[OpenIndiana-discuss] No longer using OI Desktop

[Jonathan Adams]

I wasn't going to add to this discussion, otherwise I might sound bitter
when in fact I'm more disappointed with myself, and the fact I've chosen
the "easy" option...

FYI I still have OI in a virtualbox, but no longer run it as my GUI or even
every day.

I know I'm a coder, and should help write drivers, but my driver writing
experience is 16 years ago on an old Linux SCSI driver, and that was more
of a code chasing exercise. I don't even write in C any more, mostly
PL/SQL, perl and ruby. Unlike 16 years ago, I'm now a dad of 3, one
autistic, and I have very little spare time when not in the office.

I felt the best way to help the "community" was to _use_ OI on a daily
basis, report back issues and potential work arounds (915resolution being
one of them), and to help on the discussion boards when people asked
questions I felt I could answer.

This thread wasn't a complaint about the work you guys do, and I do hope
you continue to do it, more a comment on the fact that I felt I couldn't
continue to work for my employers using OI as my primary desktop because it
currently isn't fit for purpose.  I was under a lot of pressure from the
other coders to get in line with Ubuntu, like they use, and I could no
longer justify staying with it as my GUI, even if I can still run it on my
servers.

Jon
On 8 Jun 2015 19:34, "David Brodbeck" <brodbd at uw.edu> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Apostolos Syropoulos via
> openindiana-discuss <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org> wrote:
>
> > The real problem is that OI has no community---just people who contribute
> > almost nothing (of course there are brilliant exceptions...) and who are
> > always critical about this and about that.
>
>
> I think partly this is because there's a very high barrier to entry.  For
> example, last I heard building the complete system from source still
> required access to a closed-source, non-publicly-available compiler.
> Documentation is scattered and much of it is out of date. I can see why a
> new user, even one with coding experience, wouldn't want to wade into
> that.  The situation is slowly improving, but it's starting from a culture
> where builds were handed down from an elite few, and that takes time to
> change.  (Partly this is also a difference between the "cathedral" model
> vs. the "bazaar" model.  A lot of what makes OI and FreeBSD attractive in
> terms of consistency and stability comes from the cathedral model, which
> also tends to result in slower development.)
>
>
> > As about the drivers, why don't you work on the new driver?
>
>
> Kernel drivers are a pretty esoteric area in any OS, and doubly so in OI.
> I don't think there have been very many community changes to the drivers
> handed down from Oracle.
>
> --
> D. Brodbeck
> System Administrator, Linguistics
> University of Washington
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