From pulaskite at yahoo.com Sun Jun 1 00:46:13 2025 From: pulaskite at yahoo.com (Reginald Beardsley) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2025 00:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] =?utf-8?b?zqPPh861z4Q6ICBDb25maWd1cmluZyBC?= =?utf-8?q?rother_MFC-7360N_on_Hipster_How=3F?= In-Reply-To: <808062083.1914738.1748729742284@mail.yahoo.com> References: <24758064.3542055.1748726934112.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <24758064.3542055.1748726934112@mail.yahoo.com> <808062083.1914738.1748729742284@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1781793774.3574942.1748738773057@mail.yahoo.com> Apostolos. Thanks. I'll give that a try. *IF* it works, it will be the first time in my experience AI actually has produced useful results. I have a 30+ year history with hidden layer neural nets and have always had nothing but contempt for them. Going back to an early '80s DARPA project to identify armored vehicles in foliage. It was spectacularly successful. At recognizing cloudy days! The trainers didn't notice the contrast difference, but the neural net did. A friend reports that he is seeing AI generated sections of WSJ articles. English speakers would never use the phrasing generated. I am so sick of people renaming stuff it makes me apoplectic. My usual initial question about something "new" is what have they devised a new name for? It's very rare I find anything new except the name and some minor enhancement. My favorite recent AI result was the summer reading list of books that did not exist. Real authors, but 3/4 fake titles and synopses. Only topped by images of Negro English aristocrats. What happens when the history books are AI generated? Next favorite is the lawyer who submitted a brief containing non-existent legal precedents. Judge was seriously not happy. Have Fun! Reg On Saturday, May 31, 2025 at 05:16:05 PM CDT, Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss wrote: Google AI says that A .deb file is a software package format used by the Debian Linux distribution and its derivatives, including Ubuntu and Linux Mint. It's a standard Unix archive containing two gzipped or bzipped tar archives: one for control information (metadata) and another for the actual data to be installed. Yahoo Mail: ??????????, ???????????, ???????? ? ???? ???, 1 ????, 2025 ???? 12:29 ?.?., ? ???????Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss ??????:? Brother provides .rpm and .deb files for the printer which is attached via wired ethernet. The OI printer database doesn't include a driver.? Brother only offers .rpm and .deb files for Linux and then various files for MacOS X by release. Is there an OI native way to extract the PPD from a .rpm or .deb file and install it on Hipster 2024.10? Reg _______________________________________________ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ? _______________________________________________ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss From Tim.Mooney at ndsu.edu Sun Jun 1 03:06:56 2025 From: Tim.Mooney at ndsu.edu (Tim Mooney) Date: Sat, 31 May 2025 22:06:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Configuring Brother MFC-7360N on Hipster How? In-Reply-To: <24758064.3542055.1748726934112@mail.yahoo.com> References: <24758064.3542055.1748726934112.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <24758064.3542055.1748726934112@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: In regard to: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Configuring Brother MFC-7360N on...: > Is there an OI native way to extract the PPD from a .rpm or .deb file > and install it on Hipster 2024.10? rpms are just cpio archives with some additional signing stuffed inside. If you can find a script named "rpm2cpio" (it's a shell script), it will run on OI. If you can't find a copy let me know, I can send you the one I have. Something like: rpm2cpio file.rpm | cpio -idv should extract all the file contents. Tim -- Tim Mooney Tim.Mooney at ndsu.edu Enterprise Computing & Infrastructure / Division of Information Technology / 701-231-1076 (Voice) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105-5164 From pjfloyd at wanadoo.fr Sun Jun 1 05:47:51 2025 From: pjfloyd at wanadoo.fr (Paul Floyd) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2025 07:47:51 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Graphics card support In-Reply-To: <566349778.1888807.1748714289938@mail.yahoo.com> References: <030d5575-2a3f-4758-9ccb-a4ffd3117f18@willows7.myzen.co.uk> <153b5a37-4d14-4af8-99e5-76ae96fc9c6d@wanadoo.fr> <566349778.1888807.1748714289938@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0eb707f5-8a48-436b-b617-2095e7569ff0@wanadoo.fr> On 5/31/25 19:58, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote: > Hello, > > I am using a NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 > which works just fine with NVIDIA Driver Version > 470.256.02 > The problem is that working with A GT 1030 card is not the same as working with ALL GT 1030 cards. Cards get different revisions and PCI IDs. A few months ago I tried all of the nvida drivers with a card that reports as nvidia0: on vgapci0 vgapci0 at pci0:1:0:0:class=0x030000 rev=0xa1 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x10de device=0x1d01 subvendor=0x1462 subdevice=0x8c98 on FreeBSD, and none of the drivers worked. A+ Paul From groenveld at acm.org Sun Jun 1 08:05:30 2025 From: groenveld at acm.org (John D Groenveld) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2025 04:05:30 -0400 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Configuring Brother MFC-7360N on Hipster How? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 31 May 2025 22:06:56 -0500." References: <24758064.3542055.1748726934112.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <24758064.3542055.1748726934112@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4b98fh5CJbzm0ySb@004.mia.mailroute.net> In message , Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss writes: >If you can find a script named "rpm2cpio" (it's a shell script), it will >run on OI. If you can't find a copy let me know, I can send you the >one I have. >Something like: > > rpm2cpio file.rpm | cpio -idv > >should extract all the file contents. Almost certainly includes a Linux binary for the CUPS filter. However, ISTR the source for it on one of the myriad of Brother websites. There's also a FOSS CUPS filter: Step 1: Update the printer firmware. Step 2: cat(1)/nc(1) some text to the printer. Step 3. cat(1)/nc(1) some PostScript or PDF to the printer. Step 4. Get the CUPS filter built. Step 5. Configure CUPS. John groenveld at acm.org From aaronhewitt at fastmail.co.uk Sun Jun 1 12:35:58 2025 From: aaronhewitt at fastmail.co.uk (Aaron Hewitt) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2025 13:35:58 +0100 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Accessibility of OpenIndiana with Screen Readers and Other Assistive Technology Message-ID: <163ef334-3257-4a5f-9811-a935ba07b022@app.fastmail.com> Hello, I've been a long-time Linux user. Recently, I have been considering the switch to OpenIndiana. I checked the OpenIndiana package repository and found that Orca, the screen reader I use under Linux, is available. What I could not find, however, was any reference to a console-based Screen Reader. Does such a thing exist for OpenIndiana, for the cases where a graphical session is not functional or not required? Best regards, Aaron. From rlhamil at smart.net Sun Jun 1 13:27:18 2025 From: rlhamil at smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2025 09:27:18 -0400 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Accessibility of OpenIndiana with Screen Readers and Other Assistive Technology In-Reply-To: <163ef334-3257-4a5f-9811-a935ba07b022@app.fastmail.com> References: <163ef334-3257-4a5f-9811-a935ba07b022@app.fastmail.com> Message-ID: <710C6312-83E0-4356-B66A-8F08AC86923D@smart.net> If speech-dispatcher is available (some things I've read says orca uses it), then TDSR https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr (which is in Python 3) perhaps could be as well. Presumably TDSR isn't already packaged for OpenIndiana, but if speech-dispatcher is available, that shouldn't be too difficult for someone into packaging. This is JUST the result of a few minutes googling. I have no idea of the feasibility or utility of the possible result. I've never needed such things for myself nor been required to be part of providing accessibility support for others beyond voluntarily researching relevant (Windows or macOS) builtin features for acquaintances that couldn't figure it out for themselves. I usually sit at macOS these days although I have Solaris, Windows, assorted Linux, and other OSs at least occasionally running at home; and the only accessibility feature I use is macOS screen zoom sometimes, since I'm somewhat nearsighted but no longer focus really close either, so I usually use the computer without glasses as a compromise. > On Jun 1, 2025, at 08:35, Aaron Hewitt wrote: > > Hello, > > I've been a long-time Linux user. > > Recently, I have been considering the switch to OpenIndiana. > > I checked the OpenIndiana package repository and found that Orca, the screen reader I use under Linux, is available. > > What I could not find, however, was any reference to a console-based Screen Reader. > > Does such a thing exist for OpenIndiana, for the cases where a graphical session is not functional or not required? > > Best regards, > Aaron. > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > From benny.lyons at gmx.net Sun Jun 1 14:14:21 2025 From: benny.lyons at gmx.net (benn) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2025 16:14:21 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Configuring Brother MFC-7360N on Hipster How? In-Reply-To: <24758064.3542055.1748726934112@mail.yahoo.com> References: <24758064.3542055.1748726934112.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <24758064.3542055.1748726934112@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44c30ed7c5e6b524a9ba4f26ca0b961622d97831.camel@gmx.net> On Sat, 2025-05-31 at 21:28 +0000, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana- discuss wrote: > Brother provides .rpm and .deb files for the printer which is > attached via wired ethernet. > The OI printer database doesn't include a driver.? Brother only > offers .rpm and .deb files for Linux and then various files for MacOS > X by release. > > Is there an OI native way to extract the PPD from a .rpm or .deb > file... If you've got access to Debian, then 'dpkg' is probably easiest: # Retrieve the relevant Debian package, e.g., whatever.deb, using wget, curl, ... # List all individual files ending in '.ppd' > dpkg -c whatever.deb | grep -o '\w*\.svg\b' ... If you do not have access to dpkg, i.e., on OI, then you can process Debian packages using 'ar', as a Debian package is simply a Unix archive, so 'ar' on any Unix machine should do. However, a Debian package contains compressed tar files, one of which contains the files that would be listed above using dpkg -c: # List contents of whatever.deb > ar tvf whatever.deb Lists a couple of archive files whatever.tar.xz, ... Now, one of these compressed tar files is what you require. So, do something like this (using ar and tar): # extract Debain package > ar xvf whatever.deb # list and find *.ppd > tar tvf something1.tar.xx | grep -o '\w*\.svg\b' # If this file contains *ppd files, then extract > tar xvf something1.tar.xx # Otherwise try the other archive until you obtain your *ppd files > ... and install it on Hipster 2024.10? 'There's the rub'.? Obtaining the *.ppd files is the easy part. To my experience, you would have to produce an OI package, well, actually a component, as OI doesn't really have packages, and publish your component to hipster or wherever. One possible route to success, I assume, would be to look under oi-userland/components for some other component that contains *ppd files. Then use that as a template to create your own component. Beware, I have not tested any of the aforementioned; and there might be other way. > Reg > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss Benn openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss From aaronhewitt at fastmail.co.uk Sun Jun 1 14:40:57 2025 From: aaronhewitt at fastmail.co.uk (Aaron Hewitt) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2025 15:40:57 +0100 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Accessibility of OpenIndiana with Screen Readers and Other Assistive Technology In-Reply-To: <710C6312-83E0-4356-B66A-8F08AC86923D@smart.net> References: <163ef334-3257-4a5f-9811-a935ba07b022@app.fastmail.com> <710C6312-83E0-4356-B66A-8F08AC86923D@smart.net> Message-ID: it looks like this should work, thanks. I need to figure out a way to install with accessibility; the live image uses the MATE desktop I was told so this should be possible. On 01/06/2025 14:27, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > If speech-dispatcher is available (some things I've read says orca uses it), then TDSR https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr (which is in Python 3) perhaps could be as well. Presumably TDSR isn't already packaged for OpenIndiana, but if speech-dispatcher is available, that shouldn't be too difficult for someone into packaging. > > This is JUST the result of a few minutes googling. I have no idea of the feasibility or utility of the possible result. I've never needed such things for myself nor been required to be part of providing accessibility support for others beyond voluntarily researching relevant (Windows or macOS) builtin features for acquaintances that couldn't figure it out for themselves. I usually sit at macOS these days although I have Solaris, Windows, assorted Linux, and other OSs at least occasionally running at home; and the only accessibility feature I use is macOS screen zoom sometimes, since I'm somewhat nearsighted but no longer focus really close either, so I usually use the computer without glasses as a compromise. > >> On Jun 1, 2025, at 08:35, Aaron Hewitt wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I've been a long-time Linux user. >> >> Recently, I have been considering the switch to OpenIndiana. >> >> I checked the OpenIndiana package repository and found that Orca, the screen reader I use under Linux, is available. >> >> What I could not find, however, was any reference to a console-based Screen Reader. >> >> Does such a thing exist for OpenIndiana, for the cases where a graphical session is not functional or not required? >> >> Best regards, >> Aaron. >> _______________________________________________ >> openindiana-discuss mailing list >> openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org >> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss >> > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss From Stephan.Althaus at Duedinghausen.eu Mon Jun 2 15:06:56 2025 From: Stephan.Althaus at Duedinghausen.eu (Stephan Althaus) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2025 17:06:56 +0200 Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] TiMidity++ "byte order miss configured" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12a9f262-8613-4af0-9221-cc5d4847780d@Duedinghausen.eu> On 5/31/25 11:21, Stephan Althaus via openindiana-discuss wrote: > On 5/31/25 04:03, Garrett Fuller wrote: >> Greetings everyone, >> >> After updating to the latest version of OpenIndiana Hipster last >> month, TiMidity++ has been giving me an error message when trying to >> render MIDI files. It will say "Byte order is miss configured." >> anytime I try to play or export a known-good MIDI file that worked >> before the 2025.04 snapshot. >> >> I have an entire library of 200+ MIDI files that rendered just fine >> in previous versions of OI. Now, those same files throw the byte >> order error when trying to play them. >> >> I tried running a system update (pfexec pkg update) but the issue >> persists. Any ideas on a solution? Frustrating since one of the key >> functions of my OpenIndiana machine is to render MIDI files in >> TiMidity++. Any help would be greatly appreciated! >> > Hello! > > I can confirm this issue. > > That last update of this package was March, 19. > > Alas, I have no clue.. > > Regards, > Stephan > > > > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss Hello! This issue has been resolved in the meantime (not me). Please update. pkg update Regards, Stephan