[oi-dev] Resignation as OI Lead

[PÁSZTOR György]

Hello Alasdair,

"Alasdair Lumsden" <alasdairrr at gmail.com> írta 2012-08-29 02:18-kor:
> It is with much sadness that I hereby resign as project lead. I may, if 
> the situation improves under a new project lead, stick around to offer 
> my opinion or occasional assistance, but my resignation is final; I have 
> no wish to return to the project in a leadership capacity.

I'm sad about your decesion, but I hope, you think it again or at least
show us direction and sy continues your work as great as you did.

> But it is also in part due to frustrations with the difficulty of making 
> any progress on the project. OpenSolaris was maintained by a large 

I always say to my collegues that: Don't fix sg. which already works!

> I lay the blame of this squarely on the lack of a successful general 
> purpose distribution of Solaris/Illumos. OpenIndiana was my attempt at 
> competing with the Linux distros, but our lack of progress has torpedoed 
> it. Nobody in their right mind would use OI - it ships severely out of 
> date insecure software, lacks some of the most common 3rd party apps 
> such as LibreOffice, and so much simple shit that should just work, such 

I think you see a glass half empty. But that glass is almost full, from
another point of view: Every Server thing I ever tried on OI is works, and
do it's work more stable than the competing linux varinats.
Eg. Storage platform: And I'm not talking about ZFS and the advantages of
it, but if you want to implement a storage server on Linux You will suck.
Suck with the incompatible implementations of iSCSI targets. (And at least
all of them is a piece of shit...)
That you cannot resize a lun on the fly. All off them sucks by design.
On OI you just install comstar, and it just works. I think there is a
difference on quality beetween the two approach: Design first than
implement (like in OI) and do sg. which seems sign of work, then hack
it...
Let's see OS level virtualization: On linux there is vserver, openvz, lxc,
and who knows what else, with different feature sets. Except LXC all off
them is a separate patch. With huge warnings of it's lack of official / out
of box support even in distros like Debian...
On OI there are zones. Well designed, and simply just works. Again.
I could continue, but I hope You see my point.

> With the ZFSOnLinux port becoming increasingly popular (so many of the 
> Linux users I know are using it), and 
> brtfs/dtrace-on-linux/upstart/whatever else slowly brewing away, even 
> some of the core features of Illumos are becoming less and less 

Maybe it's popular. I use (and administer) linux since '96...
It's many time. But now, I would never even try a linux (or bsd) zfs
implementation, without comstar and the related things I get from OI
which is more robust in any beta/alfa/any version of OI, than in a
mega-hiper-stable-patched-r<many> release of any linux.

> - what matters is perception and the typical Linux user is happy with 
> "good enough". When I encourage my Linux-using friends to try OI they 
> laugh in my face. OI and Illumos to them is a dead platform. Add to that 
> our increasingly out of date and poor hardware support due to the march 
> of never ending new LAN/SATA/SAS/motherboard/GPU chipsets and you start 
> to get the picture.

With time and wisdom any linux user bore in the hacks, workarounds and
other time wasting things, and wants a system which just works.
I don't remember where I see the logo, if it was a late (realy open)
OpenSoleris or it was on the OpenIndiana boot screen but that phrase is
very true: Love at first boot!

> Finally, I wish Illumos every success. Ultimately Illumos is what 
> matters, OI was only ever going to be a vessel for delivering it's power 
> to end users. May it go from strength to strength and get the 
> recognition, attention and user-base it so rightly deserves.

+1

With many thanks for your work,
György Pásztor, end user/sysadmin.