[OpenIndiana-discuss] Update info?

Christopher Chan christopher.chan at bradbury.edu.hk
Tue May 24 02:09:10 UTC 2011


On Tuesday, May 24, 2011 09:51 AM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
>
> On May 23, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Christopher Chan wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2011 08:51 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>> I must have missed that part of the thread but sudo predates Linux by at
>>> least ten years; http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/history.html
>>>
>>
>> It's the same old Solaris admin versus Linux admin thingy. Any shortcomings/non-existing feature in Solaris are ignored/brushed off and anything remotely 'Linux' related gets put on the grill immediately.
>>
>> I can understand wanting to keep the same interfaces but making rabid attacks on stuff that are additional just because they are the current Linux practice is really irrational. Hence stuff like sudo is a Linux thing...
>
> Nothing wrong with sudo, or even with having both RBAC and sudo.
>
> Something wrong with changing Solaris to look more like Linux when
> there's no good reason except familiarity for Linux users, since
> it _breaks_ familiarity for Solaris users.  I don't think it's unreasonable that might upset people, although this case is not a great example of one worth picking a fight over, IMO.

Even for me. When I installed OI_147, I had to go and add that Primary 
administrator role (what's that about secure installations?) so that I 
can use pfexec. But sheesh, going rabid to the point to treating sudo as 
a GNU / Linux thing?


>
> OTOH, either finding a better way to use RBAC for this particular purpose, or using sudo instead, is probably an improvement on how RBAC was previously being used for this.
>

Using sudo to switch to 'administrative' mode is something that I don't 
really like. It's an Ubuntu thing. sudo is for scripts and for giving 
limited access to certain stuff to certain accounts. If I had to become 
root, I prefer doing 'su -'.

So please, drop the 'sudo is a Linux thing'. It is not. It is specific 
to only one particularly popular Linux distro aimed at users and not 
admins. For the record.



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