[OpenIndiana-discuss] Hitachi 4 TB disks + HP Microserver + OI 151 + ZFS

andy thomas andy at time-domain.co.uk
Sat May 12 06:07:46 UTC 2012


On Sun, 29 Apr 2012, Enrico wrote:

> thank you Andy for this info
> let us know your experience when you'll setup-up the disks

I didn't have any problems at all when I did this. I added the three 4 TB 
disks to the system alongside the 250 GB disk it was supplied with and 
booted OI 151a off a USB DVD drive after first editing the grub boot 
stanza to replace the $ISADIR variable with 'amd64', as OI doesn't 
auto-detect the fact that this microserver is fitted with a 64-bit CPU.

At the start of the live image installation, OI correctly detects all 4 
disks but reports that only 2 TB of the 4 TB disks is usable if they are 
used as boot disks. So I installed to the 250 GB disk and then created 
the pool with:

 	zpool create lapback1 raidz c2t1d0 c2t2d0 c2t3d0
 	zfs create lapback1/backups

It checks out OK:

 	andy at lapback1:~# zfs list
 	NAME                     USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
 	lapback1                 890K  7.13T   202K  /lapback1
 	lapback1/backups         192K  7.13T   192K  /lapback1/backups
 	rpool                   4.90G   223G  46.5K  /rpool
 	rpool/ROOT              2.93G   223G    31K  legacy
 	rpool/ROOT/openindiana  2.93G   223G  2.91G  /
 	rpool/dump               959M   223G   959M  -
 	rpool/export            34.2M   223G    32K  /export
 	rpool/export/home       34.2M   223G    32K  /export/home
 	rpool/export/home/andy  34.2M   223G  34.2M  /export/home/andy
 	rpool/swap              1020M   224G   137M  -

and:

 	andy at lapback1:~# iostat -en
 	  ---- errors ---
 	  s/w h/w trn tot device
 	    0   0   0   0 c2t0d0
 	    0   0   0   0 c2t1d0
 	    0   0   0   0 c2t2d0
 	    0   0   0   0 c2t3d0


I will be using these servers at a university for automated backups of 
user laptops (Windows, Macs, Linux and the odd FreeBSD user) so that 5 
minutes after a laptop connects to the network, it either backs up 
incrementally or syncs the laptop with the server using rsync. (The 
existing service runs on a Sun E450 running Open Solaris 134 SPARC and 
fitted with 19 x 300 GB disks in three ZFS pools but we now need more 
storage space and 300 GB is the limit for conventional SCSI disks).

I will post any problems I have with this in 'production' here.

Andy

> On 04/29/2012 09:24 AM, andy thomas wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012, Enrico wrote:
>> 
>>> did a little research, just because i'm curious about this, my storage 
>>> needs
>>> are much lower :)
>>> 
>>> they say
>>> (http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=13963218&postcount=4727)
>>> that SB820M south-bridge on n40l has a limit of 3.2tb for hdd capacity. 
>>> but
>>> there are no such details on the official specs:
>>> support.amd.com/us/Embedded_TechDocs/47283.pdf
>>> i hope this helps a bit
>> 
>> A comment from a poster called 'AFireInside' on this same forum says AMD
>> confirms that 4 TB disks will work in the N40L Microserver:
>> 
>> http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?s=a97e85a928a1e6997245557220f4b729&t=1009531&page=2
>> 
>> 
>> Also, HP's own specifications confirm that this unit is suitable for 4 TB 
>> disks:
>> 
>> http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/13716_div/13716_div.html
>> 
>> A lot of the comments saying otherwise seem to relate to the earlier N36L 
>> model,
>> earlier BIOS versions and booting Windows from disks larger than 3.2 TB.
>> 
>> As for using Advanced Format disks with 4K sectors in ZFS pools, the worst 
>> case
>> scenario would be that these disks can be used in a backwards-compatible 
>> legacy
>> 512 byte sector format but with slower r/w performance. Also, Hitachi 
>> provide a
>> Windows utility to re-align 4k sectors on their drives although I'm not 
>> sure
>> whether this would suit OI/ZFS.
>> 
>> Finally, it looks like OI has some support for 4k sector disks:
>> 
>> http://wiki.openindiana.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4883847
>> 
>> and ZFS pools can be created with the 'zpool create block-size 4096 ...' 
>> option.
>> 
>> I'll take the plunge and order a N40L Microserver plus 3 x 4 TB disks and 
>> I'll
>> post my experiences here.
>> 
>> cheers, Andy
>> 
>>> On 04/28/2012 08:39 PM, Enrico wrote:
>>>> Hi roy,
>>>> yes, right, it was just to tell Andy what I've tested with this hp system 
>>>> and
>>>> OI. i think there are many people who have written in detail their 
>>>> experience
>>>> about supported hdd sizes in forums easily reachable just by googling 
>>>> n40l. let
>>>> me also correct what i've written before: the adaptec 1045/1405 are 
>>>> luckily
>>>> supported by the aac driver, despite what is written on the man page. the 
>>>> si3124
>>>> driver refers to a sata controller i've tested successfully on the pciex1 
>>>> slot.
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Enrico
>>>> 
>>>> On 04/28/2012 06:13 PM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
>>>>> It probably won't help much. Any SATA controller should recognize the 
>>>>> 4TB
>>>>> drives, and the problem with the drives lying about sector sizes won't 
>>>>> be any
>>>>> better whatever controller you use.
>>>>> 
>>>>> roy
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Opprinnelig melding -----
>>>>>> maybe this might help:
>>>>>> http://www.adaptec.com/en-us/products/controllers/hardware/sas/entry/asc-1045/
>>>>>> it is recognized on a n40l and it is supported by the si3124 driver
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 04/28/2012 09:54 AM, andy thomas wrote:
>>>>>>> For some time now I've successfully been using ZFS RAIDz pools made
>>>>>>> up of 3 x 1
>>>>>>> TB or 3 x 2 TB Western Digital Caviar Black disks in a HP
>>>>>>> MicroServer N36L
>>>>>>> running OI 148 or 151. I'm now thinking of using the newer HP N40L
>>>>>>> microserver
>>>>>>> with 3 x 4 TB disks (Hitachi DeskStart 7K4000) which have 4096 byte
>>>>>>> sectors. Can
>>>>>>> anyone foresee a problem with this?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I plan to set up several of these storage servers in mirrored pairs
>>>>>>> so I want to
>>>>>>> make sure this will work before ordering anything.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any comments or advice,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------
>>>>>>> Andy Thomas,
>>>>>>> Time Domain Systems
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tel: +44 (0)7866 556626
>>>>>>> Fax: +44 (0)20 8372 2582
>>>>>>> http://www.time-domain.co.uk
>>>>>> 
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