[OpenIndiana-discuss] Install OpenIndiana in an UFS root

wessels wessels147 at gmail.com
Mon Sep 9 19:29:05 UTC 2013


Yes, I've very specific use case for this. But it's all ZFS development
related. So I don't want any ZFS hacks messing up my root. Any suggestions
you could do that with OpenSolaris for example.

@Saso, I assume you have an UFS root for your ZFS related work? If not how
do you tinker with ZFS without blowing up your root?

So no cloud, nor memory considerations.


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Saso Kiselkov <skiselkov.ml at gmail.com>wrote:

> On 9/9/13 7:09 PM, Simon Toedt wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Peter Tribble <peter.tribble at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> topic says it all. I want to install OpenIndiana on a UFS filesystem. No
> >>> typo. I do not want to use ZFS on my boot disk. Can you choose what
> >>> filesystem you want to use for your root during installation?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Not on OpenIndiana, the whole of packaging etc essentially
> >> requires ZFS root - so the same limitation will likely apply to
> >> any distro using IPS.
> >>
> >> You can install Tribblix to ufs; I'm not aware of any other
> >> distro that offers it as an option. (You might have some joy
> >> with OpenSXCE, although that uses the same Caiman
> >> installer as OI so intercepting it might be tricky.)
> >>
> >> Seriously, though, I would love to know *why* you don't want
> >> to install to ZFS. I can think of several reasons myself (which is
> >> why I added the option to Tribblix) but this is quite a specialist
> >> area, so what's your use case?
> >
> > Running with less memory maybe? ZFS has a well-deserved reputation for
> > being memory hungry, something which keeps Solaris and Illumos out of
> > the cloud business - as the Amazon sales people say you can have six
> > Linux VMs with ext4fs for one Solaris VM with ZFS in the same memory
> > footprint.
>
> If you're planning to run on Illumos-derived OSes in the cloud,
> seriously, go to a cloud provider who gives you zones. Much less
> overhead with much higher performance at the same price point.
>
> --
> Saso
>
>
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