[oi-dev] [developer] suspend/resume in Illumos

[Jim Klimov]

On June 11, 2019 9:29:23 PM UTC, randyf at sibernet.com wrote:
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>
>On Tue, 11 Jun 2019, Toomas Soome via illumos-developer wrote:
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>> I’d say, anything to encourage people to try, use and join to develop
>[illumos] is very welcome. Better laptop support will definitely be
>> bonus.
>
> Betting better graphics support would be higher on the list (yea, the 
>other 'dropped' project).
>
>   Cheers!
>
>        ---- Randy
>
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 11 Jun 2019, at 22:58, Garrett D'Amore <garrett at damore.org> wrote:
>> 
>> My gut instinct is that this isn’t that interesting – most everyone
>is running illumos in either VMs, or in datacenter
>> applications where suspend/resume has little if any applicability.
>> 
>> While the work itself is probably interesting, and it may enable new
>applications for illumos, the concern I’d have would be
>> detraction from other more pressing work, without any clear use cases
>for it.
>> 
>> That said, if someone (you?) wanted to spend cycles on this for
>personal satisfaction, I hardly see any reason to discourage it,
>> and I’m fairly certain if the risks of the new code being introduced
>are small (or well managed by sufficient testing for
>> example), I can’t see any other reason we would reject a suitably
>formed RTI.
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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>> From: randyf at sibernet.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 11:10 AM
>> To: oi-dev at openindiana.org; developer at lists.illumos.org
>> Subject: [developer] suspend/resume in Illumos
>> 
>> I have a question for developers here:
>> 
>>     How important is suspend/resume for OI/Illumos (including S4)?
>> 
>> One of the incomplete projects left behind was S4 (lack of need, and
>a
>> 
>> hard to identify bug stifled it's integration).  It is non-trivial,
>and
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>> needs updated s/r core code (added configuration and significant
>> 
>> restructuring, as well as likely assistance from developers
>knowlegable in
>> 
>> other Illumos internals), but if this is an uninteresting feature, it
>is
>> 
>> likey not worth the effort (recent bugs suggest that few if anyone
>use
>> 
>> it); however, it wouldn't be too hard to resurect (though would still
>take
>> 
>> several months of work).
>> 
>>    Cheers!
>> 
>>         ---- Randy
>> 
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For my 2c, I have to use OI in a VM rather than baremetal on my laptop (would love to some day; it is part of my daily desktop for years now) because of a mix of these issues. While graphics and wifi drivers might be worked around by careful choice of hardware for a new rig, effective lack of sleep/hibernate is a big problem.

My sessions of desktop OS uptime tend to be weeks and months long, many apps and tabs open... so rebooting every morning is not quite an option.

Jim

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