[OpenIndiana-discuss] BAD WD drives - defective by design?

Rennie Allen rennieallen at gmail.com
Mon Aug 29 21:22:20 UTC 2011


I think Rich was suggesting using 4k sectors on the file system, not asking
what the drives sector size was.

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk <roy at karlsbakk.net>wrote:

> All drives have 512b sector sizes, WD FASS (blacks) and WD EADS (greens)
> both use plain old 512 sectors.....
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > The drives are attached to a backplane?
> >
> > Try using 4k sector sizes and see if that improves it - I've seen and
> > been part of a number of discussions which involved this - and you, I
> > think, actually.
> >
> > - Rich
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
> > <roy at karlsbakk.net> wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > It seems recent WD drives that aren't "Raid edition" can cause
> > > rather a lot of problems on RAID systems. We have a few machines
> > > with LSI controllers (6801/6081/9201) and we're seeing massive
> > > errors occuring. The usual pattern is a drive failing or even a
> > > resilver/scrub starting and then, suddenly, most drives on the whole
> > > backplane report errors. These are usually No Device (as reported by
> > > iostat -En), but the result is that we may see data corruption at
> > > the end. We also have a system setup with Hitachi Deskstars, which
> > > has been running for almost a year without issues. One system with a
> > > mixture of WD Blacks and greens showed the same errors as described,
> > > but has been working well after the WD drives were replaced by
> > > deskstars.
> > >
> > > Now, it seems WD has changed their firmware to inhibit people from
> > > using them for other things than toys (read: PCs etc). Since we've
> > > seen this issue on different controllers and different drives, and
> > > can't reproduce it with Hitachi Deskstars, I would guess the
> > > firmware "upgrade" from WD is the issue.
> > >
> > > Would it be possible to fix this in ZFS somehow? The drives seem to
> > > work well except for those "No Device" errors....
> > >
> > > Vennlige hilsener / Best regards
> > >
> > > roy
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>
> roy
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