[OpenIndiana-discuss] New to the list + SPARC & OpenSolaris
Bryan N Iotti
ironsides.medvet at gmail.com
Wed Jan 11 19:25:13 UTC 2012
Perfect. Thank you all!
Bryan
> Linda Kateley <mailto:linda.kateley at nexenta.com>
> January 11, 2012 8:08 PM
> On 1/11/12 10:57 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
>> On 01/11/12 10:50 AM, Bryan N Iotti wrote:
>>> My question was if I could still use my version of Solaris 9 for
>>> "home hobby
>>> use"or if the new Oracle rules prevented me from it.
>>
>> Oracle no longer distributes Solaris 9, so to use it, you must
>> already have a
>> copy, and are covered by whatever license you got it under.
> Solaris 9 license was free up to 2 cpu's.
>> If your home
>> hobby use includes wanting bug fixes and security patches, then
>> you're out of
>> luck - the only way to get those for any Solaris version now is to
>> pay Oracle.
>>
>
>
> Alan Coopersmith <mailto:alan.coopersmith at oracle.com>
> January 11, 2012 7:57 PM
>
>
> Oracle no longer distributes Solaris 9, so to use it, you must already
> have a
> copy, and are covered by whatever license you got it under. If your
> home
> hobby use includes wanting bug fixes and security patches, then you're
> out of
> luck - the only way to get those for any Solaris version now is to pay
> Oracle.
>
> Magnus <mailto:magnus at yonderway.com>
> January 11, 2012 5:08 PM
>
> I have both of those machines at home. They have their uses. I fear
> this is not one of them.
>
> Memory limitations on the Ultra 5 make any ZFS-based OS impractical.
> Luckily, yours has been upgraded to use SCSI disks, which is a good
> thing, because the IDE controller on that model is dog poo.
>
> The E250 is marginally less bad. Marginally.
>
> Honestly, if you really must use machines this old, I'd suggest
> looking at OpenBSD. It runs exceedingly well on this vintage of
> hardware. It's also maintained quite well so you're not stuck running
> old unpatched software. You won't get ZFS, but then your hardware
> isn't really good for that.
>
> This is a bit of a stretch, but if you had 1 or 2GB of RAM in the
> E250, you could run FreeBSD 9.0 (which was just released this week)
> which is also running zpool 28 but is pretty well supported on a
> number of architectures. I say it's a bit of a stretch, because there
> is no getting around the fact that the hardware you're looking at
> using is very old, very slow, and will not be pleasing to use. The
> E250 will, at least, warm up the room for you. Not a bad feature this
> time of year if you live in the northern hemisphere.
>
> If you want to learn about *modern* flavors of Solaris-y OS's, you're
> really better off with hardware made in the 21st century. It doesn't
> have to be exotic or expensive.
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> Bryan N Iotti <mailto:ironsides.medvet at gmail.com>
> January 11, 2012 12:03 PM
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm new to the list (and to the world of Solaris in general) but have
> been following OpenIndiana consistently for the past year.
>
> Now, I have recently acquired a Sun Ultra 5 (with SCSI disks! ;-) )
> and an Enterprise 250, dirt cheap. I have an original box with the
> Solaris 9 CDs and all the systems work fine.
> I use them at home to learn more about this OS and its underpinnings.
>
> Now, how does Oracle's policy on patches and personal use affect me?
>
> Do I need a support contract (can't afford it, probably move to other
> *NIX) or can I still use these for personal use?
>
> Should I move to OpenSolaris (can't find the SPARC .iso anywhere!) and
> be done with the whole "patch" thing?
>
> Thank you all for your time,
>
> Bryan
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