[oi-dev] OpenSXCE: To live or to die

Mon Jun 3 23:00:46 UTC 2013

Sorry Martin, but I have to agree with Alasdair, the crazy rants all over
the forums just make you out to be insane.

My company is not going to pay you, partly because at the moment they will
not be using your product (at least until there are signs that it would be
a stable, supported product) and partly because they are a scientific
laboratory, not a computer company,

I would like to see you supported in your work, but I'm a lowly software
engineer in UK with 3 kids, and no pay rise for > 3 years ... so the only
way I could contribute would be to put myself in further debt, and no
matter how good the product is, if I don't have to pay for it, I won't be
paying.

As for making the source available or not, would you not be in breach of
the license terms to withhold it?

Jon

On 3 June 2013 23:26, Alasdair Lumsden <alasdairrr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Martin,
>
> If you make something for free, nobody is obliged to use it, nor pay you
> for it.
>
> These rants do nothing to help your cause. I congratulate you on the
> effort you have gone to make this, but you have to learn to market it to
> users. What are the advantages? Why should people use it?
>
> You need a flashy website, and you need to build a user community. But
> crazy rants will scare people away.
>
> Personally, I don't like SVR4 packaging so it's not something I would use.
> But there are a lot of SVR4 fans, so perhaps you should focus on that.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alasdair
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Martin Bochnig <martin at martux.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>    1. *Martin Bochnig* @*MartinBochnig*
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig> 2h<https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341657908557271040>
>>
>>    FREETARDS
>>       *  Expand  *
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341657908557271040>
>>     2.   [image: Martin Bochnig] *Martin Bochnig* @*MartinBochnig*
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig> 2h<https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341657870779170816>
>>
>>    This is ALL I got since January when the 550 $ came from individual
>>    private donors, summed together. And that all is ever EVER got s. 2009
>>       *  Expand  *
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341657870779170816>
>>     3.   [image: Martin Bochnig] *Martin Bochnig* @*MartinBochnig*
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig> 2h<https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341657081092395010>
>>
>>    Although I even integrated a donation link: On May 8th 5EUR and 50$
>>    and 65$ Yesterday 30EUR. And some kind soul sent me another 50EUR in May
>>       *  Expand  *
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341657081092395010>
>>     4.   [image: Martin Bochnig] *Martin Bochnig* @*MartinBochnig*
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig> 2h<https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341655528495267840>
>>
>>    Let them eat cake!!!
>>       *  Expand  *
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341655528495267840>
>>     5.   [image: Martin Bochnig] *Martin Bochnig* @*MartinBochnig*
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig> 2h<https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341655384353812480>
>>
>>    Olga is 1500 kilometers away and I have no money to visit her, not to
>>    speak live with her. Cake! How does that taste??
>>       * Collapse *
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341655384353812480>
>>       -  *Reply* <https://twitter.com/martinbochnig#>
>>       -  *Retweet* <https://twitter.com/martinbochnig#>
>>       -  *Favorite* <https://twitter.com/martinbochnig#>
>>       -
>>
>>            1:39 PM - 3 Jun 13 · Details<https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341655384353812480>
>>      6.   [image: Martin Bochnig] *Martin Bochnig* @*MartinBochnig*
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig> 2h<https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341655292628586496>
>>
>>    Some cake pls., only have dry old bread w/o anything here. I needed
>>    to switch off my fridge to save electricity. No joke.
>>       *  Expand  *
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341655292628586496>
>>     7.   [image: Martin Bochnig] *Martin Bochnig* @*MartinBochnig*
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig> 2h<https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341655187796148225>
>>
>>    Folks pay for every SHIT. Even if they go to the Restaurant toilet.
>>    Why not for somebody like me who has donated much of his LIFE ????????
>>       *  Expand  *
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341655187796148225>
>>     8.   [image: Martin Bochnig] *Martin Bochnig* @*MartinBochnig*
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig> 2h<https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341655102173626368>
>>
>>    BECAUSE SORRY BUT I ALSO NEED TO EAT
>>       *  Expand  *
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341655102173626368>
>>     9.   [image: Martin Bochnig] *Martin Bochnig* @*MartinBochnig*
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig> 2h<https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341655013409574915>
>>
>>    I did enough in advance. Now its their turn. If they refuse, then
>>    OpenSXCE may stay binary only and fill the SPARC niche in a commercially.
>>       *  Expand  *
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341655013409574915>
>>     10.   [image: Martin Bochnig] *Martin Bochnig* @*MartinBochnig*
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig> 2h<https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341654750053400576>
>>
>>    If Illumos likes us, they should be willing to do at least SOMEthing.
>>       *  Expand  *
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341654750053400576>
>>     11.   [image: Martin Bochnig] *Martin Bochnig* @*MartinBochnig*
>>    <https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig> 2h<https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig/status/341654715823685632>
>>
>>    How to build stuff or packages? As long as no sponsor helps us, maybe
>>    I never release ANY src.
>>
>>
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