[OpenIndiana-discuss] Install OpenIndiana in an UFS root

Rennie Allen rennieallen at gmail.com
Mon Sep 9 19:42:46 UTC 2013


Yup, that definitely sounds like Amazonian FUD alrightŠ


On 9/9/13 12:32 PM, "Richard Elling" <richard.elling at richardelling.com>
wrote:

>On Sep 9, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Simon Toedt <simon.toedt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Peter Tribble <peter.tribble at gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> topic says it all. I want to install OpenIndiana on a UFS filesystem.
>>>No
>>>> typo. I do not want to use ZFS on my boot disk. Can you choose what
>>>> filesystem you want to use for your root during installation?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Not on OpenIndiana, the whole of packaging etc essentially
>>> requires ZFS root - so the same limitation will likely apply to
>>> any distro using IPS.
>>> 
>>> You can install Tribblix to ufs; I'm not aware of any other
>>> distro that offers it as an option. (You might have some joy
>>> with OpenSXCE, although that uses the same Caiman
>>> installer as OI so intercepting it might be tricky.)
>>> 
>>> Seriously, though, I would love to know *why* you don't want
>>> to install to ZFS. I can think of several reasons myself (which is
>>> why I added the option to Tribblix) but this is quite a specialist
>>> area, so what's your use case?
>> 
>> Running with less memory maybe? ZFS has a well-deserved reputation for
>> being memory hungry, something which keeps Solaris and Illumos out of
>> the cloud business - as the Amazon sales people say you can have six
>> Linux VMs with ext4fs for one Solaris VM with ZFS in the same memory
>> footprint.
>
>Sounds like FUD from a Joyent competitor. Memory is used for cache in both
>cases, so ext4 obviously does a worse job caching than ZFS.
> -- richard
>
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