stucking Openoffice bug that prevent saving ODT files, too. > > I had to use the full FMRI because I still have opensolaris.org as a > publisher (see above) and it has an ancient version of openoffice. Ia also keep OO.org 3 but I am keeping it in /opt, since version unpacked from archive were newer anyway. > I actually would have preferred libreoffice4 from sfe, but the > --search-after and --non-sticky options I used when setting up > sfe/localhostoi mean that some of the dependencies can't replace versions > from hipster. I may have to re-do my publisher for sfe/localhostoi Currently there are few more steps regarding C++ libraries collisions between SFE and OI hipster, but there are steps explained on SFE page to avoid them. As I know it is not resolved yet as I know (correct me if anything is new on this). > > Hope that all helps someone else to make the transition. Again, big > thanks to Ben for posting the instructions. Thank you to for relaying your experiences and recommendations, too :) I hope you will keep hipster-2015 BE around, and your old /dev, too, so you can possibly do more testing with updating. /hipster is and will be moving target and we need something not moving as sure update target. From alp at rsu.ru Wed Jun 8 07:36:21 2016 From: alp at rsu.ru (Alexander Pyhalov) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 10:36:21 +0300 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Testing updates from /dev to /hipster-2015 and /hipster In-Reply-To: References: <1173652747.17666130.1462771223992.JavaMail.root@zimbra53-e8.priv.proxad.net> Message-ID: <5757CAF5.7080903@rsu.ru> Hi. Thanks for the detailed report. On 06/ 7/16 10:20 PM, Tim Mooney wrote: > I also see that firefox 45.0.2 isn't happy with the Java plug-in: > > LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library > /usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.7.0_80/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so [ld.so.1: > firefox: fatal: relocation error: file > /usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.7.0_80/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so: symbol > __1cDstdMbasic_string4Ccn0ALchar_traits4Cc__n0AJallocator4Cc___J__nullref_: > referenced symbol not found] I suppose it's related to studio/GNU C++ ABI incompatiblity. However, you can try using web/browser/firefox/plugin/firefox-java , which is essentially icedtea firefox plugin. > Finally, since my OI /dev install had never had a working office suite, > I finished up by installing openoffice from hipster: > > sudo pkg install -n pkg://openindiana.org/desktop/office/openoffice > > I had to use the full FMRI because I still have opensolaris.org as a > publisher (see above) and it has an ancient version of openoffice. > > I actually would have preferred libreoffice4 from sfe, but the > --search-after and --non-sticky options I used when setting up > sfe/localhostoi mean that some of the dependencies can't replace versions > from hipster. I may have to re-do my publisher for sfe/localhostoi Libreoffice seems to work better. You can specify exact packages and publishers for IPS, something like "pkg install pkg://sfe/*/libreoffice pkg://sfe/system/library/g++/boost ..." -- Best regards, Alexander Pyhalov, system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Thu Jun 9 07:54:23 2016 From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Predrag_Ze=c4=8devi=c4=87_-_Unix_Systems_Administrator?=) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 09:54:23 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Latest /hipster firefox update news Message-ID: <575920AF.2010303@2e-systems.com> Hi all, just as INFO: latest firefox update on /hipster OI to version: $ pkg list firefox NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION IFO web/browser/firefox (openindiana.org) 45.2.0-2016.0.0.0 i-- made FF able to do spell checking again (tested only DE and EN variants). With best regards. Predrag Ze?evi? -- Predrag Ze?evi? 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From minikola at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 13:16:52 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 15:16:52 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Latest /hipster firefox update news In-Reply-To: <575920AF.2010303@2e-systems.com> References: <575920AF.2010303@2e-systems.com> Message-ID: <57596C44.9000004@gmail.com> On 06/ 9/16 09:54 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: > Hi all, > > just as INFO: latest firefox update on /hipster OI to version: > $ pkg list firefox > NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION IFO > web/browser/firefox (openindiana.org) 45.2.0-2016.0.0.0 i-- > > made FF able to do spell checking again (tested only DE and EN variants). > > With best regards. > Predrag Ze?evi? Confirming (for English) :) From udo.grabowski at kit.edu Thu Jun 9 14:46:17 2016 From: udo.grabowski at kit.edu (Udo Grabowski (IMK)) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 16:46:17 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing Hipster Message-ID: <57598139.1020801@kit.edu> A seemingly very simple question: - How to install a fresh (nonupdate) complete new Hipster instance from an old /dev OI into a new BE ? Tried hard, but it seems that this is impossible to do without rebooting into the new BE. All attempts end with pkg referring to installed packages of the running system (and denying because of conflicting packages, etc.pp....). We just want a pristine /hipster on its own zfs filesystem without changing or halting the running system. -- Dr.Udo Grabowski Inst.f.Meteorology & Climate Research IMK-ASF-SAT http://www.imk-asf.kit.edu/english/sat.php KIT - Karlsruhe Institute of Technology http://www.kit.edu Postfach 3640,76021 Karlsruhe,Germany T:(+49)721 608-26026 F:-926026 From peter.tribble at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 16:26:52 2016 From: peter.tribble at gmail.com (Peter Tribble) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 17:26:52 +0100 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing Hipster In-Reply-To: <57598139.1020801@kit.edu> References: <57598139.1020801@kit.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: > A seemingly very simple question: > > - How to install a fresh (nonupdate) complete new Hipster > instance from an old /dev OI into a new BE ? > > Tried hard, but it seems that this is impossible to do without > rebooting into the new BE. All attempts end with pkg referring > to installed packages of the running system (and denying because > of conflicting packages, etc.pp....). We just want a pristine > /hipster on its own zfs filesystem without changing or halting > the running system. I've implemented a couple of variants of this idea for Tribblix. 1. Boot from live media and have an alternative installer that differs from the normal installer in that it uses the existing rpool rather than creating a new one. The advantage of this method is that you're using the same bits to do the install that you're actually installing, which greatly simplifies matters. 2. Install a zone from an arbitrary ISO. (In practice, the script has to know how each distro builds the ISO, so it's not entirely arbitrary.) The script I use is at the URL below, you could probably modify it to install into an alternate BE - about the only change you would need is to not delete /boot /kernel and /devices. You then need to fiddle the grub menu. And I'm not sure whether the manual removal of the live image piece is correct for hipster, as the last time I ran this for OI was pre-hipster. Note that I never invoke pkg at all. https://github.com/tribblix/tribblix-zones/blob/master/usr/lib/brand/alien-root/live-iso-unpack So it's possible, but will probably involve some fiddling. -- -Peter Tribble http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ From minikola at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 16:29:59 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 18:29:59 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing Hipster In-Reply-To: <57598139.1020801@kit.edu> References: <57598139.1020801@kit.edu> Message-ID: <57599987.7060707@gmail.com> On 06/ 9/16 04:46 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: > A seemingly very simple question: > > - How to install a fresh (nonupdate) complete new Hipster > instance from an old /dev OI into a new BE ? There is a manual on wiki for complicated but detailed manual install (http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Advanced+-+Manual+installation+of+OpenIndiana+from+LiveCD+media). I used to do fresh install while keeping existing ones by installing OI hipster in VirtualBox, having network between host OS (Older OI) and doing zfs send/receive. (I firstly made new BE with beadm create, mounted it with beadm mount /mnt, removed everything in it, bedam unmount, and after receiving zfs receive from VirtualBox I did beadm activate and was booting in fresh install. It is true there is no option in installer (both GUI installer and text installer) to install fresh into new empty BE on existing system. People are invited to make it happen by changing installers with adding that option. I would like it could be done to do fresh install using pkg operations, like beadm mount BEname /mnt pkg image-create /mnt , pkg -R /mnt set-publisher -g http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/ openindiana.org ,pkg -R /mnt refresh , pkg -R /mnt install entire But couldn't be done (just tried) , at least it is an idea :) Maybe dissecting installer source and commands can say what it is doing when doing fresh install, and that is one step closer to patching it to support fresh install on new zfs dataset/BE. > Tried hard, but it seems that this is impossible to do without > rebooting into the new BE. Every time illumos is updated (osnet-incorporation in OI hipster), new BE is created and reboot is needed to start system from the new BE. Rebootless operation is not supported after Solaris 8/9 (a la ksplice), illumos people generally argue it is not needed and regard rebootless kernel updates as complication to avoid. > All attempts end with pkg referring > to installed packages of the running system (and denying because > of conflicting packages, etc.pp....). We just want a pristine > /hipster on its own zfs filesystem without changing or halting > the running system. Try that VirtualBox zfs send trick. I installed like that from 20141010, then updated to hipster-2015 and now I am on /hipster, still retaining /dev install for testing. Or play with manual install form LiveDVD at Wiki. From udo.grabowski at kit.edu Thu Jun 9 16:41:38 2016 From: udo.grabowski at kit.edu (Udo Grabowski (IMK)) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 18:41:38 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing Hipster In-Reply-To: References: <57598139.1020801@kit.edu> Message-ID: <57599C42.1030101@kit.edu> On 09/06/2016 18:26, Peter Tribble wrote: > On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) > wrote: > >> A seemingly very simple question: >> >> - How to install a fresh (nonupdate) complete new Hipster >> instance from an old /dev OI into a new BE ? >>... > > I've implemented a couple of variants of this idea for Tribblix. > > 1. Boot from live media and have an alternative installer that differs > from the normal installer in that it uses the existing rpool rather than > creating a new one. The advantage of this method is that you're using > the same bits to do the install that you're actually installing, which > greatly simplifies matters. That's probably the more sane solution, booting into a live VM on the running machine and somehow present a mounted new (and empty) BE from the running machine to the VM; so the new pkg is used which seems to be needed (see my next answer to Nikola). We can't yet boot the running host into a live CD, since that is a production machine. > > 2. Install a zone from an arbitrary ISO. (In practice, the script has to > know how each distro builds the ISO, so it's not entirely arbitrary.) > The script I use is at the URL below, you could probably modify it > to install into an alternate BE - about the only change you would > need is to not delete /boot /kernel and /devices. You then need to > fiddle the grub menu. And I'm not sure whether the manual removal > of the live image piece is correct for hipster, as the last time I ran this > for OI was pre-hipster. Note that I never invoke pkg at all. > > https://github.com/tribblix/tribblix-zones/blob/master/usr/lib/brand/alien-root/live-iso-unpack > > So it's possible, but will probably involve some fiddling. > Yes, that's the pedestrian's solution, I thought I could avoid that since I've done the reverse cumbersome action a couple of times when changing boot-archives in live CD's ... it's not the fastest way to get there. But I think that's currently the only way I know how to proceed without any further unknown problems blocking progress. Thanks for help ! -- Dr.Udo Grabowski Inst.f.Meteorology & Climate Research IMK-ASF-SAT http://www.imk-asf.kit.edu/english/sat.php KIT - Karlsruhe Institute of Technology http://www.kit.edu Postfach 3640,76021 Karlsruhe,Germany T:(+49)721 608-26026 F:-926026 From udo.grabowski at kit.edu Thu Jun 9 16:58:20 2016 From: udo.grabowski at kit.edu (Udo Grabowski (IMK)) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 18:58:20 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing Hipster In-Reply-To: <57599987.7060707@gmail.com> References: <57598139.1020801@kit.edu> <57599987.7060707@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5759A02C.3020403@kit.edu> On 09/06/2016 18:29, Nikola M wrote: > On 06/ 9/16 04:46 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: >> A seemingly very simple question: >> >> - How to install a fresh (nonupdate) complete new Hipster instance from an >> old /dev OI into a new BE ? > > There is a manual on wiki for complicated but detailed manual install > (http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Advanced+-+Manual+installation+of+OpenIndiana+from+LiveCD+media). > That's more or less the method Peter described, which I will try next. > It is true there is no option in installer (both GUI installer and text > installer) to install fresh into new empty BE on existing system. People are > invited to make it happen by changing installers with adding that option. Thinking about that (in face of the problems I've encountered), I'm now convinced that that is logically not possible, since the install process sometimes needs features only available in the new pkg and its environment. > > I would like it could be done to do fresh install using pkg operations, like > beadm mount BEname /mnt pkg image-create /mnt , pkg -R /mnt set-publisher -g > http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/ openindiana.org ,pkg -R /mnt refresh , > pkg -R /mnt install entire But couldn't be done (just tried) , at least it is > an idea :) Maybe dissecting installer source and commands can say what it is > doing when doing fresh install, and that is one step closer to patching it to > support fresh install on new zfs dataset/BE. > Funny, exactly this was what we tried after my initial mail. Set up a second independent local repository (we already have one for /dev) (see https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23824_01/html/E21803/glrai.html how to do that), then (insane hack!) changed all references to openindiana.org in all files to hipster (since pkg is not happy with 2 openindiana.org instances), pkgrepo rebuild, then pkg image-create onto the blank new BE, then tried to install entire; but that installed nearly nothing. So tried '*' instead, which seemed to succeed, but ended here: /hipster# pkg -R /hipster install -g http://server:10001/hipster/ '*' Creating Plan \ pkg install: No matching version of SUNWsmcmd can be installed: Reject: pkg://hipster/SUNWsmcmd at 5.0.9,5.11-0.130:20160509T104252Z Reason: All acceptable versions of 'require' dependency on pkg:/SUNWnet-snmp-utils at 5.4.1,5.11-0.132 are obsolete No matching version of SUNWnet-snmp-utils can be installed: Reject: pkg://hipster/SUNWnet-snmp-utils at 5.4.1,5.11-0.132:20160509T104126Z Reason: All acceptable versions of 'require' dependency on pkg:/SUNWnet-snmp-core at 5.4.1,5.11-0.133 are obsolete No matching version of SUNWsmmgr can be installed: Reject: pkg://hipster/SUNWsmmgr at 5.0.9,5.11-0.130:20160509T104254Z Reason: All acceptable versions of 'require' dependency on pkg:/SUNWnet-snmp-core at 5.4.1,5.11-0.133 are obsolete No matching version of web/amp can be installed: Reject: pkg://hipster/web/amp at 0.5.11,5.11-2015.0.2.0:20151027T090249Z Reason: A version for 'require' dependency on pkg:/metapackages/amp at 0.5.11,5.11-2015.0.2.0 cannot be found No matching version of SUNWproduct-registry-root can be installed: Reject: pkg://hipster/SUNWproduct-registry-root at 0.5.11,5.11-0.130:20160509T104157Z Reason: All acceptable versions of 'require' dependency on pkg:/system/management/product-registry at 0.5.11,5.11-0.151 are obsolete Ok, don't need them now, so changed their package entries to 'obsolete', pkgrepo rebuild again, hooray!, download succeeds, but just before the end of the install phase plunged into a hole: /hipster# pkg -R /hipster install -g http://server:10001/hipster/ '*' Packages to install: 2415 Mediators to change: 20 Create boot environment: No Create backup boot environment: No Services to change: 15 DOWNLOAD PKGS FILES XFER (MB) Completed 2415/2415 389709/389709 5127.5/5127.5 PHASE ACTIONS Install Phase 44637/476854Action install failed for 'powerdns' (pkg://hipster/service/network/dns/powerdns-recursor): KeyError: 'getgrnam(): name not found: powerdns' The Boot Environment hipster-2016 failed to be updated. A snapshot was taken before the failed attempt and has been restored so no changes have been made to hipster-2016. pkg: An unexpected error happened during install: 'getgrnam(): name not found: powerdns' Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/pkg", line 5975, in handle_errors __ret = func(*args, **kwargs) File "/usr/bin/pkg", line 5958, in main_func pargs=pargs, **opts) File "/usr/bin/pkg", line 2275, in install update_index=update_index) File "/usr/bin/pkg", line 1604, in __api_op ret_code = __api_execute_plan(_op, _api_inst) File "/usr/bin/pkg", line 1290, in __api_execute_plan api_inst.execute_plan() File "/usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/pkg/client/api.py", line 2177, in execute_plan self._img.imageplan.execute() File "/usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/pkg/client/imageplan.py", line 2970, in execute p.execute_install(src, dest) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/pkg/client/pkgplan.py", line 446, in execute_install dest.install(self, src) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/pkg/actions/user.py", line 126, in install self.attrs["group"])) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/pkg/client/image.py", line 3592, in get_group_by_name self.type != IMG_USER) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/pkg/portable/os_unix.py", line 103, in get_group_by_name return grp.getgrnam(name).gr_gid KeyError: 'getgrnam(): name not found: powerdns' "pkg: This is an internal error in pkg(5) version 1b157a5cc2c4+. Please log a Service Request about this issue including the information above and this message." So this seems to be one of those newer services the old pkg and host libraries do not have, so no way to do that from the old host. Thanks for your detailed suggestions! -- Dr.Udo Grabowski Inst.f.Meteorology & Climate Research IMK-ASF-SAT http://www.imk-asf.kit.edu/english/sat.php KIT - Karlsruhe Institute of Technology http://www.kit.edu Postfach 3640,76021 Karlsruhe,Germany T:(+49)721 608-26026 F:-926026 From minikola at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 17:17:05 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 19:17:05 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing Hipster In-Reply-To: <5759A02C.3020403@kit.edu> References: <57598139.1020801@kit.edu> <57599987.7060707@gmail.com> <5759A02C.3020403@kit.edu> Message-ID: <5759A491.9090309@gmail.com> On 06/ 9/16 06:58 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: > Thanks for your detailed suggestions! zfs send/receive over network, from fresh install in VirtualBox works for me :) Still using same install after numerous updates. From jimklimov at cos.ru Thu Jun 9 23:19:19 2016 From: jimklimov at cos.ru (Jim Klimov) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 01:19:19 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing Hipster In-Reply-To: <5759A02C.3020403@kit.edu> References: <57598139.1020801@kit.edu> <57599987.7060707@gmail.com> <5759A02C.3020403@kit.edu> Message-ID: <5A8D30BB-E4FA-4579-AC81-26523FAC894E@cos.ru> 9 ???? 2016??. 18:58:20 CEST, "Udo Grabowski (IMK)" ?????: >On 09/06/2016 18:29, Nikola M wrote: >> On 06/ 9/16 04:46 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: >>> A seemingly very simple question: >>> >>> - How to install a fresh (nonupdate) complete new Hipster instance >from an >>> old /dev OI into a new BE ? >> >> There is a manual on wiki for complicated but detailed manual install >> >(http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Advanced+-+Manual+installation+of+OpenIndiana+from+LiveCD+media). >> >That's more or less the method Peter described, which I will try next. > > >> It is true there is no option in installer (both GUI installer and >text >> installer) to install fresh into new empty BE on existing system. >People are >> invited to make it happen by changing installers with adding that >option. > >Thinking about that (in face of the problems I've encountered), I'm now >convinced that that is logically not possible, since the install >process >sometimes needs features only available in the new pkg and its >environment. > >> >> I would like it could be done to do fresh install using pkg >operations, like >> beadm mount BEname /mnt pkg image-create /mnt , pkg -R /mnt >set-publisher -g >> http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/ openindiana.org ,pkg -R /mnt >refresh , >> pkg -R /mnt install entire But couldn't be done (just tried) , at >least it is >> an idea :) Maybe dissecting installer source and commands can say >what it is >> doing when doing fresh install, and that is one step closer to >patching it to >> support fresh install on new zfs dataset/BE. >> > >Funny, exactly this was what we tried after my initial mail. >Set up a second independent local repository (we already have one for >/dev) >(see https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23824_01/html/E21803/glrai.html how to >do >that), then (insane hack!) changed all references to openindiana.org >in all files to hipster (since pkg is not happy with 2 openindiana.org >instances), pkgrepo rebuild, then pkg image-create onto the blank new >BE, >then tried to install entire; but that installed nearly nothing. So >tried >'*' instead, which seemed to succeed, but ended here: > >/hipster# pkg -R /hipster install -g http://server:10001/hipster/ '*' >Creating Plan \ >pkg install: No matching version of SUNWsmcmd can be installed: > Reject: pkg://hipster/SUNWsmcmd at 5.0.9,5.11-0.130:20160509T104252Z > Reason: All acceptable versions of 'require' dependency on >pkg:/SUNWnet-snmp-utils at 5.4.1,5.11-0.132 are obsolete >No matching version of SUNWnet-snmp-utils can be installed: >Reject: >pkg://hipster/SUNWnet-snmp-utils at 5.4.1,5.11-0.132:20160509T104126Z > Reason: All acceptable versions of 'require' dependency on >pkg:/SUNWnet-snmp-core at 5.4.1,5.11-0.133 are obsolete >No matching version of SUNWsmmgr can be installed: > Reject: pkg://hipster/SUNWsmmgr at 5.0.9,5.11-0.130:20160509T104254Z > Reason: All acceptable versions of 'require' dependency on >pkg:/SUNWnet-snmp-core at 5.4.1,5.11-0.133 are obsolete >No matching version of web/amp can be installed: > Reject: pkg://hipster/web/amp at 0.5.11,5.11-2015.0.2.0:20151027T090249Z > Reason: A version for 'require' dependency on >pkg:/metapackages/amp at 0.5.11,5.11-2015.0.2.0 cannot be found >No matching version of SUNWproduct-registry-root can be installed: > Reject: >pkg://hipster/SUNWproduct-registry-root at 0.5.11,5.11-0.130:20160509T104157Z > Reason: All acceptable versions of 'require' dependency on >pkg:/system/management/product-registry at 0.5.11,5.11-0.151 are obsolete > >Ok, don't need them now, so changed their package entries to >'obsolete', >pkgrepo rebuild again, hooray!, download succeeds, but just before >the end of the install phase plunged into a hole: > >/hipster# pkg -R /hipster install -g http://server:10001/hipster/ '*' > Packages to install: 2415 > Mediators to change: 20 > Create boot environment: No >Create backup boot environment: No > Services to change: 15 > >DOWNLOAD PKGS FILES XFER (MB) >Completed 2415/2415 389709/389709 >5127.5/5127.5 > >PHASE ACTIONS >Install Phase 44637/476854Action install >failed for >'powerdns' (pkg://hipster/service/network/dns/powerdns-recursor): > KeyError: 'getgrnam(): name not found: powerdns' >The Boot Environment hipster-2016 failed to be updated. A snapshot was >taken >before the failed attempt and has been restored so no changes have been >made to >hipster-2016. >pkg: An unexpected error happened during install: 'getgrnam(): name not >found: >powerdns' >Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/pkg", line 5975, in handle_errors > __ret = func(*args, **kwargs) > File "/usr/bin/pkg", line 5958, in main_func > pargs=pargs, **opts) > File "/usr/bin/pkg", line 2275, in install > update_index=update_index) > File "/usr/bin/pkg", line 1604, in __api_op > ret_code = __api_execute_plan(_op, _api_inst) > File "/usr/bin/pkg", line 1290, in __api_execute_plan > api_inst.execute_plan() >File "/usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/pkg/client/api.py", line 2177, >in >execute_plan > self._img.imageplan.execute() >File "/usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/pkg/client/imageplan.py", line >2970, >in execute > p.execute_install(src, dest) >File "/usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/pkg/client/pkgplan.py", line >446, in >execute_install > dest.install(self, src) >File "/usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/pkg/actions/user.py", line >126, in >install > self.attrs["group"])) >File "/usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/pkg/client/image.py", line >3592, in >get_group_by_name > self.type != IMG_USER) >File "/usr/lib/python2.6/vendor-packages/pkg/portable/os_unix.py", line >103, >in get_group_by_name > return grp.getgrnam(name).gr_gid >KeyError: 'getgrnam(): name not found: powerdns' > >"pkg: This is an internal error in pkg(5) version 1b157a5cc2c4+. >Please log a >Service Request about this issue including the information above and >this >message." > >So this seems to be one of those newer services the old pkg and >host libraries do not have, so no way to do that from the old host. > >Thanks for your detailed suggestions! Just in case: isn't getgrnam() a getter of group name? Maybe just adding the account to original (or half-updated) BE would fix it? A different question is why the call fails, e.g. maybe there are issues in hipster recipes... Jim -- Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android From udo.grabowski at kit.edu Fri Jun 10 14:52:23 2016 From: udo.grabowski at kit.edu (Udo Grabowski (IMK)) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 16:52:23 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing Hipster In-Reply-To: <5A8D30BB-E4FA-4579-AC81-26523FAC894E@cos.ru> References: <57598139.1020801@kit.edu> <57599987.7060707@gmail.com> <5759A02C.3020403@kit.edu> <5A8D30BB-E4FA-4579-AC81-26523FAC894E@cos.ru> Message-ID: <575AD427.9090107@kit.edu> On 10/06/2016 01:19, Jim Klimov wrote: >>> 9 ???? 2016 ?. 18:58:20 CEST, "Udo Grabowski (IMK)" ?????: >>>.... >> PHASE ACTIONS >> Install Phase 44637/476854Action install >> failed for >> 'powerdns' (pkg://hipster/service/network/dns/powerdns-recursor): >> KeyError: 'getgrnam(): name not found: powerdns' >> The Boot Environment hipster-2016 failed to be updated. A snapshot was >> taken >> before the failed attempt and has been restored so no changes have been >> made to >> hipster-2016. >> pkg: An unexpected error happened during install: 'getgrnam(): name not >> found: >> powerdns' >...... > > Just in case: isn't getgrnam() a getter of group name? Maybe just adding the account to original (or half-updated) BE would fix it? > Yeah, thanks, indeed, I didn't look too deep into the error cause... Added powerdns in/etc/group, but ran into the same problem with all these ones: sshd,clamav,named,bacula,barman,dnscrypt,ftp,haproxy,jack, mlocate,dhcpserv,puppet,zabbix,postgres Added all of them; and, no, some packages do not install their username from the group entry, so put that in by hand also...and, voila, it finished installing. If we want to use that in production, we would have to hack back the 'openindiana.org' distributor into the hacked package repository and local package directories, of course, but this installation is only for a test. I would clearly not recommed to do it this way in a production install action... -- Dr.Udo Grabowski Inst.f.Meteorology & Climate Research IMK-ASF-SAT http://www.imk-asf.kit.edu/english/sat.php KIT - Karlsruhe Institute of Technology http://www.kit.edu Postfach 3640,76021 Karlsruhe,Germany T:(+49)721 608-26026 F:-926026 From makruger2000 at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 13:56:25 2016 From: makruger2000 at gmail.com (Michael Kruger) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 09:56:25 -0400 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 Message-ID: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> Hello All, I am happy to announce further development of the OpenIndiana Docs static HTML website concept. This latest demonstration site uses the MkDocs content authoring and static website generation framework. MkDocs uses Markdown as the text markup used for content authoring. The website theme remains the same (Bootswatch/Spacelab). Supported are in-line HTML elements, as well as Font Awesome HTML elements. Please go have a look: Website: http://makruger.github.io/website-2.0/ GitHub repository: https://github.com/makruger/website-2.0 Michael From sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us Sun Jun 12 16:27:37 2016 From: sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us (Jerry Kemp) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 11:27:37 -0500 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> References: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <575D8D79.7060909@oryx.us> Wow Michael, That's awesome. Thank you. Jerry On 06/12/16 08:56 AM, Michael Kruger wrote: > Hello All, > > I am happy to announce further development of the OpenIndiana Docs static HTML > website concept. This latest demonstration site uses the MkDocs content > authoring and static website generation framework. MkDocs uses Markdown as the > text markup used for content authoring. > > The website theme remains the same (Bootswatch/Spacelab). Supported are in-line > HTML elements, as well as Font Awesome HTML elements. > > Please go have a look: > > Website: http://makruger.github.io/website-2.0/ > > GitHub repository: https://github.com/makruger/website-2.0 > > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss From makruger2000 at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 19:28:50 2016 From: makruger2000 at gmail.com (Michael Kruger) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:28:50 -0400 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: <575D8D79.7060909@oryx.us> References: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> <575D8D79.7060909@oryx.us> Message-ID: <575DB7F2.2040202@gmail.com> On 06/12/2016 12:27 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: > Wow Michael, > > That's awesome. Thank you. > > Jerry Hi Jerry, it gets even better.... This afternoon we automated everything with Travis-CI. Now upon commit the site automatically runs through a series of validation tests. If everything passes, the site is automatically built and deployed to GitHub pages. If you or anyone else has any suggestions for improvement, we're happy to listen. Simply open an issue on Github: https://github.com/makruger/website-2.0/issues Michael From minikola at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 19:59:55 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 21:59:55 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> References: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <575DBF3B.4030702@gmail.com> On 06/12/16 03:56 PM, Michael Kruger wrote: > Website: http://makruger.github.io/website-2.0/ Still too many empty space between lines, uncondesed and widen without need. More info on less space. All texts on "Notes" seems like your private writings that are good to be moved on some personal blog (and discussed there or as topics discussed on ML. Docs are not code! Articles are not Docs. Separating people to "reviewers" (gods) and "the rest" is not good at the moment, regarding number of people. "Code of conduct not needed (!) , and absolutely not part of any docs movement atm. We are base on INCLUSION of people and not Exclusive... Presenting hierarchy not needed because administrative moves does not help doing the work atm. Wiki is there to put articles on. Some of your writings on "Notes could be conidered for a Wiki material (if not already on Wiki, that is very possible).. Git presented is managed by single person and not form inside OI. No space on site for such a large overwhelming web page like this. Jumping to separate site like this from OI.org site is confusing to people. ** Path to articles is like this: Whatever -> Personal blogs etc - > Wiki -> Redaction -> Site.** No publishing on Openindiana site from your private repo without this review path. This is only known to me "docs" pages that actually does not include docs, but "handbook" that _we already have on Wiki_. And at the end, it does not looks nice, if it too pompously separate to separated site , does not conform with Openindiana.org site look and feel and is therefore unsuitable to put on Openindian.org site, anywhere, any time soon. Very little actual content (articles are not docs), lack Opensolaris docs to PDF and Html that "Docs" should actually solve. So it actually doesn't sovle much problems right now. I think That your writings could be reviewed for Wiki inclusion but after that it is interesting what is the use case of your site an process? So doesn't look nice , not solving any issue and not needing any "Organizing" into "Roles" right now, thank you. From minikola at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 20:02:50 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 22:02:50 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: <575D8D79.7060909@oryx.us> References: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> <575D8D79.7060909@oryx.us> Message-ID: <575DBFEA.8000006@gmail.com> On 06/12/16 06:27 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: > Wow Michael, > > That's awesome. Thank you. It has so many problems and is so ugly and doesn't fit to OI.org site and we have a Wiki for an article review before entering Site. It is interesting maybe but not awesome by any mean and doesn't fit OI needs at the moment (including segregation of contributors at the moment). From makruger2000 at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 20:17:25 2016 From: makruger2000 at gmail.com (Michael Kruger) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 16:17:25 -0400 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: <575DBF3B.4030702@gmail.com> References: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> <575DBF3B.4030702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <575DC355.3060401@gmail.com> On 06/12/2016 03:59 PM, Nikola M wrote: > So doesn't look nice , not solving any issue and not needing any > "Organizing" into "Roles" right now, thank you. Nikolam, All criticisms set aside, you have to admit this new site looks simply fabulous on an iPhone. Try that sometime with the OI wiki. Michael From minikola at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 13:44:40 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 15:44:40 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: <575DC355.3060401@gmail.com> References: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> <575DBF3B.4030702@gmail.com> <575DC355.3060401@gmail.com> Message-ID: <575EB8C8.5080402@gmail.com> On 06/12/16 10:17 PM, Michael Kruger wrote: > On 06/12/2016 03:59 PM, Nikola M wrote: > >> So doesn't look nice , not solving any issue and not needing any >> "Organizing" into "Roles" right now, thank you. > > Nikolam, > > All criticisms set aside, you have to admit this new site looks simply > fabulous on an iPhone. I don't Use iPhone, I use Openindiana. For your personal site and blog it may be, but not for OI site by any means. It still look awfull as web page (juck), not to mention not by any means integrable to OI site.. . > > Try that sometime with the OI wiki. OI Wiki is here to stay. Many articles and content on it and many contributors welcome. Plus it is more democratic then personal GIT. You are welcome to write articles and put them wherever you want , yet not going to push your site to OI at all. There are improvements, you separated your writings etc from articles, that is good, you also made it use less empty space between lines, that is good (neds even less space between), you still think you are one and only who knows everything, not good :) i always welcome people making their blogs and personal sites and writing whatever they want on OI and illumos. It could be goot place to seek from inspiration for Wiki and yes, docs in the future. Your personal site is welcome but that's it. I suggest working on articles not on making world a better place. :) From makruger2000 at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 19:29:19 2016 From: makruger2000 at gmail.com (Michael Kruger) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 15:29:19 -0400 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 (Now with HTTPS & Travis-CI) In-Reply-To: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> References: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <575F098F.6020307@gmail.com> Update on this..... We're fully automated with continuous integration (via Travis-ci) and have enabled HTTPS. And just today added a new script that checks for broken URL's. The updated site URL is: https://makruger.github.io/website-2.0/ Currently we have 3 contributors, but we definitely will need additional help as the momentum continues to build. For anyone wishing to give contributing a test run, here's a direct link to the "Getting Started" doc: https://makruger.github.io/website-2.0/contrib/getting-started/ More to come.... Michael From minikola at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 05:00:36 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 07:00:36 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 (Now with HTTPS & Travis-CI) In-Reply-To: <575F098F.6020307@gmail.com> References: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> <575F098F.6020307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <575F8F74.2000402@gmail.com> On 06/13/16 09:29 PM, Michael Kruger wrote: > Update on this..... > > We're fully automated with continuous integration (via Travis-ci) and > have enabled HTTPS. And just today added a new script that checks for > broken URL's. Please market private blogs elsewhere. And stop calling your article site "Docs" and OI docs it is not. > The updated site URL is: https://makruger.github.io/website-2.0/ > We have Openindiana docs to refresh out of Opensolaris docs, not write everything new(!), it is not sane... We have Wiki on wiki.openindiana.org to contribute, with one-click process... Please don't distract Openindiana project with your private site, privately controlled only by you. I dont' recognize your writing quality as any reason to trust you nor the one to mandate anything. Any contributions to your site will not be accepted to Openindiana unless _articles_ going through OI Wiki. We are Inclusive project, not exclusive as you would like (!) and I don't except any dictatorship you are imposing through your site and private Github. Writings are not articles. Articles are not Docs. Docs are not Code. OI site is not for you to play games with such a ugly thing. > > For anyone wishing to give contributing a test run, here's a direct > link to the "Getting Started" doc: > > https://makruger.github.io/website-2.0/contrib/getting-started/ Please stop advertising your private projects outside Openindiana. You are behaving contrary to interest of Openindiana. Youa are actively defying open community process in Openindiana by redefining it to yourself at the top... and that is NOT accepted. We have tons of articles and people on Openindiana Wiki. And to best abilities it is current.. We already have contribution process. And we need people writing on wiki.openindiana.org and NOT on your private place... You are banging the wrong dooor for the last 6 months and I am sick of it already. From minikola at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 05:04:37 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 07:04:37 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 (Now with HTTPS & Travis-CI) In-Reply-To: <575F8F74.2000402@gmail.com> References: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> <575F098F.6020307@gmail.com> <575F8F74.2000402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <575F9065.8080806@gmail.com> On 06/14/16 07:00 AM, Nikola M wrote: > > Please market private blogs elsewhere. And stop calling your article > site "Docs" and OI docs it is not. Just to make sure I am not misunderstood, I very much like private sites and blogs with OI-related articles. Please DO post about them existing for new ideas and articles. That said, this in-topic is obviously example of bad behaving one, that wants to take over the world.. From aurelien.larcher at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 06:32:09 2016 From: aurelien.larcher at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien_Larcher?=) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:32:09 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 (Now with HTTPS & Travis-CI) In-Reply-To: <575F8F74.2000402@gmail.com> References: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> <575F098F.6020307@gmail.com> <575F8F74.2000402@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 7:00 AM, Nikola M wrote: > On 06/13/16 09:29 PM, Michael Kruger wrote: >> >> Update on this..... >> >> We're fully automated with continuous integration (via Travis-ci) and have >> enabled HTTPS. And just today added a new script that checks for broken >> URL's. > > > Please market private blogs elsewhere. And stop calling your article site > "Docs" and OI docs it is not. > >> The updated site URL is: https://makruger.github.io/website-2.0/ >> > We have Openindiana docs to refresh out of Opensolaris docs, not write > everything new(!), it is not sane... > We have Wiki on wiki.openindiana.org to contribute, with one-click > process... > > Please don't distract Openindiana project with your private site, privately > controlled only by you. > I dont' recognize your writing quality as any reason to trust you nor the > one to mandate anything. > > Any contributions to your site will not be accepted to Openindiana unless > _articles_ going through OI Wiki. > > We are Inclusive project, not exclusive as you would like (!) and I don't > except any dictatorship you are imposing through your site and private > Github. > > Writings are not articles. > Articles are not Docs. > Docs are not Code. > OI site is not for you to play games with such a ugly thing. >> >> >> For anyone wishing to give contributing a test run, here's a direct link >> to the "Getting Started" doc: >> >> https://makruger.github.io/website-2.0/contrib/getting-started/ > > > Please stop advertising your private projects outside Openindiana. > You are behaving contrary to interest of Openindiana. > Youa are actively defying open community process in Openindiana by > redefining it to yourself at the top... and that is NOT accepted. > > We have tons of articles and people on Openindiana Wiki. And to best > abilities it is current.. > We already have contribution process. > And we need people writing on wiki.openindiana.org and NOT on your private > place... > > You are banging the wrong dooor for the last 6 months and I am sick of it > already. Stop using "we" please, your opinion is very personal and does not represent the project in any way. People are welcome to bring new ideas and concepts. You are right about one thing: the repository should certainly live on OpenIndiana's Github space. > > > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss -- --- Praise the Caffeine embeddings From minikola at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 06:49:12 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:49:12 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 (Now with HTTPS & Travis-CI) In-Reply-To: References: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> <575F098F.6020307@gmail.com> <575F8F74.2000402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <575FA8E8.7040001@gmail.com> On 06/14/16 08:32 AM, Aur?lien Larcher wrote: > We have tons of articles and people on Openindiana Wiki. And to best > abilities it is current.. > We already have contribution process. > And we need people writing on wiki.openindiana.org and NOT on your private > place... > > Stop using "we" please, your opinion is very personal and does not > represent the project in any way. > People are welcome to bring new ideas and concepts. > > You are right about one thing: the repository should certainly live on > OpenIndiana's Github space. Using We because it is true. We all have a Openindiana Wiki and we are all (everyone on lis) is free to contribute to it and it is very easy to. No "hierarchy" of that sort is needed right now that article-git process would imply. I don't see Makruger as right person for a position to mandate processes, because ideas of exclusive process is antisocial. From gbulfon at sonicle.com Tue Jun 14 07:01:51 2016 From: gbulfon at sonicle.com (Gabriele Bulfon) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 09:01:51 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] krtld failed to open, again... Message-ID: <16395275.144.1465887711121.JavaMail.sonicle@www> Hi, it's the second time I get this on the same dev system in few months, hope someone else got this and found a solution.. Both times, the message show a garbled character instead of the path for the unix to run. First time boot was on SSD and I thought that was failing, so I reinstalled boot on a SATA disk, leaving SSD there doing nothing for a while. This required me to find and reinstall all dev packages needed to build and mantain our distro. This time again, I just remember shutting down the system last night, rebooting today, finding the boot like the attached jpg. Tried with this : https://jasonbanham.wordpress.com/category/bootadm/ No way. Always the krtld fail error. I think I can reinstall again on SSD or SATA, that is not the problem.. I would like to know what's happening to avoid this again... Maybe just installing often dev packages requiring new boot env often can crash the boot archive??? Any idea? Maybe just some way to fix the boot before reinstalling again may be lighter... :( Thanks for any idea, Gabriele ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sonicle S.r.l. : http://www.sonicle.com Music: http://www.gabrielebulfon.com Quantum Mechanics : http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon illumos-discuss | Archives | Modify Your Subscription -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_1734.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 277987 bytes Desc: not available URL: From minikola at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 07:50:48 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 09:50:48 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] krtld failed to open, again... In-Reply-To: <16395275.144.1465887711121.JavaMail.sonicle@www> References: <16395275.144.1465887711121.JavaMail.sonicle@www> Message-ID: <575FB758.4030607@gmail.com> On 06/14/16 09:01 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: > Hi, > it's the second time I get this on the same dev system in few months, hope someone else got this and found a solution.. > Both times, the message show a garbled character instead of the path for the unix to run. > First time boot was on SSD and I thought that was failing, so I reinstalled boot on a SATA disk, leaving SSD there doing nothing for a while. This required me to find and reinstall all dev packages needed to build and mantain our distro. > This time again, I just remember shutting down the system last night, rebooting today, finding the boot like the attached jpg. > Tried with this : > https://jasonbanham.wordpress.com/category/bootadm/ > No way. > Always the krtld fail error. > I think I can reinstall again on SSD or SATA, that is not the problem.. > I would like to know what's happening to avoid this again... > Maybe just installing often dev packages requiring new boot env often can crash the boot archive??? > Any idea? Maybe just some way to fix the boot before reinstalling again may be lighter... > :( > Thanks for any idea, > Gabriele > One can recover from boot error by booting form live DVD/USB and repairing GRUB. Try installing development packages in a zone if they are from userland. Can error be associated with some illumos update or userland updates to isolate? Do you use SATA disks on SATA controller or SAS expanders with using SATA disks or Expanders at all - all of this is not supported as I know. Do you have ECC RAM? What illumos is there etc. I don't have XstreamOS installed at the moment to try to reproduce. Maybe question is better for oi-dev but oi-discuss will be good enough for now. krtld is part of 'developer/debug/mdb' package on OI. try reinstalling GRUB with new boot archive. I had similar strange problem booting after some illumos update about year and a half ago, but not like this. I couls only solve it by booting form Live DVD (and not even recent one but older, Opensolaris one as I remember) and reinstalling GRUB. After that reinstalling GRUB with newer ISOs worked OK.. From gbulfon at sonicle.com Tue Jun 14 08:35:44 2016 From: gbulfon at sonicle.com (Gabriele Bulfon) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 10:35:44 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] krtld failed to open, again... In-Reply-To: <575FB758.4030607@gmail.com> References: <16395275.144.1465887711121.JavaMail.sonicle@www> <575FB758.4030607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2385248.159.1465893344719.JavaMail.sonicle@www> Thanks Nikola, I think it may be caused by a power down here that turned off the machine not behind an ups. Machine is a NAS like machine, with 4 sata disks and an SSD. Because SSD failed once with a similar problem, I didn't feel safe using it again as boot, so I reinstalled on a free small SATA, keeping dev data on a raidz pool of 3 sata. Now the same with the sata boot... It's not the first time I have machines going down for power failure, but never lost a zpool. Actually, the rpool can be imported, but just can't boot showing those grabled unix path error. I tried booting from DVD, shell, mounting rpool on /a and forcing a rebuild via bootadm update-archive -R /a -v : archive were correctly rebuilt, but still can't boot, looking for a garbled unix path. How can I just reinstall grub keeping the rpool safe? Will it keep my boot environments? Thanks! Gabriele ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sonicle S.r.l. : http://www.sonicle.com Music: http://www.gabrielebulfon.com Quantum Mechanics : http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Da: Nikola M A: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Data: 14 giugno 2016 9.50.48 CEST Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] krtld failed to open, again... On 06/14/16 09:01 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: Hi, it's the second time I get this on the same dev system in few months, hope someone else got this and found a solution.. Both times, the message show a garbled character instead of the path for the unix to run. First time boot was on SSD and I thought that was failing, so I reinstalled boot on a SATA disk, leaving SSD there doing nothing for a while. This required me to find and reinstall all dev packages needed to build and mantain our distro. This time again, I just remember shutting down the system last night, rebooting today, finding the boot like the attached jpg. Tried with this : https://jasonbanham.wordpress.com/category/bootadm/ No way. Always the krtld fail error. I think I can reinstall again on SSD or SATA, that is not the problem.. I would like to know what's happening to avoid this again... Maybe just installing often dev packages requiring new boot env often can crash the boot archive??? Any idea? Maybe just some way to fix the boot before reinstalling again may be lighter... :( Thanks for any idea, Gabriele One can recover from boot error by booting form live DVD/USB and repairing GRUB. Try installing development packages in a zone if they are from userland. Can error be associated with some illumos update or userland updates to isolate? Do you use SATA disks on SATA controller or SAS expanders with using SATA disks or Expanders at all - all of this is not supported as I know. Do you have ECC RAM? What illumos is there etc. I don't have XstreamOS installed at the moment to try to reproduce. Maybe question is better for oi-dev but oi-discuss will be good enough for now. krtld is part of 'developer/debug/mdb' package on OI. try reinstalling GRUB with new boot archive. I had similar strange problem booting after some illumos update about year and a half ago, but not like this. I couls only solve it by booting form Live DVD (and not even recent one but older, Opensolaris one as I remember) and reinstalling GRUB. After that reinstalling GRUB with newer ISOs worked OK.. _______________________________________________ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss From minikola at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 08:51:09 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 10:51:09 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] krtld failed to open, again... In-Reply-To: <2385248.159.1465893344719.JavaMail.sonicle@www> References: <16395275.144.1465887711121.JavaMail.sonicle@www> <575FB758.4030607@gmail.com> <2385248.159.1465893344719.JavaMail.sonicle@www> Message-ID: <575FC57D.10407@gmail.com> On 06/14/16 10:35 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: > Thanks Nikola, I think it may be caused by a power down here that turned off the machine not behind an ups. > Machine is a NAS like machine, with 4 sata disks and an SSD. > Because SSD failed once with a similar problem, I didn't feel safe using it again as boot, so I reinstalled on a free small SATA, keeping dev data on a raidz pool of 3 sata. > Now the same with the sata boot... > It's not the first time I have machines going down for power failure, but never lost a zpool. > Actually, the rpool can be imported, but just can't boot showing those grabled unix path error. > I tried booting from DVD, shell, mounting rpool on /a and forcing a rebuild via bootadm update-archive -R /a -v : archive were correctly rebuilt, but still can't boot, looking for a garbled unix path. > How can I just reinstall grub keeping the rpool safe? Will it keep my boot environments? > Thanks! > Gabriele Firstly backup everything if not already, to external HD, that could be detached physically. See if this helps: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/How+to+migrate+the+root+pool http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Boot+hangs http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Advanced+-+Manual+installation+of+OpenIndiana+from+LiveCD+media /sbin/installgrub /boot/grub/stage1 /boot/grub/stage2 /dev/rdsk/c2t0d0s0 From dima at desktopfay.com Tue Jun 14 14:58:07 2016 From: dima at desktopfay.com (Dmitry Kozhinov) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 19:58:07 +0500 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: <575EB8C8.5080402@gmail.com> References: <575EB8C8.5080402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <64e13c28-2ed8-91ce-566f-26530caa8b31@desktopfay.com> > I don't Use iPhone, I use Openindiana. The website is not made for you, it's made for visitors. Can you please take a look at openindiana.org website stats and tell us what OS/device visitors use most? From dima at desktopfay.com Tue Jun 14 14:58:07 2016 From: dima at desktopfay.com (Dmitry Kozhinov) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 19:58:07 +0500 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: <575EB8C8.5080402@gmail.com> References: <575EB8C8.5080402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <64e13c28-2ed8-91ce-566f-26530caa8b31@desktopfay.com> > I don't Use iPhone, I use Openindiana. The website is not made for you, it's made for visitors. Can you please take a look at openindiana.org website stats and tell us what OS/device visitors use most? From gbulfon at sonicle.com Tue Jun 14 16:59:02 2016 From: gbulfon at sonicle.com (Gabriele Bulfon) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 18:59:02 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] krtld failed to open, again... In-Reply-To: <575FC57D.10407@gmail.com> References: <16395275.144.1465887711121.JavaMail.sonicle@www> <575FB758.4030607@gmail.com> <2385248.159.1465893344719.JavaMail.sonicle@www> <575FC57D.10407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <24796742.246.1465923542233.JavaMail.sonicle@www> Thanks, I will check this. Anyway I'm still not sure the problem can be the grub, because grub loads, shows the boot environments, let me choose the active one, and then here it fails when running any be. Do you still think installgrub can fix it? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sonicle S.r.l. : http://www.sonicle.com Music: http://www.gabrielebulfon.com Quantum Mechanics : http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Da: Nikola M A: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Data: 14 giugno 2016 10.51.09 CEST Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] krtld failed to open, again... On 06/14/16 10:35 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: Thanks Nikola, I think it may be caused by a power down here that turned off the machine not behind an ups. Machine is a NAS like machine, with 4 sata disks and an SSD. Because SSD failed once with a similar problem, I didn't feel safe using it again as boot, so I reinstalled on a free small SATA, keeping dev data on a raidz pool of 3 sata. Now the same with the sata boot... It's not the first time I have machines going down for power failure, but never lost a zpool. Actually, the rpool can be imported, but just can't boot showing those grabled unix path error. I tried booting from DVD, shell, mounting rpool on /a and forcing a rebuild via bootadm update-archive -R /a -v : archive were correctly rebuilt, but still can't boot, looking for a garbled unix path. How can I just reinstall grub keeping the rpool safe? Will it keep my boot environments? Thanks! Gabriele Firstly backup everything if not already, to external HD, that could be detached physically. See if this helps: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/How+to+migrate+the+root+pool http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Boot+hangs http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Advanced+-+Manual+installation+of+OpenIndiana+from+LiveCD+media /sbin/installgrub /boot/grub/stage1 /boot/grub/stage2 /dev/rdsk/c2t0d0s0 _______________________________________________ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss From jimklimov at cos.ru Tue Jun 14 18:30:32 2016 From: jimklimov at cos.ru (Jim Klimov) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 20:30:32 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] krtld failed to open, again... In-Reply-To: <24796742.246.1465923542233.JavaMail.sonicle@www> References: <16395275.144.1465887711121.JavaMail.sonicle@www> <575FB758.4030607@gmail.com> <2385248.159.1465893344719.JavaMail.sonicle@www> <575FC57D.10407@gmail.com> <24796742.246.1465923542233.JavaMail.sonicle@www> Message-ID: <6153A70E-3536-4E0D-B3E4-7B58A7633285@cos.ru> 14 ???? 2016??. 18:59:02 CEST, Gabriele Bulfon ?????: >Thanks, I will check this. >Anyway I'm still not sure the problem can be the grub, because grub >loads, shows the boot environments, let me choose the active one, and >then here it fails when running any be. >Do you still think installgrub can fix it? >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Sonicle S.r.l. >: >http://www.sonicle.com >Music: >http://www.gabrielebulfon.com >Quantum Mechanics : >http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Da: Nikola M >A: Discussion list for OpenIndiana >Data: 14 giugno 2016 10.51.09 CEST >Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] krtld failed to open, again... >On 06/14/16 10:35 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: >Thanks Nikola, I think it may be caused by a power down here that >turned off the machine not behind an ups. >Machine is a NAS like machine, with 4 sata disks and an SSD. >Because SSD failed once with a similar problem, I didn't feel safe >using it again as boot, so I reinstalled on a free small SATA, keeping >dev data on a raidz pool of 3 sata. >Now the same with the sata boot... >It's not the first time I have machines going down for power failure, >but never lost a zpool. >Actually, the rpool can be imported, but just can't boot showing those >grabled unix path error. >I tried booting from DVD, shell, mounting rpool on /a and forcing a >rebuild via bootadm update-archive -R /a -v : archive were correctly >rebuilt, but still can't boot, looking for a garbled unix path. >How can I just reinstall grub keeping the rpool safe? Will it keep my >boot environments? >Thanks! >Gabriele >Firstly backup everything if not already, to external HD, that could be >detached physically. >See if this helps: >http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/How+to+migrate+the+root+pool >http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Boot+hangs >http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Advanced+-+Manual+installation+of+OpenIndiana+from+LiveCD+media >/sbin/installgrub /boot/grub/stage1 /boot/grub/stage2 >/dev/rdsk/c2t0d0s0 >_______________________________________________ >openindiana-discuss mailing list >openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org >http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss >_______________________________________________ >openindiana-discuss mailing list >openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org >http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss Just in case: how many grub menu entries do you have? Maybe you're hitting its RAM constraint? Roughly 25 entries are too many, and it overflows... If this matches, try booting from a livedvd again and edit the rpool/boot/grub/menu.lst (IIRC OTOH). Hope this helps, Jim -- Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android From minikola at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 03:56:21 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 05:56:21 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: <64e13c28-2ed8-91ce-566f-26530caa8b31@desktopfay.com> References: <575EB8C8.5080402@gmail.com> <64e13c28-2ed8-91ce-566f-26530caa8b31@desktopfay.com> Message-ID: <5760D1E5.4050706@gmail.com> On 06/14/16 04:58 PM, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: >> I don't Use iPhone, I use Openindiana. > > The website is not made for you, it's made for visitors. Can you > please take a look at openindiana.org website stats and tell us what > OS/device visitors use most? It is interesting information for OI website, regarding visitors etc, yes. Website is made for visitors, yes, and it is made for me as OI user. But It doesn't mean site needs to be ugly and unusable on OI desktop because of influx of mobile users. Main concern is how it looks like for OI users, second concern is how it looks for others. And OI does not run on mobile phones. People seeking information most certainly will use OI desktop (or other desktops), because of general illumos distro orientation toward server use (that have a DE as an extension). There are now also other smaller illumos distros that also ship desktop (tribblix/SVR4, XStreamos/IPS), with OI being well known and most used. And they also don't run on mobile phones. There are benefits of OI site to be rendered nice on Mobile platforms, yes, but I won't hold my breath of it's big usability pressure, regarding target audience for site and distribution as a whole. Also it is another topic actually , where personal site like this can be viewed as an inspiration if there are (better) articles. Quality of writing and is factual state are that matters. "Docs" are made by closely following actual changes in software and documenting them. It is a dull thing, actually.. (plus producing Pdfs and Html representation at the end). They are the final stage of a long process of Blogs, articles, writings, documenting changes, boiling manuals over tim to actual documentation form. it is actually something people can reference and that includes best practices and errors or mistakes in it can actually cost people lives and jobs.. Writing on Wiki allows to easily contribute articles if one have actual need to articulate something hes/she finds interesting for others. From gbulfon at sonicle.com Wed Jun 15 06:25:26 2016 From: gbulfon at sonicle.com (Gabriele Bulfon) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:25:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] krtld failed to open, again... In-Reply-To: <6153A70E-3536-4E0D-B3E4-7B58A7633285@cos.ru> References: <16395275.144.1465887711121.JavaMail.sonicle@www> <575FB758.4030607@gmail.com> <2385248.159.1465893344719.JavaMail.sonicle@www> <575FC57D.10407@gmail.com> <24796742.246.1465923542233.JavaMail.sonicle@www> <6153A70E-3536-4E0D-B3E4-7B58A7633285@cos.ru> Message-ID: <12966383.255.1465971926251.JavaMail.sonicle@www> Wow!!!! Jim you saved me! :)) I found around 20 entries in menu.lst, removed 10 and now it boots!!!! :)))) Also, you saved my original boot SSD that I thought to be corrupted and not safe to use. I'm sure I can do the same on it and it will boot again too! Thanks so much Jim! Question: how can we be warned by the system about a possible too big menu.lst before "the happening"? Gabriele ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sonicle S.r.l. : http://www.sonicle.com Music: http://www.gabrielebulfon.com Quantum Mechanics : http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Da: Jim Klimov A: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Gabriele Bulfon Data: 14 giugno 2016 20.30.32 CEST Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] krtld failed to open, again... 14 ???? 2016 ?. 18:59:02 CEST, Gabriele Bulfon ?????: Thanks, I will check this. Anyway I'm still not sure the problem can be the grub, because grub loads, shows the boot environments, let me choose the active one, and then here it fails when running any be. Do you still think installgrub can fix it? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sonicle S.r.l. : http://www.sonicle.com Music: http://www.gabrielebulfon.com Quantum Mechanics : http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Da: Nikola M A: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Data: 14 giugno 2016 10.51.09 CEST Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] krtld failed to open, again... On 06/14/16 10:35 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: Thanks Nikola, I think it may be caused by a power down here that turned off the machine not behind an ups. Machine is a NAS like machine, with 4 sata disks and an SSD. Because SSD failed once with a similar problem, I didn't feel safe using it again as boot, so I reinstalled on a free small SATA, keeping dev data on a raidz pool of 3 sata. Now the same with the sata boot... It's not the first time I have machines going down for power failure, but never lost a zpool. Actually, the rpool can be imported, but just can't boot showing those grabled unix path error. I tried booting from DVD, shell, mounting rpool on /a and forcing a rebuild via bootadm update-archive -R /a -v : archive were correctly rebuilt, but still can't boot, looking for a garbled unix path. How can I just reinstall grub keeping the rpool safe? Will it keep my boot environments? Thanks! Gabriele Firstly backup everything if not already, to external HD, that could be detached physically. See if this helps: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/How+to+migrate+the+root+pool http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Boot+hangs http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Advanced+-+Manual+installation+of+OpenIndiana+from+LiveCD+media /sbin/installgrub /boot/grub/stage1 /boot/grub/stage2 /dev/rdsk/c2t0d0s0 _______________________________________________ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss _______________________________________________ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss Just in case: how many grub menu entries do you have? Maybe you're hitting its RAM constraint? Roughly 25 entries are too many, and it overflows... If this matches, try booting from a livedvd again and edit the rpool/boot/grub/menu.lst (IIRC OTOH). Hope this helps, Jim -- Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android From alp at rsu.ru Wed Jun 15 08:37:16 2016 From: alp at rsu.ru (Alexander Pyhalov) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:37:16 +0300 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> References: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <576113BC.4000805@rsu.ru> On 06/12/16 04:56 PM, Michael Kruger wrote: > Hello All, > > I am happy to announce further development of the OpenIndiana Docs > static HTML website concept. This latest demonstration site uses the > MkDocs content authoring and static website generation framework. MkDocs > uses Markdown as the text markup used for content authoring. > > The website theme remains the same (Bootswatch/Spacelab). Supported are > in-line HTML elements, as well as Font Awesome HTML elements. > > Please go have a look: > > Website: http://makruger.github.io/website-2.0/ > > GitHub repository: https://github.com/makruger/website-2.0 > Hi, Michael. Let's consider things which should be done to make documentation site official: - provide quick links to the latest OpenSolaris 2009.06 documentation collection, hosted on github or our servers; - move all actual and relevant content of current handbook to new version; - review new handbook content to avoid actual errors; - move repository to OI organization; - make look and feel of http://www.openindiana.org/ and documentation site similar; - provide links to illumos documentation, open zfs documentation where necessary. I welcome other ideas and suggestions, except "let's don't touch OI docs", as they just don't exist now... -- Best regards, Alexander Pyhalov, system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department From udo.grabowski at kit.edu Wed Jun 15 09:31:10 2016 From: udo.grabowski at kit.edu (Udo Grabowski (IMK)) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:31:10 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: <5760D1E5.4050706@gmail.com> References: <575EB8C8.5080402@gmail.com> <64e13c28-2ed8-91ce-566f-26530caa8b31@desktopfay.com> <5760D1E5.4050706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5761205E.3040006@kit.edu> On 15/06/2016 05:56, Nikola M wrote: > On 06/14/16 04:58 PM, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: >>> I don't Use iPhone, I use Openindiana. > .... > It is interesting information for OI website, regarding visitors etc, yes. > Website is made for visitors, yes, and it is made for me as OI user. > But It doesn't mean site needs to be ugly and unusable on OI desktop because of > influx of mobile users. Main concern is how it looks like for OI users, second > concern is how it looks for others. Since the new version of the docs is coded now, it should be possible to add some javascript that detects users device parameters and render the sites accordingly. There are a lot of examples and ready to use code how to do that in javascript. I think that should also be the goal of the new version to facilitate dynamical rendering serving best the presently connected device. I really hate those projects where that is fixed based on the "majority" with a "standard" viewing device (like it happened in Gnome3, Unity, and the like). The world has moved on to modern dynamic technics, and the new docs project should use those goodies to render dynamically from a lightweight coded docs repository which Michael is developing now. -- Dr.Udo Grabowski Inst.f.Meteorology & Climate Research IMK-ASF-SAT http://www.imk-asf.kit.edu/english/sat.php KIT - Karlsruhe Institute of Technology http://www.kit.edu Postfach 3640,76021 Karlsruhe,Germany T:(+49)721 608-26026 F:-926026 From jimklimov at cos.ru Wed Jun 15 09:32:08 2016 From: jimklimov at cos.ru (Jim Klimov) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:32:08 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] krtld failed to open, again... In-Reply-To: <12966383.255.1465971926251.JavaMail.sonicle@www> References: <16395275.144.1465887711121.JavaMail.sonicle@www> <575FB758.4030607@gmail.com> <2385248.159.1465893344719.JavaMail.sonicle@www> <575FC57D.10407@gmail.com> <24796742.246.1465923542233.JavaMail.sonicle@www> <6153A70E-3536-4E0D-B3E4-7B58A7633285@cos.ru> <12966383.255.1465971926251.JavaMail.sonicle@www> Message-ID: <2B454043-6199-4F5C-897B-73F892FFD1AB@cos.ru> 15 ???? 2016??. 8:25:26 CEST, Gabriele Bulfon ?????: >Wow!!!! Jim you saved me! :)) I found around 20 entries in menu.lst, >removed 10 and now it boots!!!! :)))) >Also, you saved my original boot SSD that I thought to be corrupted and >not safe to use. >I'm sure I can do the same on it and it will boot again too! >Thanks so much Jim! >Question: how can we be warned by the system about a possible too big >menu.lst before "the happening"? >Gabriele >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Sonicle S.r.l. >: >http://www.sonicle.com >Music: >http://www.gabrielebulfon.com >Quantum Mechanics : >http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Da: Jim Klimov >A: Discussion list for OpenIndiana >Gabriele Bulfon >Data: 14 giugno 2016 20.30.32 CEST >Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] krtld failed to open, again... >14 ???? 2016 ?. 18:59:02 CEST, Gabriele Bulfon >?????: >Thanks, I will check this. >Anyway I'm still not sure the problem can be the grub, because grub >loads, shows the boot environments, let me choose the active one, and >then here it fails when running any be. >Do you still think installgrub can fix it? >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Sonicle S.r.l. >: >http://www.sonicle.com >Music: >http://www.gabrielebulfon.com >Quantum Mechanics : >http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Da: Nikola M >A: Discussion list for OpenIndiana >Data: 14 giugno 2016 10.51.09 CEST >Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] krtld failed to open, again... >On 06/14/16 10:35 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: >Thanks Nikola, I think it may be caused by a power down here that >turned off the machine not behind an ups. >Machine is a NAS like machine, with 4 sata disks and an SSD. >Because SSD failed once with a similar problem, I didn't feel safe >using it again as boot, so I reinstalled on a free small SATA, keeping >dev data on a raidz pool of 3 sata. >Now the same with the sata boot... >It's not the first time I have machines going down for power failure, >but never lost a zpool. >Actually, the rpool can be imported, but just can't boot showing those >grabled unix path error. >I tried booting from DVD, shell, mounting rpool on /a and forcing a >rebuild via bootadm update-archive -R /a -v : archive were correctly >rebuilt, but still can't boot, looking for a garbled unix path. >How can I just reinstall grub keeping the rpool safe? Will it keep my >boot environments? >Thanks! >Gabriele >Firstly backup everything if not already, to external HD, that could be >detached physically. >See if this helps: >http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/How+to+migrate+the+root+pool >http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Boot+hangs >http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Advanced+-+Manual+installation+of+OpenIndiana+from+LiveCD+media >/sbin/installgrub /boot/grub/stage1 /boot/grub/stage2 >/dev/rdsk/c2t0d0s0 >_______________________________________________ >openindiana-discuss mailing list >openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org >http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss >_______________________________________________ >openindiana-discuss mailing list >openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org >http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss >Just in case: how many grub menu entries do you have? Maybe you're >hitting its RAM constraint? Roughly 25 entries are too many, and it >overflows... >If this matches, try booting from a livedvd again and edit the >rpool/boot/grub/menu.lst (IIRC OTOH). >Hope this helps, >Jim >-- >Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android >_______________________________________________ >openindiana-discuss mailing list >openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org >http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss I have the warning in my zfs-split-root scripts that I update my oi and omnios systems with ;) Feel free to include a copy into your distro and/or push for porting the logic into common illumos ;p Probably a warning belongs in beadm or bootadm (the latter wraps menu management iirc), and it is not a firm limit of X etntries - depends on grub code and menu entry sizings, as well as on being an issue with grub-0.97 based loader (not sparc, not grub2 etc.). Jim -- Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android From aurelien.larcher at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 10:48:10 2016 From: aurelien.larcher at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien_Larcher?=) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:48:10 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: <5761205E.3040006@kit.edu> References: <575EB8C8.5080402@gmail.com> <64e13c28-2ed8-91ce-566f-26530caa8b31@desktopfay.com> <5760D1E5.4050706@gmail.com> <5761205E.3040006@kit.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: > On 15/06/2016 05:56, Nikola M wrote: > >> On 06/14/16 04:58 PM, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: >> >>> I don't Use iPhone, I use Openindiana. >>>> >>> .... >> It is interesting information for OI website, regarding visitors etc, yes. >> Website is made for visitors, yes, and it is made for me as OI user. >> But It doesn't mean site needs to be ugly and unusable on OI desktop >> because of >> influx of mobile users. Main concern is how it looks like for OI users, >> second >> concern is how it looks for others. >> > > Since the new version of the docs is coded now, it should be > possible to add some javascript that detects users device > parameters and render the sites accordingly. There are > a lot of examples and ready to use code how to do that in javascript. > I think that should also be the goal of the new version to facilitate > dynamical rendering serving best the presently connected device. > Yes, nowadays most websites use so-called "responsive" themes. The Wordpress theme is responsive since the refresh and so does Michael's demo. You can just resize your browser window to check that the menu adapts to the width or even use the Firefox tool to switch between rendering resolution. > > I really hate those projects where that is fixed based on the > "majority" with a "standard" viewing device (like it happened > in Gnome3, Unity, and the like). The world has moved on to > modern dynamic technics, and the new docs project should use > those goodies to render dynamically from a lightweight coded > docs repository which Michael is developing now. > -- > Dr.Udo Grabowski Inst.f.Meteorology & Climate Research IMK-ASF-SAT > http://www.imk-asf.kit.edu/english/sat.php > KIT - Karlsruhe Institute of Technology http://www.kit.edu > Postfach 3640,76021 Karlsruhe,Germany T:(+49)721 608-26026 F:-926026 > > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- --- Praise the Caffeine embeddings From aurelien.larcher at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 17:36:12 2016 From: aurelien.larcher at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Aur=E9lien?= Larcher) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 17:36:12 +0000 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: <5760D1E5.4050706@gmail.com> References: <575EB8C8.5080402@gmail.com> <64e13c28-2ed8-91ce-566f-26530caa8b31@desktopfay.com> <5760D1E5.4050706@gmail.com> Message-ID: ? mer. juin 15 05:56:21 2016 GMT+0200, Nikola M a ?crit : > On 06/14/16 04:58 PM, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: > >> I don't Use iPhone, I use Openindiana. > > > > The website is not made for you, it's made for visitors. Can you > > please take a look at openindiana.org website stats and tell us what > > OS/device visitors use most? > > It is interesting information for OI website, regarding visitors etc, About 8% of visits are from mobile devices. For instance 7% come from 'SunOS'. > yes. Website is made for visitors, yes, and it is made for me as OI user. > But It doesn't mean site needs to be ugly and unusable on OI desktop > because of influx of mobile users. Main concern is how it looks like for > OI users, second concern is how it looks for others. And OI does not run > on mobile phones. > People seeking information most certainly will use OI desktop (or other > desktops), because of general illumos distro orientation toward server > use (that have a DE as an extension). > There are now also other smaller illumos distros that also ship desktop > (tribblix/SVR4, XStreamos/IPS), with OI being well known and most used. > And they also don't run on mobile phones. > There are benefits of OI site to be rendered nice on Mobile platforms, > yes, but I won't hold my breath of it's big usability pressure, > regarding target audience for site and distribution as a whole. > > Also it is another topic actually , where personal site like this can be > viewed as an inspiration if there are (better) articles. > Quality of writing and is factual state are that matters. > "Docs" are made by closely following actual changes in software and > documenting them. It is a dull thing, actually.. (plus producing Pdfs > and Html representation at the end). > They are the final stage of a long process of Blogs, articles, writings, > documenting changes, boiling manuals over tim to actual documentation > form. it is actually something people can reference and that includes > best practices and errors or mistakes in it can actually cost people > lives and jobs.. > Writing on Wiki allows to easily contribute articles if one have actual > need to articulate something hes/she finds interesting for others. > > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- Thanks for sailing Jolla :) From dima at desktopfay.com Wed Jun 15 22:04:25 2016 From: dima at desktopfay.com (Dmitry Kozhinov) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 03:04:25 +0500 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > About 8% of visits are from mobile devices. > For instance 7% come from 'SunOS'. Thank you for the information. From makruger2000 at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 00:41:49 2016 From: makruger2000 at gmail.com (Michael Kruger) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:41:49 -0400 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: <576113BC.4000805@rsu.ru> References: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> <576113BC.4000805@rsu.ru> Message-ID: <5761F5CD.1010305@gmail.com> On 06/15/2016 04:37 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: > Hi, Michael. > > Let's consider things which should be done to make documentation site > official: > - provide quick links to the latest OpenSolaris 2009.06 documentation > collection, hosted on github or our servers; > - move all actual and relevant content of current handbook to new version; > - review new handbook content to avoid actual errors; > - move repository to OI organization; > - make look and feel of http://www.openindiana.org/ and documentation > site similar; > - provide links to illumos documentation, open zfs documentation where > necessary. > > I welcome other ideas and suggestions, except "let's don't touch OI > docs", as they just don't exist now... Hi Alexander, I copied what you wrote above and created a github issue: https://github.com/makruger/website-2.0/issues/49 Within this issue I referenced several additional issues, created to address these points individually. If you or anyone else has anything else to add, feel free to add a comment to the issue, or reply back here. Thank you for your suggestions, Michael From makruger2000 at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 01:05:57 2016 From: makruger2000 at gmail.com (Michael Kruger) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 21:05:57 -0400 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: <5761205E.3040006@kit.edu> References: <575EB8C8.5080402@gmail.com> <64e13c28-2ed8-91ce-566f-26530caa8b31@desktopfay.com> <5760D1E5.4050706@gmail.com> <5761205E.3040006@kit.edu> Message-ID: <5761FB75.1020304@gmail.com> On 06/15/2016 05:31 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: > > Since the new version of the docs is coded now, it should be > possible to add some javascript that detects users device > parameters and render the sites accordingly. There are > a lot of examples and ready to use code how to do that in javascript. > I think that should also be the goal of the new version to facilitate > dynamical rendering serving best the presently connected device. > > I really hate those projects where that is fixed based on the > "majority" with a "standard" viewing device (like it happened > in Gnome3, Unity, and the like). The world has moved on to > modern dynamic technics, and the new docs project should use > those goodies to render dynamically from a lightweight coded > docs repository which Michael is developing now. Hello Udo, The new site uses the Bootswatch 'Spacelab' theme which is derived from Bootstrap 3. Bootstrap is a mobile first framework. From the ground up it was designed to be responsive and dynamically alter it's appearance to best suite the device used to view the page. It's doing exactly what you describe, which is exactly what we need. http://getbootstrap.com/ https://bootswatch.com/spacelab/ Thank you for your comments, Michael From adam.stevko at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 10:26:47 2016 From: adam.stevko at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Adam_=C5=A0tevko?=) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 12:26:47 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Looking for testers: OpenIndiana Hipster vagrant box Message-ID: Hello, I prepared OpenIndiana vagrant box from the latest hipster 2016.04 snapshot. This is targeted mostly at users and developers, who do not run OI as their main platform, but use VirtualBox for developing software or doing illumos builds on OpenIndiana. This box is created from text installer. GUI variant can come at the later phase and I am willing to accept contributions for that. Also, this box comes only with virtualbox as I don?t have access to VMWare Fusion or Vagrant vmware provider. If somebody has access to it and is willing to contribute, I?d gladly appreciate it. How to get started: 1) Download and install Vagrant from https://www.vagrantup.com 2) Download and Install VirtualBox 3) Run following commands: vagrant init openindiana/hipster; vagrant up --provider virtualbox This will download the hipster box, create Vagrantfile in the current directory and bring up the hipster vagrant box. 4) Do you development/test it. 5) After finished, run this command to destroy the instnace: vagrant destroy Please, test this box and let me know any issues. Once, bugs are removed, I will recreate the box and push the final build to Hashicorp?s Atlas. I am aware of only these 2 minor bugs, which annoy me: - grub timeout is set to 30 seconds, which will be lowered to 5 (no need to have it 30 seconds in this case) - box size. The box is compressed and has around 1GB in size. This is rather more complicated, but I?d like to try to minimize the box size a little bit. In the future, I?d like to start rolling out OI images for more platforms. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From minikola at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 15:39:47 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 17:39:47 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: <5761F5CD.1010305@gmail.com> References: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> <576113BC.4000805@rsu.ru> <5761F5CD.1010305@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5762C843.9030204@gmail.com> On 06/16/16 02:41 AM, Michael Kruger wrote: > Hi Alexander, > I copied what you wrote above and created a github issue: Process of contribution and review can't go through your private repo and you received previous issues on this Mailig List as the only place for them to receive for now. > Within this issue I referenced several additional issues, created to > address these points individually. Whatever you put on your own site, it's your thing. Everything related to Oi is on OI's site and "process" you prescribed putting you on top for review is not acceptable. One can't review hes' own writing by himself and you clearly misuse word "Docs", because what you write are your articles and I don't know how many times I need to repeat this? From minikola at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 15:46:33 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 17:46:33 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: <5761205E.3040006@kit.edu> References: <575EB8C8.5080402@gmail.com> <64e13c28-2ed8-91ce-566f-26530caa8b31@desktopfay.com> <5760D1E5.4050706@gmail.com> <5761205E.3040006@kit.edu> Message-ID: <5762C9D9.5080903@gmail.com> On 06/15/16 11:31 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: > On 15/06/2016 05:56, Nikola M wrote: >> On 06/14/16 04:58 PM, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: >>>> I don't Use iPhone, I use Openindiana. >> .... >> It is interesting information for OI website, regarding visitors etc, >> yes. >> Website is made for visitors, yes, and it is made for me as OI user. >> But It doesn't mean site needs to be ugly and unusable on OI desktop >> because of >> influx of mobile users. Main concern is how it looks like for OI >> users, second >> concern is how it looks for others. > > Since the new version of the docs is coded now, it should be These are not OI docs. This is private makruger site that is with he's 2 unrenewed articles. This can't end up on OI site for having clear organizational issues of self-proclaiming. > possible to add some javascript that detects users device > parameters and render the sites accordingly. There are > a lot of examples and ready to use code how to do that in javascript. > I think that should also be the goal of the new version to facilitate > dynamical rendering serving best the presently connected device. > > I really hate those projects where that is fixed based on the > "majority" with a "standard" viewing device (like it happened I currently have zero care about how it is viewed from iPhone. illumos targets x86 and Oi has i's desktop and if OI web site will be more visible to other platforms, it is unrelated to Makruger's private site. > in Gnome3, Unity, and the like). The world has moved on to > modern dynamic technics, and the new docs project should use > those goodies to render dynamically from a lightweight coded > docs repository which Michael is developing now. Those are not docs. Docs are made over long time from articles and best practices. From minikola at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 15:48:37 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 17:48:37 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: References: <575EB8C8.5080402@gmail.com> <64e13c28-2ed8-91ce-566f-26530caa8b31@desktopfay.com> <5760D1E5.4050706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5762CA55.4070809@gmail.com> On 06/15/16 07:36 PM, Aur?lien Larcher wrote: > > ? mer. juin 15 05:56:21 2016 GMT+0200, Nikola M a ?crit : > >> It is interesting information for OI website, regarding visitors etc, > About 8% of visits are from mobile devices. > For instance 7% come from 'SunOS'. > Thanks for the info. From aurelien.larcher at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 15:48:45 2016 From: aurelien.larcher at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien_Larcher?=) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 17:48:45 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: <5762C843.9030204@gmail.com> References: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> <576113BC.4000805@rsu.ru> <5761F5CD.1010305@gmail.com> <5762C843.9030204@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Nikola M wrote: > On 06/16/16 02:41 AM, Michael Kruger wrote: > >> Hi Alexander, >> I copied what you wrote above and created a github issue: >> > > Process of contribution and review can't go through your private repo and > you received previous issues on this Mailig List as the only place for > them to receive for now. > > Within this issue I referenced several additional issues, created to >> address these points individually. >> > > Whatever you put on your own site, it's your thing. > Everything related to Oi is on OI's site > and "process" you prescribed putting you on top for review is not > acceptable. > > One can't review hes' own writing by himself and you clearly misuse word > "Docs", because what you write are your articles and I don't know how many > times I need to repeat this? I think you should write an extensive documentation about contribution process so that everyone can benefit from your invaluable experience. It is a pity such amount of knowledge is diluted and scattered across numerous email threads. > > > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- --- Praise the Caffeine embeddings From minikola at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 15:50:37 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 17:50:37 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5762CACD.10505@gmail.com> On 06/16/16 12:04 AM, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: >> About 8% of visits are from mobile devices. >> For instance 7% come from 'SunOS'. > > Thank you for the information. Please hit "reply" button on your mail client, to stay in-line with answers, otherwise it creates a new topic :) From minikola at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 15:53:02 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 17:53:02 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Docs - Demo 2.0 In-Reply-To: References: <575D6A09.9030607@gmail.com> <576113BC.4000805@rsu.ru> <5761F5CD.1010305@gmail.com> <5762C843.9030204@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5762CB5E.2080900@gmail.com> On 06/16/16 05:48 PM, Aur?lien Larcher wrote: > I think you should write an extensive documentation about contribution > process so that everyone can benefit from your invaluable experience. > It is a pity such amount of knowledge is diluted and scattered across > numerous email threads. Yes, let's be very extensive at the moment: Use the Oi Wiki. :) Fullstop. From jcarr at poethecat.com Fri Jun 17 02:45:10 2016 From: jcarr at poethecat.com (Ray Crane) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 05:45:10 +0300 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] real facts Message-ID: <00009eea37b6$aa0c64cf$e77dad4b$@poethecat.com> Hi, I've read some interesting facts that may interest you too, these are only real facts, I was soooo surprised, you can read'em here Warm regards, Ray Crane From jcarr at poethecat.com Sat Jun 18 16:28:17 2016 From: jcarr at poethecat.com (John Carr) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 12:28:17 -0400 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] real facts In-Reply-To: <00009eea37b6$aa0c64cf$e77dad4b$@poethecat.com> References: <00009eea37b6$aa0c64cf$e77dad4b$@poethecat.com> Message-ID: <576576A1.1060100@poethecat.com> Hey, all - I apologize. Something got ahold of either my Sent Items or my Inbox a few months back and has been spamming out as my address every days through various mail servers. On 06/16/2016 10:45 PM, Ray Crane wrote: > Hi, > > I've read some interesting facts that may interest you too, these are only real facts, I was soooo surprised, you can read'em here > > Warm regards, Ray Crane > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss From gary at genashor.com Sat Jun 18 20:04:19 2016 From: gary at genashor.com (Gary Gendel) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 16:04:19 -0400 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] real facts In-Reply-To: <576576A1.1060100@poethecat.com> References: <00009eea37b6$aa0c64cf$e77dad4b$@poethecat.com> <576576A1.1060100@poethecat.com> Message-ID: <10fbf622-e4fe-d44c-7fe5-6852b3491169@genashor.com> John, Happens to all of us at some point. Even my wife who is paranoid about signing up for anything. This was too obvious a spam that I just trashed it as soon as I saw it. Gary On 6/18/2016 12:28 PM, John Carr wrote: > Hey, all - I apologize. Something got ahold of either my Sent Items or > my Inbox a few months back and has been spamming out as my address > every days through various mail servers. > > On 06/16/2016 10:45 PM, Ray Crane wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've read some interesting facts that may interest you too, these are >> only real facts, I was soooo surprised, you can read'em here >> >> >> Warm regards, Ray Crane >> >> _______________________________________________ >> openindiana-discuss mailing list >> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org >> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss From jay at m5.chicago.il.us Sun Jun 19 14:24:21 2016 From: jay at m5.chicago.il.us (Jay F. Shachter) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 08:24:21 -0600 (CDT) Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Does It Happen To All Of Us At Some Point? In-Reply-To: from "openindiana-discuss-request@openindiana.org" at Jun 19, 2016 12:00:00 pm Message-ID: <1466342661.EBbEe0.7352@m5.shachter> > > Happens to all of us at some point. Even my wife who is paranoid about > signing up for anything. This was too obvious a spam that I just > trashed it as soon as I saw it. > Does it [i.e., junk mail claiming to be from me going to people to whom I have sent mail in the past] truly happen to all of us at some point? Or does it only happen to those of us who use Microsoft Windows at some point? To the best of my knowledge, it has never happened to me. This is not a rhetorical question, I truly want to know whether there is anyone who, like myself, does not use Microsoft Windows, to whom it has nevertheless happened. Perhaps peripheral to the purpose of this mailing list, perhaps not, if it can demonstrate that if you use nothing but OpenIndiana your friends are safe from junk mail. Thank you in advance for any and all replies. Jay F. Shachter 6424 N Whipple St Chicago IL 60645-4111 (1-773)7613784 landline (1-410)9964737 GoogleVoice jay at m5.chicago.il.us http://m5.chicago.il.us "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur" From alan.coopersmith at oracle.com Sun Jun 19 14:15:44 2016 From: alan.coopersmith at oracle.com (Alan Coopersmith) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 07:15:44 -0700 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Does It Happen To All Of Us At Some Point? In-Reply-To: <1466342661.EBbEe0.7352@m5.shachter> References: <1466342661.EBbEe0.7352@m5.shachter> Message-ID: <5766A910.8000208@oracle.com> On 06/19/16 07:24 AM, Jay F. Shachter wrote: > >> >> Happens to all of us at some point. Even my wife who is paranoid about >> signing up for anything. This was too obvious a spam that I just >> trashed it as soon as I saw it. >> > > Does it [i.e., junk mail claiming to be from me going to people to > whom I have sent mail in the past] truly happen to all of us at some > point? Or does it only happen to those of us who use Microsoft > Windows at some point? It happens to all of us who participate in public mailing lists, bug trackers, or other things that expose our addresses to web crawlers or in the mail folders of people who get infected. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith at oracle.com Oracle Solaris Engineering - http://blogs.oracle.com/alanc From gary at genashor.com Sun Jun 19 14:23:06 2016 From: gary at genashor.com (Gary Gendel) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 10:23:06 -0400 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Does It Happen To All Of Us At Some Point? In-Reply-To: <1466342661.EBbEe0.7352@m5.shachter> References: <1466342661.EBbEe0.7352@m5.shachter> Message-ID: <28a4b252-0e90-7ea0-8f85-ed92bd0a5070@genashor.com> Jay I don't believe that MS Windows is the issue. We've been Windows free for 20+ years. The problem is that you don't have to be directly hacked. A mailing list or website you are a member of gets hacked (or has loose scruples). It can even happen if one of your friends gets their contact list stolen. For awhile I was using temporary email addresses for everything to track which ones come back to haunt me. This way I can tell who (or what) originated the leak. My analysis says that you have to forego having an email address to escape this problem. I doubt that if everyone was on an illumos distribution that this situation would disappear. My server's spam filters catch virtually all incoming junk but that does nothing for others sending emails spoofed with my address. It hasn't happened in several years, but I used to see this situation. I saw bounce messages for mail I never sent. Gary On 6/19/2016 10:24 AM, Jay F. Shachter wrote: >> Happens to all of us at some point. Even my wife who is paranoid about >> signing up for anything. This was too obvious a spam that I just >> trashed it as soon as I saw it. >> > Does it [i.e., junk mail claiming to be from me going to people to > whom I have sent mail in the past] truly happen to all of us at some > point? Or does it only happen to those of us who use Microsoft > Windows at some point? To the best of my knowledge, it has never > happened to me. This is not a rhetorical question, I truly want to > know whether there is anyone who, like myself, does not use Microsoft > Windows, to whom it has nevertheless happened. Perhaps peripheral to > the purpose of this mailing list, perhaps not, if it can demonstrate > that if you use nothing but OpenIndiana your friends are safe from > junk mail. Thank you in advance for any and all replies. > > > Jay F. Shachter > 6424 N Whipple St > Chicago IL 60645-4111 > (1-773)7613784 landline > (1-410)9964737 GoogleVoice > jay at m5.chicago.il.us > http://m5.chicago.il.us > > "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur" > > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss From minikola at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 23:02:45 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 01:02:45 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Does It Happen To All Of Us At Some Point? In-Reply-To: <1466342661.EBbEe0.7352@m5.shachter> References: <1466342661.EBbEe0.7352@m5.shachter> Message-ID: <57672495.4090803@gmail.com> On 06/19/16 04:24 PM, Jay F. Shachter wrote: > >> Happens to all of us at some point. Even my wife who is paranoid about >> signing up for anything. This was too obvious a spam that I just >> trashed it as soon as I saw it. > Does it [i.e., junk mail claiming to be from me going to people to > whom I have sent mail in the past] truly happen to all of us at some > point? Or does it only happen to those of us who use Microsoft > Windows at some point? To the best of my knowledge, it has never Using Windows today really is scary, since it is an spyware turned against it's users, forcefully mirroring by default habits, searches, documents, pictures, applications lists etc. But don't regard use of OI as a shield that can save you from yourself, getting drunk or sending mails while you sleep or having someone stole your password, or use some kind of un/automated social engineering. No platform by itself can save you form stupidity surrounding us all, but can do best to be open, transparent and most important - to allow to you to make it better suit for you. I delete cookies, empty browser cache sometimes, don't let Thunderbird open content in receiving mails, use public mail address for public things and still whatever you do if one targets you specifically, it can do a lot of strange things. Use the ability of internet and internet provider self-regulation. There are usually addresses like abuse at your provider or by looking at IP at sending mail address and ripe.net , finding the originator's provider abuse service and forward full source of messages (Forward as attachment) Explaining in subject you are sending complaint for Abuse Mail, and it's type (Spam, Scam, Phishing etc). And no, this mailing list (nor many others as I see being a member of) are the direct cause of an mild internet manifestations you experience. From gary_mills at fastmail.fm Wed Jun 22 12:57:18 2016 From: gary_mills at fastmail.fm (Gary Mills) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 07:57:18 -0500 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Updates stopped at the Openindiana wiki In-Reply-To: References: <20160301160322.GA7158@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <20160622125718.GA10896@mail.messagingengine.com> On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 05:22:41PM +0100, Aur?lien Larcher wrote: > > I've been watching the Openindiana wiki for changes at: > > > > http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Recent+Wiki+Changes > > > > but nothing has changed for a month now. Has this wiki been > > abandoned, or has something else gone wrong? > > An issue regarding failure to update the dashboard was reported some time > ago: the wiki is active otherwise. I notice that recent changes are updating again. Whatever the problem was, it's been fixed. I can't tell when this happened, but I'd guess it was about a month ago. -- -Gary Mills- -refurb- -Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada- From stream at willows7.myzen.co.uk Thu Jun 23 16:24:24 2016 From: stream at willows7.myzen.co.uk (russell) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 17:24:24 +0100 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox 5.0.22 does not install under OI Message-ID: <576C0D38.7070006@willows7.myzen.co.uk> Hi, I tried to upgrade to VirtualBox 5.0.22 after first removing VirtualBox 5.0.20. Unfortunately after starting the install with pkgadd -d ./VirtualBox-5.0.22-SunOS-amd64-r108108.pkg it failed as it it not recognised the kernel version. Attempting to use Jim Klimov script to complete the install also failed. After attempting to remove the partially installed VirtualBox 5.0.22 I decided to revert to a previous BE as a quick solution. I had updated my desktop to the latest Hipster release at the weekend. Regards Russell From sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us Thu Jun 23 17:24:23 2016 From: sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us (Jerry Kemp) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 12:24:23 -0500 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox 5.0.22 does not install under OI In-Reply-To: <576C0D38.7070006@willows7.myzen.co.uk> References: <576C0D38.7070006@willows7.myzen.co.uk> Message-ID: <576C1B47.20303@oryx.us> Hello Russell, A post earlier in the month shared this information. ..................................................................... "Workaround is to put: *set disable_smap=1 *in */etc/system* and reboot, before starting VirtualBox", together with "*|touch /etc/vboxinst_vboxflt" ..................................................................... Just wondering if you have this fix in place on your system. Thank you, Jerry On 06/23/16 11:24 AM, russell wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to upgrade to VirtualBox 5.0.22 after first removing VirtualBox 5.0.20. > Unfortunately after starting the install with pkgadd -d > ./VirtualBox-5.0.22-SunOS-amd64-r108108.pkg it failed as it it not recognised > the kernel version. > Attempting to use Jim Klimov script to complete the install also failed. After > attempting to remove the partially installed VirtualBox 5.0.22 I decided to > revert to a previous BE as a quick solution. > > I had updated my desktop to the latest Hipster release at the weekend. > > Regards > > Russell > > > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss From Tim.Mooney at ndsu.edu Thu Jun 23 18:53:47 2016 From: Tim.Mooney at ndsu.edu (Tim Mooney) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:53:47 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Looking for testers: OpenIndiana Hipster vagrant box In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Hello, > >I prepared OpenIndiana vagrant box from the latest hipster 2016.04 snapshot. >This is targeted mostly at users and developers, who do not run OI as their >main platform, but use VirtualBox for developing software or doing illumos >builds on OpenIndiana. This box is created from text installer. GUI variant >can come at the later phase and I am willing to accept contributions for >that. Also, this box comes only with virtualbox as I don?t have access to >VMWare Fusion or Vagrant vmware provider. If somebody has access to it and >is willing to contribute, I?d gladly appreciate it. Thanks much for doing this Adam! I'm not exactly your target audience, since I actually run hipster on my $WORKstation, but considering others in my environment are using vagrant for other debugging and testing I've wanted to see about using vagrant for OI test boxes. Have you spent any time getting vagrant itself working on OI? That's on my todo list too. Tim -- Tim Mooney Tim.Mooney at ndsu.edu Enterprise Computing & Infrastructure 701-231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J6, Quentin Burdick Building 701-231-8541 (Fax) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105-5164 From stream at willows7.myzen.co.uk Fri Jun 24 18:15:35 2016 From: stream at willows7.myzen.co.uk (russell) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 19:15:35 +0100 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox 5.0.22 does not install under OI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <576D78C7.1080306@willows7.myzen.co.uk> Hi Jerry, Sorry, I forgot that you posted the fix. Thanks for the reminder. I have upgraded my /etc/system now Regards Russell Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 12:24:23 -0500 From: Jerry Kemp To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox 5.0.22 does not install under OI Message-ID: <576C1B47.20303 at oryx.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hello Russell, A post earlier in the month shared this information. ..................................................................... "Workaround is to put: *set disable_smap=1 *in */etc/system* and reboot, before starting VirtualBox", together with "*|touch /etc/vboxinst_vboxflt" ..................................................................... Just wondering if you have this fix in place on your system. Thank you, From sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us Fri Jun 24 20:58:01 2016 From: sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us (Jerry Kemp) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 15:58:01 -0500 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox 5.0.22 does not install under OI In-Reply-To: <576D78C7.1080306@willows7.myzen.co.uk> References: <576D78C7.1080306@willows7.myzen.co.uk> Message-ID: <576D9ED9.3080600@oryx.us> NP, glad you are up and running, and that the *fix* still works. Jerry On 06/24/16 01:15 PM, russell wrote: > Hi Jerry, > > Sorry, I forgot that you posted the fix. > Thanks for the reminder. > I have upgraded my /etc/system now > > Regards > > Russell > > > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 12:24:23 -0500 > From: Jerry Kemp > To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana > > Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox 5.0.22 does not install > under OI > Message-ID: <576C1B47.20303 at oryx.us> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello Russell, > > A post earlier in the month shared this information. > > ..................................................................... > "Workaround is to put: *set disable_smap=1 *in */etc/system* and reboot, before > starting VirtualBox", together with "*|touch /etc/vboxinst_vboxflt" > ..................................................................... > > > Just wondering if you have this fix in place on your system. > > Thank you, > > > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss From minikola at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 22:38:25 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 00:38:25 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VirtualBox 5.0.22 does not install under OI In-Reply-To: <576D9ED9.3080600@oryx.us> References: <576D78C7.1080306@willows7.myzen.co.uk> <576D9ED9.3080600@oryx.us> Message-ID: <576DB661.1080709@gmail.com> On 06/24/16 10:58 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: > NP, glad you are up and running, and that the *fix* still works. > > On 06/24/16 01:15 PM, russell wrote: >> Hi Jerry, >> >> Sorry, I forgot that you posted the fix. >> Thanks for the reminder. >> I have upgraded my /etc/system now Hi, see if you can answer below quotes and by hitting reply on e-mail client, for messages to be under the same thread. As before, I made patched VirtualBox package for illumos,OI, using word-by word instructions and patch from Jim Klimov at: https://github.com/jimklimov/vboxconfig_sh As VirtualBox-5.0.22-SunOS-amd64-r108108-illumos.tar.gz : https://mega.nz/#!7UwAVJ4Q!Bqm3Dz8VgwMG_3DiAzaPmtgZ22uHKopbx35cn5FyT8w Sha256: cacc9569e930fa0b375f93baae19a7113f9cee58c44ec2e9e695009e9161e430 https://mega.nz/#!bchQFTgA!n_V5gFlPoS-_0cBotR8LAMoNZbG4D5xmdqBLuutvedw Everyone can patch it himself, but I uploaded mine so can be reused, untill VBox is made for OI. From sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us Fri Jun 24 23:47:58 2016 From: sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us (Jerry Kemp) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 18:47:58 -0500 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What changed my files timestamp? Message-ID: <576DC6AE.5060402@oryx.us> Using the routeadm command as an example. /sbin 445 # ls -l /sbin/routeadm -r-xr-xr-x 1 root bin 45992 Dec 16 2010 /sbin/routeadm /sbin 446 # If I were to look at this file next week, and saw that it was identical, aside from the fact that it now had a new time stamp of 24 June 2016 , is there any way using tools/applications within OpenIndiana to know who or what or what process modified the files time stamp? Or possibly tools external to OpenIndiana? The /bin/stat command provides some interesting details, but nothing like tracking down specifics of who did what. I believe that I already know the answer to this question, but I was asked to research it. If there is an easy answer out their though, my Yahoo-Fu is off today. Thank you, Jerry From carlsonj at workingcode.com Sun Jun 26 19:27:28 2016 From: carlsonj at workingcode.com (James Carlson) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 15:27:28 -0400 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What changed my files timestamp? In-Reply-To: <576DC6AE.5060402@oryx.us> References: <576DC6AE.5060402@oryx.us> Message-ID: On 6/24/2016 7:47 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: > Using the routeadm command as an example. > > /sbin 445 # ls -l /sbin/routeadm > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root bin 45992 Dec 16 2010 /sbin/routeadm > > /sbin 446 # > > > If I were to look at this file next week, and saw that it was identical, > aside from the fact that it now had a new time stamp of > > 24 June 2016 > > , is there any way using tools/applications within OpenIndiana to know > who or what or what process modified the files time stamp? Or possibly > tools external to OpenIndiana? Just to clarify: have you actually seen the mtime on /sbin/routeadm change in an unexpected way, or is that just illustrative of one possible file path you'd like to protect against unwanted change? In general, UNIX doesn't keep records of which process or user made a change. There are records kept for a change from one UID to another (login, su, sudo, pfexec, and the like), and in many cases those are sufficient for locating a culprit, but the records don't include individual changes made. But see also Solaris Auditing, which does in fact do the sorts of things you're describing: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/816-4557/auditov-1/index.html -- James Carlson 42.703N 71.076W From rlhamil at smart.net Sun Jun 26 21:39:20 2016 From: rlhamil at smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 17:39:20 -0400 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What changed my files timestamp? In-Reply-To: References: <576DC6AE.5060402@oryx.us> Message-ID: > On Jun 26, 2016, at 15:27, James Carlson wrote: > > On 6/24/2016 7:47 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: >> Using the routeadm command as an example. >> >> /sbin 445 # ls -l /sbin/routeadm >> >> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root bin 45992 Dec 16 2010 /sbin/routeadm >> >> /sbin 446 # >> >> >> If I were to look at this file next week, and saw that it was identical, >> aside from the fact that it now had a new time stamp of >> >> 24 June 2016 >> >> , is there any way using tools/applications within OpenIndiana to know >> who or what or what process modified the files time stamp? Or possibly >> tools external to OpenIndiana? > > Just to clarify: have you actually seen the mtime on /sbin/routeadm > change in an unexpected way, or is that just illustrative of one > possible file path you'd like to protect against unwanted change? > > In general, UNIX doesn't keep records of which process or user made a > change. There are records kept for a change from one UID to another > (login, su, sudo, pfexec, and the like), and in many cases those are > sufficient for locating a culprit, but the records don't include > individual changes made. > > But see also Solaris Auditing, which does in fact do the sorts of things > you're describing: > > http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/816-4557/auditov-1/index.html > To put to rest concerns as to whether a packaged file was tampered with, there are possibilities: root at t5240ctl:~# pkg search /usr/sbin/routeadm INDEX ACTION VALUE PACKAGE path file usr/sbin/routeadm pkg:/system/network at 0.5.11-0.175.3.0.0.30.0 root at t5240ctl:~# pkg verify pkg:/system/network at 0.5.11-0.175.3.0.0.30.0 root at t5240ctl:~# echo $? 0 There's also "pkg history" to see when changes via the pkg mechanism have been made. But to actually tell exactly what did it, yes, I don't think anything but auditing already set up, and collecting the applicable information, would do that. From sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us Mon Jun 27 06:58:32 2016 From: sun.mail.list47 at oryx.us (Jerry Kemp) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 01:58:32 -0500 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What changed my files timestamp? In-Reply-To: References: <576DC6AE.5060402@oryx.us> Message-ID: <5770CE98.70505@oryx.us> On 06/26/16 04:39 PM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > > But to actually tell exactly what did it, yes, I don't think anything but > auditing already set up, and collecting the applicable information, would do > that. > I just wanted to say thank you to everyone for the replies. I was pretty sure that I knew the answer when I asked it, and that the answer would either be BSM/auditd or some 3rd party utility that did something similar. It was something that I was asked to explorer in further depth at $WORK, and in addition to hitting the search engines, I wanted to ask here also for additional comments. Thanks again for the replies, Jerry From jimklimov at cos.ru Mon Jun 27 15:37:23 2016 From: jimklimov at cos.ru (Jim Klimov) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 17:37:23 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What changed my files timestamp? In-Reply-To: References: <576DC6AE.5060402@oryx.us> Message-ID: 26 ???? 2016??. 21:27:28 CEST, James Carlson ?????: >On 6/24/2016 7:47 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: >> Using the routeadm command as an example. >> >> /sbin 445 # ls -l /sbin/routeadm >> >> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root bin 45992 Dec 16 2010 /sbin/routeadm >> >> /sbin 446 # >> >> >> If I were to look at this file next week, and saw that it was >identical, >> aside from the fact that it now had a new time stamp of >> >> 24 June 2016 >> >> , is there any way using tools/applications within OpenIndiana to >know >> who or what or what process modified the files time stamp? Or >possibly >> tools external to OpenIndiana? > >Just to clarify: have you actually seen the mtime on /sbin/routeadm >change in an unexpected way, or is that just illustrative of one >possible file path you'd like to protect against unwanted change? > >In general, UNIX doesn't keep records of which process or user made a >change. There are records kept for a change from one UID to another >(login, su, sudo, pfexec, and the like), and in many cases those are >sufficient for locating a culprit, but the records don't include >individual changes made. > >But see also Solaris Auditing, which does in fact do the sorts of >things >you're describing: > >http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/816-4557/auditov-1/index.html Also I recently saw an LD_PRELOAD libsnoopy catch exec{ve}() calls and passing lines to logger. Did not test it yet under Solarish OSes, but it was easy to fire up under Debian. Jim -- Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android From jimklimov at cos.ru Mon Jun 27 15:37:23 2016 From: jimklimov at cos.ru (Jim Klimov) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 17:37:23 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What changed my files timestamp? In-Reply-To: References: <576DC6AE.5060402@oryx.us> Message-ID: 26 ???? 2016??. 21:27:28 CEST, James Carlson ?????: >On 6/24/2016 7:47 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: >> Using the routeadm command as an example. >> >> /sbin 445 # ls -l /sbin/routeadm >> >> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root bin 45992 Dec 16 2010 /sbin/routeadm >> >> /sbin 446 # >> >> >> If I were to look at this file next week, and saw that it was >identical, >> aside from the fact that it now had a new time stamp of >> >> 24 June 2016 >> >> , is there any way using tools/applications within OpenIndiana to >know >> who or what or what process modified the files time stamp? Or >possibly >> tools external to OpenIndiana? > >Just to clarify: have you actually seen the mtime on /sbin/routeadm >change in an unexpected way, or is that just illustrative of one >possible file path you'd like to protect against unwanted change? > >In general, UNIX doesn't keep records of which process or user made a >change. There are records kept for a change from one UID to another >(login, su, sudo, pfexec, and the like), and in many cases those are >sufficient for locating a culprit, but the records don't include >individual changes made. > >But see also Solaris Auditing, which does in fact do the sorts of >things >you're describing: > >http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/816-4557/auditov-1/index.html Also I recently saw an LD_PRELOAD libsnoopy catch exec{ve}() calls and passing lines to logger. Did not test it yet under Solarish OSes, but it was easy to fire up under Debian. Jim -- Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Tue Jun 28 06:27:23 2016 From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Predrag_Ze=c4=8devi=c4=87_-_Unix_Systems_Administrator?=) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 08:27:23 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Time-Slider failure after latest changes: Message-ID: <319a147f-934f-2e68-d363-e3fc01ebba20@2e-systems.com> Hi All, after change https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/commit/c6e2e7989118f2b21779e1888cbddf63a32e6d84 time-slider service has failed: [ Jun 28 07:45:45 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/time-slider start"). ] Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/time-sliderd", line 7, in from time_slider.timesliderd import main File "/usr/lib/../share/time-slider/lib/time_slider/timesliderd.py", line 18, in import glib ImportError: No module named glib Time Slider failed to start: error 1 [ Jun 28 07:45:45 Method "start" exited with status 95. ] Anyone has idea? Regards. -- Predrag Ze?evi? Technical Support Analyst 2e Systems GmbH Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894 Mobile: +49 174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic E-mail: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Headquarter: 2e Systems GmbH, K?nigsteiner Str. 87, 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany Company registration: Amtsgericht K?nigstein (Germany), HRB 7303 Managing director: Phil Douglas http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly! From minikola at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 07:13:37 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 09:13:37 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Time-Slider failure after latest changes: In-Reply-To: <319a147f-934f-2e68-d363-e3fc01ebba20@2e-systems.com> References: <319a147f-934f-2e68-d363-e3fc01ebba20@2e-systems.com> Message-ID: <577223A1.80102@gmail.com> On 06/28/16 08:27 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: > Hi All, > > after change > https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/commit/c6e2e7989118f2b21779e1888cbddf63a32e6d84 > > time-slider service has failed: > > [ Jun 28 07:45:45 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/time-slider > start"). ] > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/lib/time-sliderd", line 7, in > from time_slider.timesliderd import main > File "/usr/lib/../share/time-slider/lib/time_slider/timesliderd.py", > line 18, in > import glib > ImportError: No module named glib > Time Slider failed to start: error 1 > [ Jun 28 07:45:45 Method "start" exited with status 95. ] > > Anyone has idea? Hi, what is your userland-incorporation ? (and osnet-incorporation). I have time-slider now online (enabled with GUI, entering admin account username/password from System>Administration>Time Slider) . My HD space is low so I suppose it reduces number of snapshots it makes, but since enabling it made monthly and frequent snapshot (s). I would like to try to reproduce it, Do you get the message when trying to have time-slider service online with svcadm? I didn't reboot yet after enabling it with GUI. Userland 6704 and osnet 15736 here, updated yesterday. (userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6704:20160626T184119Z , osnet-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.15736:20160623T133447Z) From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Tue Jun 28 07:29:03 2016 From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Predrag_Ze=c4=8devi=c4=87_-_Unix_Systems_Administrator?=) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 09:29:03 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Time-Slider failure after latest changes: In-Reply-To: <577223A1.80102@gmail.com> References: <319a147f-934f-2e68-d363-e3fc01ebba20@2e-systems.com> <577223A1.80102@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7ed7e909-ea9c-66b2-3597-0eacb4cc403e@2e-systems.com> On 06/28/16 09:13 AM, Nikola M wrote: > On 06/28/16 08:27 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> after change >> https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/commit/c6e2e7989118f2b21779e1888cbddf63a32e6d84 >> >> time-slider service has failed: >> >> [ Jun 28 07:45:45 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/time-slider >> start"). ] >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "/usr/lib/time-sliderd", line 7, in >> from time_slider.timesliderd import main >> File "/usr/lib/../share/time-slider/lib/time_slider/timesliderd.py", >> line 18, in >> import glib >> ImportError: No module named glib >> Time Slider failed to start: error 1 >> [ Jun 28 07:45:45 Method "start" exited with status 95. ] >> >> Anyone has idea? > > Hi, what is your userland-incorporation ? (and osnet-incorporation). > > I have time-slider now online (enabled with GUI, entering admin account > username/password from System>Administration>Time Slider) . > My HD space is low so I suppose it reduces number of snapshots it makes, > but since enabling it made monthly and frequent snapshot (s). > > I would like to try to reproduce it, Do you get the message when trying > to have time-slider service online with svcadm? > I didn't reboot yet after enabling it with GUI. Userland 6704 and osnet > 15736 here, updated yesterday. > (userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6704:20160626T184119Z , > osnet-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.15736:20160623T133447Z) > > Hi Nikola, This is interesting: $ pkg list | grep -E "(userland|osnet).*incorporation" consolidation/osnet/osnet-incorporation (openindiana.org) 0.5.11-2016.0.0.15736 i-- [Looks like I have no userland one? Is that OK?] $ svcs -xv svc:/application/time-slider:default (GNOME Desktop Snapshot Management Service) State: maintenance since June 28, 2016 07:45:45 AM CEST Reason: Start method exited with $SMF_EXIT_ERR_FATAL. See: http://illumos.org/msg/SMF-8000-KS See: man -M /usr/share/man -s 1M zfs See: /var/svc/log/application-time-slider:default.log Impact: 5 dependent services are not running: svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:daily svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:frequent svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:hourly svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:monthly svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:weekly And $ pfexec svcadm clear time-slider command resulted with same error in /var/adm/messages. Shall I install userland-incorporation? $ pfexec pkg install -vn userland-incorporation Packages to install: 1 Estimated space available: 104.94 GB Estimated space to be consumed: 235.75 MB Create boot environment: No Create backup boot environment: No Rebuild boot archive: No Changed packages: openindiana.org consolidation/userland/userland-incorporation None -> 0.5.11-2015.0.2.5954 Planning linked: 0/1 done; 1 working: zone:hipster Linked image 'zone:hipster' output: | Estimated space available: 104.94 GB | Estimated space to be consumed: 231.55 MB | Rebuild boot archive: No ` Planning linked: 1/1 done $ pkg contents -r userland-incorporation pkg: This package delivers no filesystem content, but may contain metadata. Use the -o option to specify fields other than 'path', or use the -m option to show the raw package manifests. Regards... Predrag Ze?evi? > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- Predrag Ze?evi? Technical Support Analyst 2e Systems GmbH Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894 Mobile: +49 174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic E-mail: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Headquarter: 2e Systems GmbH, K?nigsteiner Str. 87, 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany Company registration: Amtsgericht K?nigstein (Germany), HRB 7303 Managing director: Phil Douglas http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly! From minikola at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 07:50:49 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 09:50:49 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Time-Slider failure after latest changes: In-Reply-To: <7ed7e909-ea9c-66b2-3597-0eacb4cc403e@2e-systems.com> References: <319a147f-934f-2e68-d363-e3fc01ebba20@2e-systems.com> <577223A1.80102@gmail.com> <7ed7e909-ea9c-66b2-3597-0eacb4cc403e@2e-systems.com> Message-ID: <57722C59.1070303@gmail.com> On 06/28/16 09:29 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: > > On 06/28/16 09:13 AM, Nikola M wrote: >> On 06/28/16 08:27 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator >> wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> after change >>> https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/commit/c6e2e7989118f2b21779e1888cbddf63a32e6d84 >>> >>> >>> time-slider service has failed: >>> >>> [ Jun 28 07:45:45 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/time-slider >>> start"). ] >>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>> File "/usr/lib/time-sliderd", line 7, in >>> from time_slider.timesliderd import main >>> File "/usr/lib/../share/time-slider/lib/time_slider/timesliderd.py", >>> line 18, in >>> import glib >>> ImportError: No module named glib >>> Time Slider failed to start: error 1 >>> [ Jun 28 07:45:45 Method "start" exited with status 95. ] >>> >>> Anyone has idea? >> >> Hi, what is your userland-incorporation ? (and osnet-incorporation). >> >> I have time-slider now online (enabled with GUI, entering admin account >> username/password from System>Administration>Time Slider) . >> My HD space is low so I suppose it reduces number of snapshots it makes, >> but since enabling it made monthly and frequent snapshot (s). >> >> I would like to try to reproduce it, Do you get the message when trying >> to have time-slider service online with svcadm? >> I didn't reboot yet after enabling it with GUI. Userland 6704 and osnet >> 15736 here, updated yesterday. >> (userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6704:20160626T184119Z , >> osnet-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.15736:20160623T133447Z) >> >> > Hi Nikola, > This is interesting: About reported bug, alp seems to nailed it, just need to build and land in /hipster publisher: https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/commit/2b90a552545430335eb8ed4b0b7d69aa3d7b09a5 See how it goes for you after landing. Btw, do you have any more complicated/custom time-slider service settings? > > $ pkg list | grep -E "(userland|osnet).*incorporation" > consolidation/osnet/osnet-incorporation (openindiana.org) > 0.5.11-2016.0.0.15736 i-- > > [Looks like I have no userland one? Is that OK?] You can normally have both entire and userland-incorporation and osnet-incorporation, to be at the same level with regular installs. I uninstall them only temporarily when testing something. There is an idea to have also hipster-incorporation, numbered, so that one can refer it as both userland-incorporation and osnet-incorporation when reporting bugs and reproducing. Untill there is hipster-incorporation one needs to hunt what osnet coincided with what userland to reproduce packages state at some exact time. Now one wanting to test/have it's own packages installed removes entire and userland-incorporation and/or osnet-incorporation , only difference would be it needs to remove one more incorporation (hipster-incorporation) or use facets for it. From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Tue Jun 28 08:17:08 2016 From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Predrag_Ze=c4=8devi=c4=87_-_Unix_Systems_Administrator?=) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:17:08 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Time-Slider failure after latest changes: In-Reply-To: <57722C59.1070303@gmail.com> References: <319a147f-934f-2e68-d363-e3fc01ebba20@2e-systems.com> <577223A1.80102@gmail.com> <7ed7e909-ea9c-66b2-3597-0eacb4cc403e@2e-systems.com> <57722C59.1070303@gmail.com> Message-ID: <98b3f4a0-ba00-bfca-bda8-bf3c4ddc768e@2e-systems.com> On 06/28/16 09:50 AM, Nikola M wrote: > On 06/28/16 09:29 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: >> >> On 06/28/16 09:13 AM, Nikola M wrote: >>> On 06/28/16 08:27 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator >>> wrote: >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> after change >>>> https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/commit/c6e2e7989118f2b21779e1888cbddf63a32e6d84 >>>> >>>> >>>> time-slider service has failed: >>>> >>>> [ Jun 28 07:45:45 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/time-slider >>>> start"). ] >>>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>>> File "/usr/lib/time-sliderd", line 7, in >>>> from time_slider.timesliderd import main >>>> File "/usr/lib/../share/time-slider/lib/time_slider/timesliderd.py", >>>> line 18, in >>>> import glib >>>> ImportError: No module named glib >>>> Time Slider failed to start: error 1 >>>> [ Jun 28 07:45:45 Method "start" exited with status 95. ] >>>> >>>> Anyone has idea? >>> >>> Hi, what is your userland-incorporation ? (and osnet-incorporation). >>> >>> I have time-slider now online (enabled with GUI, entering admin account >>> username/password from System>Administration>Time Slider) . >>> My HD space is low so I suppose it reduces number of snapshots it makes, >>> but since enabling it made monthly and frequent snapshot (s). >>> >>> I would like to try to reproduce it, Do you get the message when trying >>> to have time-slider service online with svcadm? >>> I didn't reboot yet after enabling it with GUI. Userland 6704 and osnet >>> 15736 here, updated yesterday. >>> (userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6704:20160626T184119Z , >>> osnet-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.15736:20160623T133447Z) >>> >>> >> Hi Nikola, >> This is interesting: > > About reported bug, alp seems to nailed it, > just need to build and land in /hipster publisher: > https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/commit/2b90a552545430335eb8ed4b0b7d69aa3d7b09a5 > > See how it goes for you after landing. Btw, do you have any more > complicated/custom time-slider service settings? > >> >> $ pkg list | grep -E "(userland|osnet).*incorporation" >> consolidation/osnet/osnet-incorporation (openindiana.org) >> 0.5.11-2016.0.0.15736 i-- >> >> [Looks like I have no userland one? Is that OK?] > > You can normally have both entire and userland-incorporation and > osnet-incorporation, to be at the same level with regular installs. > I uninstall them only temporarily when testing something. > > There is an idea to have also hipster-incorporation, numbered, so that > one can refer it as both userland-incorporation and osnet-incorporation > when reporting bugs and reproducing. > Untill there is hipster-incorporation one needs to hunt what osnet > coincided with what userland to reproduce packages state at some exact time. > > Now one wanting to test/have it's own packages installed removes entire > and userland-incorporation and/or osnet-incorporation , only difference > would be it needs to remove one more incorporation > (hipster-incorporation) or use facets > > for it. > Thanks for tip! That has fixed it: $ pfexec pkg install -v library/python/pygobject-27 Now I have cleared maintenance and time-slider is started as service... What is not working yet is System -> Administration -> Time Slider GUI tool for setup... Also, when called from shell: $ /usr/bin/time-slider-setup It exists straightaway out w/o any message... Probably something else is still missing... Regards. > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- Predrag Ze?evi? Technical Support Analyst 2e Systems GmbH Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894 Mobile: +49 174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic E-mail: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Headquarter: 2e Systems GmbH, K?nigsteiner Str. 87, 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany Company registration: Amtsgericht K?nigstein (Germany), HRB 7303 Managing director: Phil Douglas http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly! From minikola at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 08:27:52 2016 From: minikola at gmail.com (Nikola M) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:27:52 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Time-Slider failure after latest changes: In-Reply-To: <98b3f4a0-ba00-bfca-bda8-bf3c4ddc768e@2e-systems.com> References: <319a147f-934f-2e68-d363-e3fc01ebba20@2e-systems.com> <577223A1.80102@gmail.com> <7ed7e909-ea9c-66b2-3597-0eacb4cc403e@2e-systems.com> <57722C59.1070303@gmail.com> <98b3f4a0-ba00-bfca-bda8-bf3c4ddc768e@2e-systems.com> Message-ID: <57723508.40405@gmail.com> On 06/28/16 10:17 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: > Thanks for tip! > > That has fixed it: > $ pfexec pkg install -v library/python/pygobject-27 > > Now I have cleared maintenance and time-slider is started as service... > > What is not working yet is System -> Administration -> Time Slider GUI > tool for setup... Also, when called from shell: > $ /usr/bin/time-slider-setup > > It exists straightaway out w/o any message... > > Probably something else is still missing... I just used it minutes ago and it worked for me actually (using GUI setup for time-slider), but I am using separate account with admin/roles rights , not the one I logged in with. (enter username/password of admin user). Here, (userland-incorporation at 0.5.11-2016.0.0.6704): $ /usr/bin/time-slider-setup ** Message: pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (GtkWindow) ** Message: pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (GtkInvisible) ** Message: pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (GtkObject) It waits a bit and it opens a window to enter a role just fine for me. Try with userland-incorporation and entire installed. Also I actually added several RBAC rights to my login user, I'll check how it beahves with basic ones... Plus it should also work when logged-in as Primary Administrator , even logging in As Primary Administrator is discouraged and system should be regularly used like that. Beside that if not working , it's a bug. From alp at rsu.ru Tue Jun 28 08:54:24 2016 From: alp at rsu.ru (Alexander Pyhalov) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 11:54:24 +0300 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Time-Slider failure after latest changes: In-Reply-To: <98b3f4a0-ba00-bfca-bda8-bf3c4ddc768e@2e-systems.com> References: <319a147f-934f-2e68-d363-e3fc01ebba20@2e-systems.com> <577223A1.80102@gmail.com> <7ed7e909-ea9c-66b2-3597-0eacb4cc403e@2e-systems.com> <57722C59.1070303@gmail.com> <98b3f4a0-ba00-bfca-bda8-bf3c4ddc768e@2e-systems.com> Message-ID: <57723B40.7020804@rsu.ru> On 06/28/16 11:17 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: > That has fixed it: > $ pfexec pkg install -v library/python/pygobject-27 > > Now I have cleared maintenance and time-slider is started as service... > > What is not working yet is System -> Administration -> Time Slider GUI > tool for setup... Also, when called from shell: > $ /usr/bin/time-slider-setup > Check that you have library/python/pygtk2-27 and library/python/pygobject-27 installed? -- Best regards, Alexander Pyhalov, system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Tue Jun 28 09:38:54 2016 From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Predrag_Ze=c4=8devi=c4=87_-_Unix_Systems_Administrator?=) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 11:38:54 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Time-Slider failure after latest changes: In-Reply-To: <57723B40.7020804@rsu.ru> References: <319a147f-934f-2e68-d363-e3fc01ebba20@2e-systems.com> <577223A1.80102@gmail.com> <7ed7e909-ea9c-66b2-3597-0eacb4cc403e@2e-systems.com> <57722C59.1070303@gmail.com> <98b3f4a0-ba00-bfca-bda8-bf3c4ddc768e@2e-systems.com> <57723B40.7020804@rsu.ru> Message-ID: On 06/28/16 10:54 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: > On 06/28/16 11:17 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: >> That has fixed it: >> $ pfexec pkg install -v library/python/pygobject-27 >> >> Now I have cleared maintenance and time-slider is started as service... >> >> What is not working yet is System -> Administration -> Time Slider GUI >> tool for setup... Also, when called from shell: >> $ /usr/bin/time-slider-setup >> > > Check that you have library/python/pygtk2-27 and > library/python/pygobject-27 installed? > > Hi Alp, yes, I have: $ pkg list | grep -E "(pygtk2-27|pygobject-27)" library/python/pygobject-27 (openindiana.org) 2.28.6-2016.0.0.1 i-- library/python/pygtk2-27 (openindiana.org) 2.17.0-2016.0.0.2 i-- Probably was working until latest move to 2.7 (you know: once set it and it has worked). Cannot confirm (until I boot to old BE)... Regards. -- Predrag Ze?evi? Technical Support Analyst 2e Systems GmbH Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894 Mobile: +49 174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic E-mail: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Headquarter: 2e Systems GmbH, K?nigsteiner Str. 87, 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany Company registration: Amtsgericht K?nigstein (Germany), HRB 7303 Managing director: Phil Douglas http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly! From adam.stevko at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 15:40:16 2016 From: adam.stevko at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Adam_=C5=A0tevko?=) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 17:40:16 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Looking for new mirrors in North America and Asia Message-ID: <0F21726A-C915-420B-BB8B-D290ACAD41C9@gmail.com> Hello, I?d like to ask the community if there are some volunteers, who could help with providing some disk space and network bandwidth to provide new package and DLC mirrors for OpenIndiana. I am looking for mirrors mainly in North America and Asia. If you are able to provide some resources, please contact me off-list. Thanks, Adam -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If somebody has access to it and >> is willing to contribute, I?d gladly appreciate it. > > Thanks much for doing this Adam! I'm not exactly your target audience, > since I actually run hipster on my $WORKstation, but considering others > in my environment are using vagrant for other debugging and testing I've > wanted to see about using vagrant for OI test boxes. I am glad I could help and boost OI adoption. > Have you spent any time getting vagrant itself working on OI? That's > on my todo list too. Yes, I did and got vagrant working as separate ruby gems. The main problem with this approach is that packaging every needed gem is too much work and maintenance cost is high. Also, Vagrant webpage doesn?t recommend using gem-based deployment of Vagrant and packages from the official site as recommended. They contain every dependency and Vagrant is self-contained (and it?s much harder to break it!). I tried looking at what would take to contribute OpenIndiana support to the upstream and found out that their build system uses Puppet. I?d appreciate if there is somebody in the community willing to do the work and extend those Puppet manifests and contribute it upstream. I?ll provide and maintain the build infrastructure behind it. With OpenIndiana as a first class citizen, the Vagrant team will do releases (if somebody wants to have an IPS package from it, we can make that happen from official release). This way, we will have regular Vagrant fixes and releases and also be sure that nothing in OI can break it. Cheers, Adam -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <576DC6AE.5060402@oryx.us> Message-ID: <5772B115.8000403@oracle.com> On 06/27/16 08:37 AM, Jim Klimov wrote: > 26 ???? 2016 ?. 21:27:28 CEST, James Carlson ?????: >> On 6/24/2016 7:47 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: >>> Using the routeadm command as an example. >>> >>> /sbin 445 # ls -l /sbin/routeadm >>> >>> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root bin 45992 Dec 16 2010 /sbin/routeadm >>> >>> /sbin 446 # >>> >>> >>> If I were to look at this file next week, and saw that it was >> identical, >>> aside from the fact that it now had a new time stamp of >>> >>> 24 June 2016 >>> >>> , is there any way using tools/applications within OpenIndiana to >> know >>> who or what or what process modified the files time stamp? Or >> possibly >>> tools external to OpenIndiana? >> >> Just to clarify: have you actually seen the mtime on /sbin/routeadm >> change in an unexpected way, or is that just illustrative of one >> possible file path you'd like to protect against unwanted change? >> >> In general, UNIX doesn't keep records of which process or user made a >> change. There are records kept for a change from one UID to another >> (login, su, sudo, pfexec, and the like), and in many cases those are >> sufficient for locating a culprit, but the records don't include >> individual changes made. >> >> But see also Solaris Auditing, which does in fact do the sorts of >> things >> you're describing: >> >> http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/816-4557/auditov-1/index.html > > Also I recently saw an LD_PRELOAD libsnoopy catch exec{ve}() calls and passing lines to logger. Did not test it yet under Solarish OSes, but it was easy to fire up under Debian. That seems useful for debugging, but not auditing, as LD_PRELOAD is ignored by setuid programs, and can be unset in the environment by anyone. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith at oracle.com Oracle Solaris Engineering - http://blogs.oracle.com/alanc From toasterson at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 17:26:45 2016 From: toasterson at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Till_Wegm=c3=bcller?=) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 19:26:45 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Looking for testers: OpenIndiana Hipster vagrant box In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52024b4e-5ead-76f4-f6f4-29752bb79f35@gmail.com> On 28.06.2016 17:50, Adam ?tevko wrote: > Yes, I did and got vagrant working as separate ruby gems. The main problem with this approach is that packaging every needed gem is too much work and maintenance cost is high. Also, Vagrant webpage doesn?t recommend using gem-based deployment of Vagrant and packages from the official site as recommended. They contain every dependency and Vagrant is self-contained (and it?s much harder to break it!). I tried looking at what would take to contribute OpenIndiana support to the upstream and found out that their build system uses Puppet. > > I?d appreciate if there is somebody in the community willing to do the work and extend those Puppet manifests and contribute it upstream. I?ll provide and maintain the build infrastructure behind it. With OpenIndiana as a first class citizen, the Vagrant team will do releases (if somebody wants to have an IPS package from it, we can make that happen from official release). This way, we will have regular Vagrant fixes and releases and also be sure that nothing in OI can break it. > > Cheers, > Adam Hi Adam Arch Linux seems to have found a tar.gz of the upstream packages that it repackages as arch package. Have a look at https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/vagrant Maybe that would also be a way to get vagrant installed. Greetings Till From adam.stevko at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 17:30:00 2016 From: adam.stevko at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Adam_=C5=A0tevko?=) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 19:30:00 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Looking for testers: OpenIndiana Hipster vagrant box In-Reply-To: <52024b4e-5ead-76f4-f6f4-29752bb79f35@gmail.com> References: <52024b4e-5ead-76f4-f6f4-29752bb79f35@gmail.com> Message-ID: <95E650AF-2201-47E0-9B83-2CEFBD13BDB4@gmail.com> Hi Till, > On Jun 28, 2016, at 7:26 PM, Till Wegm?ller wrote: > > > On 28.06.2016 17:50, Adam ?tevko wrote: >> Yes, I did and got vagrant working as separate ruby gems. The main problem with this approach is that packaging every needed gem is too much work and maintenance cost is high. Also, Vagrant webpage doesn?t recommend using gem-based deployment of Vagrant and packages from the official site as recommended. They contain every dependency and Vagrant is self-contained (and it?s much harder to break it!). I tried looking at what would take to contribute OpenIndiana support to the upstream and found out that their build system uses Puppet. >> >> I?d appreciate if there is somebody in the community willing to do the work and extend those Puppet manifests and contribute it upstream. I?ll provide and maintain the build infrastructure behind it. With OpenIndiana as a first class citizen, the Vagrant team will do releases (if somebody wants to have an IPS package from it, we can make that happen from official release). This way, we will have regular Vagrant fixes and releases and also be sure that nothing in OI can break it. >> >> Cheers, >> Adam > Hi Adam > > Arch Linux seems to have found a tar.gz of the upstream packages that it repackages as arch package. > Have a look at https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/vagrant > > Maybe that would also be a way to get vagrant installed. > > Greetings > Till I already considered that option, but the problem is that Vagrant packages compile and bundle Ruby interpreter and there is no package for Solaris, which we could use. I am afraid that there are only 2 approaches: 1) package gems and maintain it ourselves 2) use the official build system and make contribution there Adam -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From alp at rsu.ru Wed Jun 29 09:24:56 2016 From: alp at rsu.ru (Alexander Pyhalov) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 12:24:56 +0300 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Time-Slider failure after latest changes: In-Reply-To: References: <319a147f-934f-2e68-d363-e3fc01ebba20@2e-systems.com> <577223A1.80102@gmail.com> <7ed7e909-ea9c-66b2-3597-0eacb4cc403e@2e-systems.com> <57722C59.1070303@gmail.com> <98b3f4a0-ba00-bfca-bda8-bf3c4ddc768e@2e-systems.com> <57723B40.7020804@rsu.ru> Message-ID: <577393E8.4000508@rsu.ru> On 06/28/16 12:38 PM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: > > $ pkg list | grep -E "(pygtk2-27|pygobject-27)" > library/python/pygobject-27 (openindiana.org) 2.28.6-2016.0.0.1 i-- > library/python/pygtk2-27 (openindiana.org) 2.17.0-2016.0.0.2 i-- > > Probably was working until latest move to 2.7 (you know: once set it and > it has worked). Cannot confirm (until I boot to old BE)... You will also need pycairo-27. -- Best regards, Alexander Pyhalov, system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Wed Jun 29 10:19:20 2016 From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Predrag_Ze=c4=8devi=c4=87_-_Unix_Systems_Administrator?=) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 12:19:20 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Time-Slider failure after latest changes: In-Reply-To: <577393E8.4000508@rsu.ru> References: <319a147f-934f-2e68-d363-e3fc01ebba20@2e-systems.com> <577223A1.80102@gmail.com> <7ed7e909-ea9c-66b2-3597-0eacb4cc403e@2e-systems.com> <57722C59.1070303@gmail.com> <98b3f4a0-ba00-bfca-bda8-bf3c4ddc768e@2e-systems.com> <57723B40.7020804@rsu.ru> <577393E8.4000508@rsu.ru> Message-ID: <8ccfd75c-3b94-24d0-993b-fc4b99b8bbb5@2e-systems.com> On 06/29/16 11:24 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: > On 06/28/16 12:38 PM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: > >> >> $ pkg list | grep -E "(pygtk2-27|pygobject-27)" >> library/python/pygobject-27 (openindiana.org) >> 2.28.6-2016.0.0.1 i-- >> library/python/pygtk2-27 (openindiana.org) >> 2.17.0-2016.0.0.2 i-- >> >> Probably was working until latest move to 2.7 (you know: once set it and >> it has worked). Cannot confirm (until I boot to old BE)... > > You will also need pycairo-27. > Hi Alp. yes, that did it! Maybe to add it to prerequisite packages list for time-slider? Many thanks. Best regards/??????! -- Predrag Ze?evi? Technical Support Analyst 2e Systems GmbH Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894 Mobile: +49 174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic E-mail: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Headquarter: 2e Systems GmbH, K?nigsteiner Str. 87, 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany Company registration: Amtsgericht K?nigstein (Germany), HRB 7303 Managing director: Phil Douglas http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly! From predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Thu Jun 30 14:21:07 2016 From: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Predrag_Ze=c4=8devi=c4=87_-_Unix_Systems_Administrator?=) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 16:21:07 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Developer Studio 12.5 for free... Message-ID: <6ac65307-c232-da92-3269-14316c5197af@2e-systems.com> Hi all, just learned that Oracle gives Studio 12.5 for free: Download Options for Oracle Developer Studio Current Release - Oracle Developer Studio 12.5 Provides perpetual no-cost license for production use and the development of commercial applications. https://blogs.oracle.com//solaris/entry/oracle_developer_studio_12_5 Regards. -- Predrag Ze?evi? Technical Support Analyst 2e Systems GmbH Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894 Mobile: +49 174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic E-mail: predrag.zecevic at 2e-systems.com Headquarter: 2e Systems GmbH, K?nigsteiner Str. 87, 65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany Company registration: Amtsgericht K?nigstein (Germany), HRB 7303 Managing director: Phil Douglas http://www.2e-systems.com/ - Making your business fly! From alan.coopersmith at oracle.com Thu Jun 30 16:09:46 2016 From: alan.coopersmith at oracle.com (Alan Coopersmith) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:09:46 -0700 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Developer Studio 12.5 for free... In-Reply-To: <6ac65307-c232-da92-3269-14316c5197af@2e-systems.com> References: <6ac65307-c232-da92-3269-14316c5197af@2e-systems.com> Message-ID: <5775444A.2060300@oracle.com> On 06/30/16 07:21 AM, Predrag Ze?evi? - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: > Hi all, > > just learned that Oracle gives Studio 12.5 for free: > > Download Options for Oracle Developer Studio > Current Release - Oracle Developer Studio 12.5 > Provides perpetual no-cost license for production use and the development > of commercial applications. > > https://blogs.oracle.com//solaris/entry/oracle_developer_studio_12_5 The 12.5 release is new, but the licensing model is the same as previous releases - free to use, pay for support. Be warned though that OpenIndiana is not an officially supported platform, nor is it tested - you may luck out and have everything work fine, or you may run into dependencies on things Solaris added after OpenSolaris forked into separate open illumos & closed Solaris code bases. -alan- P.S. I am not now, nor have I ever been, an official Oracle spokesperson. Things I say do not override anything published on the Oracle website or in Oracle documentation or licensing agreements. Do not shoot the messenger if you don't like the message. Do not fold, spindle, or mutilate the messenger either. From Tim.Mooney at ndsu.edu Thu Jun 30 18:15:01 2016 From: Tim.Mooney at ndsu.edu (Tim Mooney) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 13:15:01 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Developer Studio 12.5 for free... In-Reply-To: <5775444A.2060300@oracle.com> References: <6ac65307-c232-da92-3269-14316c5197af@2e-systems.com> <5775444A.2060300@oracle.com> Message-ID: In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Developer Studio 12.5 for...: >> https://blogs.oracle.com//solaris/entry/oracle_developer_studio_12_5 > > The 12.5 release is new, but the licensing model is the same as previous > releases - free to use, pay for support. > > Be warned though that OpenIndiana is not an officially supported platform, > nor is it tested - you may luck out and have everything work fine, or you > may run into dependencies on things Solaris added after OpenSolaris forked > into separate open illumos & closed Solaris code bases. To add to what Alan said: I was able to get Studio 12.3 to work on OI 151a9 (/dev) with a little bit of work. 12.4 requires symbol versions from some libraries that oi151a9 just didn't have, though, so I gave up on it. Thinking about it some more, there's something else I could have tried, but at the time I didn't really need 12.4, since 12.3 was working relatively well. I haven't tried Studio 12.4 since I switched my workstation from /dev to /hipster, so no idea if it's better or worse. Tim -- Tim Mooney Tim.Mooney at ndsu.edu Enterprise Computing & Infrastructure 701-231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J6, Quentin Burdick Building 701-231-8541 (Fax) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105-5164