[oi-dev] INTEL, IA32, i80686, AMD64 *is* *well* *supported* by OpenSXCE: Some run it on theit Netbook! - OR: The ability to read a text and absorb information

G B g_patrickb at yahoo.com
Sat Jun 8 23:16:38 UTC 2013


Forwarded as asked by Martin.



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 From: Martin Bochnig <martin at martux.org>
To: G B <g_patrickb at yahoo.com> 
Cc: OpenIndiana Developer mailing list <oi-dev at openindiana.org>; Discussion list for OpenIndiana <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org>; "developer at lists.illumos.org" <developer at lists.illumos.org>; "discuss at lists.illumos.org" <discuss at lists.illumos.org> 
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [oi-dev] INTEL, IA32, i80686, AMD64 *is* *well* *supported* by OpenSXCE: Some run it on theit Netbook! - OR: The ability to read a text and absorb information
 


Hello.

DE for Germany is also missing, if it relieves you.
Russian and Ukrainian support is there, but incomplete.
It is a bug due to time pressure. I did not get everything from G11N compiled.
I will explain the reasons in an extra blog entry.

I have some very good friends in the U.S., and my criticism is directed against the military industrial complex, exactly not against all citizens.

After you asked such a hot topic in a reply-all to many lists that I can no longer post to, I would politely ask you for help please, to forward my response if possible unquoted (for better readability) in a reply all.


Thank you.

%martin bochnig


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On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 12:51 AM, G B <g_patrickb at yahoo.com> wrote:

I downloaded and went to install OpenSXCE and chose not to proceed when I was prompted with the language.  Being from the United States of America I selected English, but there was no option for US, but there was Canada, New Zealand, Britain, Australia, and maybe another I'm missing.  If this was an oversight on your behalf, then my apologies, but if it was intentional because of your dislike of the USA for some personal reason, then I'm not going to bother with your operating system.
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>I served in the US Air Force, my uncle was a navigator on a B-52 during Vietnam, my mother's husband was in the US Air Force in Vietnam, my grandfather was in the US Army in the Pacific during WWII, another uncle served 30 years in the US State Dept.  A good friend of mine served in the US Navy in Vietnam.  You see, my blood doesn't bleed red, it bleeds Red, White, & Blue.  
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>Your largest user base would likely be the USA, but by neglecting to add the country to the language during installation it seems you are making a statement, and so am I.  I refuse to use it.  If you add the USA then I may look at it, but won't go out of my way.  As I said before, if this was just an oversight then you have my apologies.  Otherwise, good luck with your endeavor.
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> From: Martin Bochnig <martin at martux.org>
>To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org>; OpenIndiana Developer mailing list <oi-dev at openindiana.org>; developer at lists.illumos.org; discuss at lists.illumos.org; Martin Bochnig <martin at martux.org> 
>Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 11:26 AM
>Subject: [oi-dev] INTEL, IA32, i80686, AMD64 *is* *well* *supported* by OpenSXCE: Some run it on theit Netbook! - OR: The ability to read a text and absorb information
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>Unfortunately I was forced to re-join and then re-unsubscribe to finally debunk some neverdying MYTHS.
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>INTEL, IA32, i80686, AMD64 *is* *well* *supported* by OpenSXCE: Some run it on theit Netbook! -  
>OR: The ability to read a text and absorb information
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>I followed the discussion from the archives at http://openindiana.org/pipermail/openindiana-discuss/2013-June/date.html and I'm shocked about all the nonsense that people can claim uncorrected, about what OpenSXCE is all about.
>I have always re-iterated all these technical aspects over and over again, when I was still on the Illumos and OI lists.
>To me it looks as if few ever read even the subject line.
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>I also wrote all this to twitter.com/martinbochnig, twitter.com/opensxce, facebook.com/opensxce, facebook.com/martinbochnig, OpenSXCE's blog http://opensxce.blogspot.de/ as well as to contributors in probably hundreds of private messages and skype calls, plus google chats.
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>It is a real mystery, why such NONSENSE can be claimed days-long without being corrected by or understood by the majority (BIG THANKS TO THE GOOD SOULS, who tried it) :
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>OpenSXCE is SPARC-only: WRONG
>OpenSXCE is not based on Illumos: WRONG
>OpenSXCE will in the future not (indirektly) be based on Illumos modified OS/Net: WRONG
>OpenSXCE is Desktop-only: WRONG
>OpenSXCE is instable crap: WRONG
>OpenSXCE has "no users": WRONG
>Igor's DilOS.org OS/Net doesn't update itself to incorporate always the most recent stuff from Illumos (except where he has implemented things better, as you can read on his site or my blog) : WRONG
>MartinBochnig never works together with others: WRONG
>MartinBochnig never writes technical details to these technical lists: WRONG
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>See my the OpenSXCE Blog, for example:
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>OH “DilOS brings in the waffle cones” - Ken Mays / PLUS: *Hypocrisy*
>http://opensxce.blogspot.de/2013/06/oh-dilos-brings-in-waffle-cones-ken.html
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>DilOS-OS/Net: The more I learn from and about Igor, the more I have to 
wonder why nobody ever put attention to him! But: He avoids fights.
>He rather writes code, code, code
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>http://opensxce.blogspot.de/2013/06/dilos-osnet-more-i-learn-from-and-about.html
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>Will you ever notice, that x86/x64 is also supported?
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>what OpenSXCE actually is about: IA32, AMD64, sun4u, sun4v.
>You and everybody could read this from the beginning on (in bold letters: *COULD*).
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>[OpenIndiana-discuss] A potential new Illumos reference distro candidate: IA32, AMD64, sun4u, sun4vhttp://openindiana.org/pipermail/openindiana-discuss/2012-December/010922.html
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>I do not bitch around because "nobody uses my distro", because - believe it or not: That's not the case.
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 simply think, that if somebody talks about me or my work, he should at 
least have a clue, what he is talking about. And YES: I guess I do have 
this humble right, as anybody has and should have.
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>If you (most at OI and Illumos) never read what I write, maybe it is easier to watch my x86 screenshots:
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>http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157633874850547/
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>To avoid ambiguity I should add: Although these pkgutil'ified SVR4 pkgs 
can sit on any filesystem anf can be installed via file:// without 
httpd, by default every user gets them from the cloud:
>http://svr4.opensxce.org/i386/5.11/
>What do you say now?
>It works like IPS, only 3 times as quickly, plus without all these bugs, constraints and design flaws.
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>OpenSXCE 2013.05 x86 && x64 Screenshots  
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>http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157633874850547/
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>Main Home (thanks to Ken Mays!) :      http://opensxce.org/
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>http://svr4.opensxce.org/i386/5.11/
>http://svr4.opensxce.org/sparc/5.11/
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>BLOG: http://opensxce.blogspot.de/
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>OpenSXCE's benefits 
of using DilOS.org's OS/Net over vanilla Illumos, as explained to us by 
DilOS inventor, author and maintainer Igor Kozhukhov: 
>http://opensxce.blogspot.de/2013/06/opensxces-benefits-of-using-dilosorgs.html
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>A fair, open-minded discussion of the 3rd kind
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>http://opensxce.blogspot.de/2013/06/a-fair-open-minded-discussion-of-3rd.html
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>DilOS-OS/Net: The more I learn from and about Igor, the more I have to 
wonder why nobody ever put attention to him! But: He avoids fights.
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>He rather writes code, code, code
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>http://opensxce.blogspot.de/2013/06/dilos-osnet-more-i-learn-from-and-about.html
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>UNBELIEVABLE: Nobody at OI nor Illumos seems to have ever read enough to figure out, OpenSXCE also supports x86: http://opensxce.blogspot.de/2013/06/unbelievable-nobody-at-oi-nor-illumos.html
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>        http://www.youtube.com/user/MartUXopensolaris
>            https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig
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>And for the last time:
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>Some of you are that much deceitful and your words are that much full of 
hypocrisy, I wonder why only few notice this, or rather: Dare to speak 
it out. I have a lot of backers who say exactly the same, just not in 
public.
Look at my twitter acounts @martinbochnig and @opensxce. Only 2 
folks have unsubscribed, and these are the ones that I 
blocked unsubscribed myself first.
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>To avoid ambiguity I should add: Although these pkgutil'ified SVR4 pkgs 
can sit on any filesystem anf can be installed via file:// without 
httpd, by default every user gets them from the cloud:
>http://svr4.opensxce.org/i386/5.11/
>What do you say now?
>It works like IPS, only 3 times as quickly, plus without all these bugs, constraints and design flaws.
>LBNL: One of the reasons, why it does not have as many users as it could have: NOBODY at Illumos ever made, nor intended to make any news 
release to the more influental news wire channels, such as El Reg. Much 
in contrast to the launch of OI in 2010.
>Nobody should confuse reason and result.
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>Also about somebody's "He's a talented fellow no doubt, but building a distro and maintaining a
kernel are not in the same league"": I won't post his private message, just 2 parts: "The development of OI and IPS is none of my concern. I'm not a distro engineer.". Now my Q: Let alone moral, what gives him the _technical_ expertise then, to write something like this to world?!
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>2nd part of his reply: "fuck you!"
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>And my response:  
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>Garrett is only interested in rescuing his struggeling biz.
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>You probably need a longer term perspective: It is hard if not 
impossible to monetize this "community". Earlier or later commercial 
involvement into OpenSolaris will have little chance of sustainability, 
amortization. Look into the future: In 5 or 10 or 20 years, none of 
these businesses will manage to survive in the extremely competitive 
LinUX/UNIX market any longer. All that will survive is the true 
community, compare it to *BSD.
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>And the true community, unaffilliatd from any commercial interests, may use something like OpenSXCE2018.08 then.
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>Anyways, Good to know  ...
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>Who is "bitching around"?????
>I never used insulting language even remotely as insulting as "2 different leagues" or just now "fuck you".
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>Well, and do you know: I prefer girls   ...
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>LBNL: One of the reasons, why it does not have as many users as it could have: NOBODY at Illumos ever made, nor intended to make any news 
release to the more influental news wire channels, such as El Reg. Much 
in contrast to the launch of OI in 2010.
>Nobody should confuse CAUSE and result.
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>respectfully and with full right disappointed 
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>%martin bochnig
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regards

%martin bochnig
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