[oi-dev] FLAG-DAY: We started to obsolete python 2.7 and 3.5

[Aurélien Larcher]

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:00 PM Marcel Telka <marcel at telka.sk> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 03:18:29PM +0200, Aurélien Larcher wrote:
> > I do not understand the need for obsoleting the entire package and
> removing
> > all the files instead of updating on the go.
> >
> > Could you explain the motivation?
>
> There is no particular need.  It is just simpler to obsolete than to
> update.  And since there is no known consumer, then the obsoletion is
> the obvious option chosen.
>

We could define some rules or information depending on the nature of the
package to mark which dependencies are expected.
Some python modules have been added for the sake of resolving a dependency
while others have no consumer in userland but are expected to be installed
as "standalone" and consumed by users directly.

Also I am not sure I understood which type of dependencies are considered
here:
- resolved within userland either directly or added explicitly in the
manifest
- build requirements
- dependencies detected by pipdeptree (which are a superset of what
pkg/userland detects)

I just want to make sure that we do not miss some border effects.



>
> > To me this seems a bit of overhead, like removing the mkdocs, cython,
> numpy
> > packages completely from the tree instead of updating them.
>
> Feel free to create PRs to get them back.
>
> > We therefore lose track of what was in the tree and people may start from
> > scratch all over again.
> >
> > Maybe you intend to provide some level of automation later?
>
> Maybe.  If I find it easy to do I'll do so, but I've no immediate plan
> to do so.
>
> > An earlier heads-up before starting to remove everything could have been
> > nice to have a chance to update a few components in advance and avoid the
> > mumbo-jumbo.
>
> Sorry.  I try to do my best.  Nothing is perfect.
>
> Anyway, an earlier update/rebuild of those packages for non-EOLed python
> would be nice from you before you left them fall out of support and be
> surprised that they are disappearing.
>
> Sorry, talking is easy.
>
>
> Thank you.
>
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