[oi-dev] Resignation

[Nikola M.]

On 08/11/14 08:22 PM, Milan Jurik wrote:
> Hi,
>
> based on the current situation with OI - lack of old OI non-hipster
> branch - and because of bad situation (according my view) of Illumos -
> like stupid ideas to include large chunks of 3rd party code to ON gate
> which makes it unmaintainable (why did Sun and Oracle invest so much to
> remove OpenSSL, SunSSH and ksh from ON gate? See how bad is ksh in
> Illumos and how old is Illumos SSH) I have to finalize my decision about
> my participation. Illumos and its distros are not for me anymore.
I think idea behind that is to have current SSH for illumos, and later 
to remove it from illumos.
But It is yet to be determined are there SPARC hardware crypto support 
inside new solution (that is present in SunSSH), because that would be 
very short-sighted if it is not.
GDA even tried to remove UltraSPARC T1/T2 support (?). illumos is 
tailored by few large companies wishes , that actually pay developers, 
but it is always possible to contribute.
> opensolaris.cz will be up for some time but no more updates to JDS and
> SFE. Do not hestitate to contact me in private if you think I still know
> something but I will not spend more time on the lists.
> If anybody is interested in some older bits then:
>
> http://www.opensolaris.cz/builds/illumos-wpa-enterprise/webrev/
> http://www.opensolaris.cz/builds/tnf/webrev/
> http://www.opensolaris.cz/builds/ext2-merge/webrev/
That sounds a bit interesting, since Hipster is much more BSD-style 
development by few commiters and yet I understand you left for BSD.
Hipster broke code consolidations some time ago and without actual 
numbered versions that are pushed, it is hard to test and debug many new 
bugs. (And without resurrected 'updatemanager' to update regularly)

There is large disproportion between number of people wanting just to 
install and use OI and illumos distributions and those that want to 
maintain and work on it.
Current situation in OI is tailored for small number of hands active and 
it is extracting maximum results from current situation, but that would 
be changing (together with dev process) as more people are involved again.

Maybe good way to start further is Install OI from 151a3 (to get Zpool 
28 by default for S11 compatibility) and upgrade to 151a8 or install 
from 151a8 directly. And then upgrade from it to Hipster 
(/hipster-2014.1) and to see what could be done to upgrading individual 
packages of interest for.

Again, breaking consolidations like JDS is not good but it requires 
people in TEAMS working together on same project, so more people involved.
We will all love to se newer releases in /dev but that needs making 
releases out of Hipster that goes in line with continuing from latest /dev.

Maybe general problem is illumos itself not having numbered releases to 
have some basis for maintaining patches for some stable version, and 
that reflect distributions in a bad way.

-- 

Nikola M.