[OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 Express available

Gabriel de la Cruz gabriel.delacruz at gmail.com
Tue Nov 16 19:22:42 UTC 2010

Thanks Kyle, thats interesting...

I wonder if you can do that anywhere in Scandinavia..

It feels like charging the TV fee, they can knock your door and ask if you
have tv... but if you know your rights...

Anyway, the question came just for curiosity. I do not need Solaris 11 as
long as OpenIndiana exists.

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Gabriel de la Cruz <
gabriel.delacruz at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was replying to Daniel's comment on the 'we will watch to make sure you
> don't violate this'. There are EULAs and EULAs, the violation of some of
> them are easy to point out, others basically impossible. I dont say anyone
> will spy on you, I am just telling no one will do, because of the law, so
> anyway this EULA relies on highly abstract concepts. Pointing out a
> violation of a "testing and demonstration" rule involving the use of an
> operation system would need either a court environment all the way from the
> beginning, either one of those insane license descriptions.
> I was wondering that if Oracle suspect that someone is misusing their
> products, how do they proceed? Do they send you a formulaire?
> I am no accusing or neither paranoid... I am just stating that whatever is
> EULA says, there is no way to point out if you do it well, not, partly or
> all the way wrong. I even wonder if there is a way to know at all in some
> cases. Writing boundaries is not allways the best idea.
> Reading Oracle DB licensing paper was a very necessary but very unpleasant
> thing to do; There is no way to make a proper use of the licensing system
> without reading it, you would otherwise violate its rules all around your
> organization without even knowing it.
> The world is large, and their options gigantic, but they just choose a way
> to do the things that could get very twisted, depending on what kind of use
> you want to make.
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Alan Coopersmith <
> alan.coopersmith at oracle.com> wrote:
>> Gabriel de la Cruz wrote:
>> > Just for curiosity, how does Oracle check what kind of use you make of
>> an
>> > operating system? In order to evaluate third party communications or
>> private
>> > information this information should be already public (what means, the
>> > information should not be private at all). Otherwise they don't have the
>> > right to read a single packet of data. I dont think there is a way to
>> > consider any data hosted in an OS as a publicly shared source of
>> > information... and no communication behind a password is public. Testing
>> and
>> > demonstration are not required to be public actions either.. as they
>> could
>> > be handling very sensitive information. How are they tracking the
>> computer's
>> > activity?
>> Who said anything about snooping on your data or communications to verify
>> the
>> use?   Try turning down the paranoia level a little bit - it's just a
>> EULA.
>> --
>>        -Alan Coopersmith-        alan.coopersmith at oracle.com
>>         Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System
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