[OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 11/11 Opensource part1 and part2

Open Indiana openindiana at out-side.nl
Thu Feb 2 08:45:18 UTC 2012


"their pricing is just way out through the stratosphere..."

I have an X4140 and upgraded to Solaris 11 for 633,- per year. This
including hardware-support.
Compared with an upgrade to Windows datacenter (4000,- euro) and calculating
lifetime of the server it was a bargain.

Nevertheless, I think that OpenIndiana guards the openness of the sourcecode
of Solaris 10 and 11. Oracle will discover that Sun made a good decision by
getting the opensource community involved in the improvement of the code.
IMHO openindiana and Oracle will meet in the next coming years.
A bit like the Suse/OpenSuse way of living.

What happened in the past year is a complete disaster to all who are (or
were) in love with Solaris.

The uncertainty regarding the survival of Solaris made the source code a
honey pot for many. I personally hate it that other OS's and suppliers get a
grip at ZFS and try to make profit with it.

ZFS should stay within Solaris and OpenIndiana, but should be blocked to be
used or sold by other vendors and or OS's. That's why Oracle and OpenIndiana
should combine their strengths. 

You want an open source product with low setup-costs and a large community?
Use OpenIndiana
You want the above, but with security packs and 24/7 support? Use Solaris 11

Examples? OpenNMS, Liferay, Alfresco and many, many more




-----Original Message-----
From: Sašo Kiselkov [mailto:skiselkov.ml at gmail.com]
Sent: donderdag 2 februari 2012 0:11
To: openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris 11 11/11 Opensource part1 and
part2

On 02/02/2012 12:04 AM, Michael Kerpan wrote:
> I take it that the once-promised/planned kernel source release for
> Solaris 11 is officially canceled...
>
> Frankly, this whole situation reminds me a bit of the situation with
> Borland's InterBase DBMS. First, it was released as open source and
> then new owners got cold feet and took it closed again. Since that
> point, the fork of the last open release (now known as Firebird) has
> continued strong, while the closed version has essentially sunk
> without a trace. Unless Oracle wises up, I forsee a similar outcome in
> Solaris-land.

I'd love for that to be true, but so far, OpenIndiana is really quite far
off its intended goals. I'd love to be able to deploy OI in production
environments with the peace of mind that comes with commercial support, but
so far, that's been pretty lacking (and NexentaStor isn't for me, I need a
proper general purpose OS without all the weird storage GUIs and Nexenta's,
frankly, somewhat specialized per-storage-volume licensing model). As much
as I love Solaris, currently Oracle is the only game in town when it comes
to acceptable support and compared to your average RHEL/CentOS, their
pricing is just way out through the stratosphere...

Cheers,
--
Saso

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