[OpenIndiana-discuss] Bash brace expansion in non-C locales??

[Marcel Telka]

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 09:04:43AM +0100, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:
> not such an easy thing then...
> 
> however. I suppose given a complete dictionary, a system could try
> splitting a word between c and h and see if the resulting subwords
> are in the dictionary. Hmm

Sometimes they might not be valid words, so no match in the dictionary.

But I think we shouldn't waste our time with this :-).
Who cares about a language actively used by ~5 mio people only?
Especially, when the problem is really a corner case in our language.

> On 2013-03-13 08:57, Marcel Telka wrote:
> >On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 08:01:16AM +0100, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:
> >>Can that confusion happen at the start of a word or only inside
> >>words?? And how many rulebreaking words are there, can they be
> >>enumerated??
> >It can happen only in the middle. Only in a case when the word is constructed
> >from two initially (semi-)separate words. In my example the word "viachlasný"
> >is "viac" + "hlasný" (it is something like multi+voice). It will happen always
> >when you combine a word ending by "c" with another word starting with "h". Such
> >combinations are not very often used in the language, but because they are
> >constructed as a combination of two words, you can construct a lot of such
> >words. The situation is even worse because those two (semi-)separate words used
> >for the construction might not exist as separate words in such form as it was
> >used for the construction.
> >
> >BTW, the problem is caused by a fact that our "ch" (the single letter) is
> >equivalent to Russian "X", with the exception that we do not have a single
> >character for it (we probably should have). AFAIK, Czech language is similar
> >with "ch" (it is a single letter too), but I am not sure whether there is an
> >example of a real word where "ch" are two letters.
> >
> >>On 2013-03-12 22:50, Sašo Kiselkov wrote:
> >>>On 03/12/2013 10:10 PM, Marcel Telka wrote:
> >>>>On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:02:27PM +0100, Sašo Kiselkov wrote:
> >>>>>I'm pretty sure nobody in bash development actually considers
> >>>>>locale-specific letter ordering rules. Language-specific idiosyncrasies
> >>>>>are a never ending stream of hurt and implementation problems (e.g. in
> >>>>>my language "ch" is supposed to be treated as a single letter for
> >>>>>sorting purposes).
> >>>>Interestingly, "ch" is not always a single letter. It depends on a word:
> >>>>"viachlasný" is an example of a word where "ch" are two letters...
> >>>>
> >>>>Yes, our language is Slovak.
> >>>Correct, that's another twisty-twist I forgot to mention. Slovak
> >>>sucks... (for computing)
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Saso
> 
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