[OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

[Grant Albitz]

the 9240 controller had the exact same problem spinning up the drives so i am using the single r710 with 12 raid0's at the moment. i will likely stay with this, but i may benchmark the other way for kicks.

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From: Rich [rercola at acm.jhu.edu]
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Should do SATA 3 - I didn't think that SATA 3 speed for STP was an
optional part of the SAS 2.0 spec.

- Rich

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Grant Albitz <GAlbitz at albitz.biz> wrote:
> My reasoning behind the dual controller was simply that each controller has 1gb of nvram cache and I figured the more the better =), I received my 9240 today. It is a 6gbps card, yet it states it only supports sata 2 devices and not sata3. I am going to try it anyways (I have 12 sas drives + 2 256gb Samsung 830 ssds for read cache so I may take a performance hit on the ssds.). At this point I plan on trying all possible configurations. If you have a benchmark test you would like me to run against my setups please post and I can humor you with the results.
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> I would stick with single drive raid 0. I tried what you are talking about in the distant past and it didn't work out so well with manageability or performance.
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> I know performance will be good, far better than wirespeed of a 1gbps for nearline type workloads. If you want some file bench results of my raidz I can put some together.
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> Creating the raid0 doesn't lose any functionality that I am aware of. Using 2 controllers may make sense if you were pure ssd, I don't see how 12 disks could saturate a 6gbps multiport controller.
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> On Jan 11, 2012, at 8:50, Grant Albitz <GAlbitz at Albitz.Biz> wrote:
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>> Also,
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>> As far as the drives go I have the same problem with different drives so I have to question if its really the drives. I was actually wondering if there is some sas command the h200 simply doesnt recognize. I suppose its also possible that the entire dell line of the sudo 7200rpm sas drives are lacking some SAS functionality as well. The lsi 9240-8i should be here tomorrow, i will let you guys know my findings with that. Please let me know your thoughts regarding raid 1 vs a bunch of raid 0s on the controller.
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>> From: Grant Albitz [GAlbitz at Albitz.Biz]
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>> i purchased an lsi controller card last night. if that does not work i have a h700 i can pull. I am curious about the following though:
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>> once you create a raid 0 dont you lose some inherent functionality of zfs? if that is the case would it make more sense for me to do the following:
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>> since my intent is to run the zfs equavilent of raid 10. could i just create a bunch of mirrors on a h700 and then use zfs to stripe them. i wouldnt expect too much of a penalty hit for the controller doing raid 1, and i would suspect a failed drive situation would be more straightforward and "normal"
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>> also i have very little experience with sas expanders. i actually have 2 h700s available to me. would it make sense to install both h700s into the system and run a single channel from each card to the backplane? in my case i would make 6 total raid 1 pairs, 3 on each controller and then stripe them with zfs. this would give me the additional 1gb of cahce.
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>> im just thinking out loud, i wasnt sure if you could connect 2 raid controllers to the dell backplane. i wasnt sure if the backplane was truly split for each channel or if somehow the controller saw all disks on both channels and was multipathing.
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>> Hat to go with h700. Works flawlessly. Had to make single drive raid 0 then create pool. I tried lsi and dell IT firmware to no avail so I assume it's the drives also since hooking any sata drive up did indeed work, just something about the sas drives (not really sas but they are called that).
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>> H700 you will be happy with performance probably not so happy with drive replacement outage though.  No raidctl support and I hate MSM.
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>> On Jan 10, 2012, at 23:38, cryptz <galbitz at albitz.biz> wrote:
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>>> how did you make out with this? i have the same configuration but my
>>> system came with 2tb WD drives. Otherwise our configuration and
>>> symptoms were the same. Did the h700 resolve this? Woudl an LSI 8
>>> port I card be prefered so that we can skip the raid 0 setup?
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