[oi-dev] OI 'hipster' reboot effort

[Garrett D'Amore]

On May 18, 2013, at 8:49 AM, David Höppner <0xffea at gmail.com> wrote:

> no.
> 
> Discussion was about discontinuing the 32-bit kernel and to enable
> 64-bit usr/src/cmd.
> Userland will be 32- and 64-bit. Upstream oracle builds 32- and 64-bit
> libraries, while
> standalone programs are converted to 64-bit only.

And I think that's a great approach for illumos to take as well.  We have to support the 32-bit run time probably ~forever, but we can stop delivering 32-bit *commands*; especially we should not deliver both 32-bit and 64-bit programs -- assuming we are not also delivering a 32-bit kernel.

I'd possibly be OK with the concept of moving 32-bit x86 into a "fork" of illumos (another arch port, along the difference between sparc and x86), so that folks / distros who wanted to deliver a 32-bit system for older CPUs could still do it, but without burdening everyone else (and also without making the 32-bit build carry the 64-bit stuff either. :-)

	- Garrett

> 
> -- David
> 
> On 18 May 2013 07:13, Branden Harper <bharper at chaosweb.us> wrote:
>> Along those lines: there was some discussion about discontinuing 32 bit
>> support in OI.   Is this project planning to move to 64 bit only?
>> 
>> On May 17, 2013 10:12 PM, "Colin Ellis" <panamayacht at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Andrej,
>>> 
>>> is there a bug tracker for this branch and a list of required package
>>> updates somewhere?  I'd like to prioritize my efforts in line with what
>>> others need.
>>> 
>>> Also what compilers are used on this new hipster release?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Andrzej Szeszo <aszeszo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All
>>>> 
>>>> Seeing that the project is slowing down a bit, I have decided that I
>>>> will try to help it get some momentum back.
>>>> 
>>>> Firstly, if you rely on stable OI releases, Jon Tibble will carry on
>>>> producing traditional releases and they will be made available in the
>>>> /dev repo and as installable ISO/USB images. OI 151a8 should be out
>>>> real soon now.
>>>> 
>>>> /dev releases follow traditional Sun/Oracle releng process, which is
>>>> very time consuming. Mainly for that reason it may take a very long
>>>> time before any build system update will be reflected in the package
>>>> repository.
>>>> 
>>>> OI 'hipster' is trying to change the process by switching to a rolling
>>>> release model.
>>>> 
>>>> There is single top-level build repo on Github:
>>>> https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland. If you want to change
>>>> something or add new packages - simply send a pull request.
>>>> 
>>>> Changes to the build repo are automatically picked up by Jenkins
>>>> instance, packages are built and then published to the
>>>> http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster repo. It is all set up and working
>>>> now.
>>>> 
>>>> http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster repo currently consists of /dev
>>>> contents + JT's /dev-test OI 151a8 bits + Milan Jurik's JDS work +
>>>> Jenkins built packages.
>>>> 
>>>> The plan is to improve what's out there incrementally. Eventually it
>>>> should be possible to build complete OS from the Github repo.
>>>> 
>>>> To use /hipster repo, install OI 151a7 and run (as root):
>>>> 
>>>> pkg set-publisher -O http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster openindiana.org
>>>> pkg update -v
>>>> 
>>>> Few people started submitting changes already. Thanks for that! If you
>>>> have something to be added or changed in the repo, simply send us pull
>>>> request.
>>>> 
>>>> Couple useful links:
>>>> Jenkins dashboard: http://hipster.openindiana.org:8080/
>>>> Component build logs: http://hipster.openindiana.org/i386/logs/
>>>> 
>>>> Andrzej
>>>> 
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