[oi-dev] Developer meeting

Chris Ridd chrisridd at mac.com
Thu Dec 2 07:21:43 UTC 2010


On 2 Dec 2010, at 06:55, Joshua M. Clulow wrote:

> On 2 December 2010 17:19, Chris Ridd <chrisridd at mac.com> wrote:
>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 17:01, Jesus Cea wrote:
>>> I would rather prefer to use XMPP/Jabber. We don't need to use a
>>> "centralized" infraestructure we don't own at all.
>> I agree - there's no reason not to run an XMPP server on openindiana.org, just like it runs an MTA for mail. There are free XMPP servers (ejabberd is one I've heard most about, and would probably be fine for a small group like this) and commercial ones (my company sells the one used at jabber.org for example). We'd be able to keep chat transcripts centrally, that sort of thing.
>> Using irc.freenode.net feels a bit like us choosing to email using Lotus Notes instead of SMTP :-)
> 
> Actually, IRC is a simple mostly-text protocol like SMTP.  XMPP is a
> comparatively complicated suite of endless customisations that happens
> to be Useful(tm) for various kinds of chat - it looks to me a lot more
> like Lotus Notes than IRC does.

I was referring to the standardness of the two systems. XMPP is standard. IRC is not.

> IRC is simple and easy to understand and is already in widespread use
> for this kind of collaboration, including within this project.  I'd
> like to try and attend the meetings but if it requires signing up for
> and maintaining yet another account on yet another collaboration
> system then its probably going to be less of a burden to just read the
> minutes.

IRC's exactly like that for me - a burden that I only got a client for because of OpenIndiana. I'd prefer not to use it.

Cheers,

Chris




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