[OpenIndiana-discuss] Tape backup

DormitionSkete@hotmail.com dormitionskete at hotmail.com
Sun Mar 17 23:26:28 UTC 2013


After the embezzlement debacle, and a couple of complete turnovers (except for me) of the IS staff, my (new) boss and I went to a class specifically about backups.  They were saying that not only do we need to keep your normal daily, weekly and monthly backups; we should also keep snapshots of our data for years upon years.

They were saying we should do this not only for financial data, but for any data, because you might have a disgruntled employee decide to monkey with your data, and it may take years upon years to discover it.  While it would most likely be significantly more difficult to restore that old data -- especially if the tampering were done to a database -- at least you would have some opportunity to recover your uncorrupted information.

Just food for thought.



On Mar 17, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Doug Hughes wrote:

> On 3/17/2013 6:23 PM, Reginald Beardsley wrote:
>> Tape as an archival medium has significant issues.  Reading poorly stored tapes is a "one try" proposition w/ no assurance of success.  The first high volume commercial application for digital tape was seismic data acquisition for the oil industry.  The oil companies had very detailed  cleaning and retensioning schedules w/ a large staff to perform them on the tape archives. Absent that level of care, reading old tapes is very difficult and requires great skill.  Old tape is NOT fun to work with.
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>> High capacity tape drives and tapes are not cheap either.  Blank LTO tape is almost as expensive as SATA disk. A ZFS based remote replicating server using triple parity RAIDZ is probably cheaper than tape.  For extremely large volumes and long archival periods, optical tape is probably the best choice.  But then you're probably working for the government.
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>> I would strongly urge comparing the cost of a ZFS backup server w/ daily snapshots to the cost of conventional tape backup. I think you'll be quite surprised at the implications.
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> reading old disks is a just as significant if not more of an issue, by my estimation. Try to find a machine that you can do low voltage differential disks with these days. That was only 15 years ago. what about SMD? The controllers keep changing over time. Also, after a disk has been in use for a significant period of time (say years), the lubrication on the platters tends to evaporate a little bit so that when you leave it off for a long period of time (days/weeks) it will stick to the heads and the platters. Tape doesn't have that issue.
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> An LTO5 tape is about $30 each, better in quantity. 1.5TB, more depending upon compression. That's an enterprise quality tape with much longer shelf life than a cheap deskstar disk if cared for properly. Even the cheap 1TB disks are $70. That's almost a 3X advantage. There's still a place for tape for archival, and yes, you do have to care for it properly, just like you have to care for everything else. But, cared for properly, tape should still outlive disk.
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> But, used it in its proper place. zfs snapshots make a lot of sense for online backups!
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