[OpenIndiana-discuss] Low low end server

alka alka at hfg-gmuend.de
Fri Feb 7 21:08:43 UTC 2014


For me my data at home are as valuable like my data at work
and undetected RAM problems are the most probable way to loose 
or change data without a warning from ZFS. 

But ZFS without ECC  can detect much more problems without ECC
than filesystems without integrated checksums but with ECC.

Main argument for ECC is the minimal premium.
Why do you want to avoid ECC?



Am 07.02.2014 um 20:54 schrieb Robbie Crash:

> For a home job, is there really any reason to use ECC RAM?
> 
> Like, real world I mean. Not "Realistically all servers should use ECC RAM
> to protect the sanctity of the harmonious existence of all data from
> interloping cosmic radiation" or whatever, but real world justification?
> 
> With ZFS checksumming, isn't the likelihood of data corruption due to
> flipped RAM bits small enough to offset the cost difference for /home/ use?
> ZFS was built to handle RAM errors, wasn't it?
> 
> I'm running an i3 21020T, 32GB of normal non-ECC RAM, 4WD Green 2TBs and 4
> WD Black 1TBs each in RAIDZ, with a pool that I've filled and emptied twice
> in the last few years, and aside from when a hdd froze last winter I've had
> zero reported errors in my data and the only performance bottleneck is my
> network speed.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Johan Hertz <jhz.mailgroups at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I just setup a Dell PowerEdge T20 using Smart OS  and it works just fine.
>> It start at 2199kr (not including VAT) so it is a cheap server too. I went
>> for the Xeon E3 processor which is a bit more expensive but you might be ok
>> with the cheaper options.
>> 
>> Here's the link
>> http://www.dell.com/se/foretag/p/poweredge-t20/pd?~ck=anav
>> 
>> Regards
>> Johan
>> 
>> 
>> On 2014-02-07 18:55, Reginald Beardsley wrote:
>> 
>>> I have an N40L configured w/ 4 x 2 TB disks and 8 GB of ECC DRAM.  The
>>> disks have two partitions each.   A small one for a 4 way mirrored root
>>> pool and a large one for data using double parity RAIDZ.  It's a bit of
>>> extra work to configure, but works very nicely giving 100+ MB/s disk I/O.
>>> (179 MB/s 4 disk RAIDZ1, 109 MB/s RAIDZ2).  An N54L should do better.
>>> 
>>> The trick is to install  OI to a small partition on a single disk.  Then
>>> partition the other disks, mirror the root pool, detach the first disk,
>>> repartition it and  add it to the mirror.  Then form the RAIDZ on the rest
>>> of the disk.  Technically it's not bootable RAIDZ, but it's close enough
>>> for me.
>>> 
>>> Have Fun!
>>> Reg
>>> 
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> On Fri, 2/7/14, Hans J. Albertsson <hans.j.albertsson at branneriet.se>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Low low end server
>>>  To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" <openindiana-discuss@
>>> openindiana.org>
>>>  Date: Friday, February 7, 2014, 10:50 AM
>>>    I looked at a HP N54L today: Costs
>>>  nothing, but actually handles ECC memory. Albeit very slow
>>>  memory, and not very much.
>>>    So, would it be reasonable to set this guy up with 4 2TB
>>>  SATA disks, 8GB 800MHz ECC memory and run some Illumos based
>>>  version with ZFS.
>>>    I was thinking of putting two 2.5" small boot disks
>>>  (300GB???) using some adapter in the optical drive slot, and
>>>  4 2TB disks in a raidz to provide 6TB of storage with medium
>>>  availability performance.
>>>    Would this work?? Would the performance be good enough to be
>>>  a home cloud server for media and/or documents?
>>>    Is Nexenta or OmniOS or SMARTOS better or easier to deply
>>>  than OpenIndiana for this setup?
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