[oi-dev] Effort focus

[bentahyr at chez.com]

Hi Aurélien,

I actually didn't meet this issue as I partially built MATE against GTK2.
I supposed I assumed that building something that looks like Gnome 2 would be easier on a platform that supports Gnome 2 already.
This was my first mistake.... learning wisdom is a long path.

These dependencies are related to GTK3, when I come back in September I'll try to set up a GTK3 build.
Then, I'll see what breaks.

Desktop wise, I was thinking would it be wiser to keep a close look to what the BSD guys are doing as they have the same issue than OI which is more and more dependencies on linux core features (systemd, udev, authentication/authorisation mechanism,... ).

Best regards.
Ben

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De: "Aurélien Larcher" <aurelien.larcher at gmail.com>
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Hello, 

Welcome Ben ! 
I also tried to build MATE but I encountered dependency issues immediately. 
atk 2.14 would be a first target [2] but requires also building a newer gobject-introspection and make sure that nothing breaks. 

Best regards 


Aurelien 


[1] http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/MATE+1.10+Sandbox 
[2] https://www.illumos.org/issues/6055 







On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:39 AM, < bentahyr at chez.com > wrote: 


Having GTK3 spec files are a good news. I'll focus on that then so we got a GTK3 to build on. 

I'll leave MATE aside for the moment as we have a working desktop. 
GTK3 will open more option to desktops alternative or application. 

Best regards. 
Franck 

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De: "Alexander Pyhalov" < alp at rsu.ru > 
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Cc: bentahyr at chez.com 
Envoyé: Lundi 27 Juillet 2015 17:17:09 
Objet: Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus 

bentahyr at chez.com писал 27.07.2015 07 :21: 
> Hi, 
> 
> I've been trying for the last 2 month to get some updates to OI in 
> particular Hipster. 
> I tried to update the DE by compiling MATE, then I tried to get an 
> alternative browser to work copnsidering the issue with Firefox and 
> started to compile Midori. 
> 
> Of course, MATE is a hell to compile as it is fragmented all over the 
> place with each modules having its on dependencies. But I reach an 
> interesting point where quite a lot of application were compile but 
> not the main modules (panel, ...) 
> 
> Midori is hard on dependencies as well (GTK+3 <- Glib <- automake,....) 
> 
> I have a very limited time to dedicate (and skills, I have to admit) 
> and would like to make the best out of it so I ask you. 
> Does it make sense to try to get MATE up and running to replace GNOME 
> 2, or get another type desktop, or keep the current one ? 
> Midori has already moved to GTK+3 and more and more applications are 
> designed on top of it, does it make sense to focus the effort on 
> building a functionnal GTK+3 on OI as a starting point ? 

Hi. 
I think that MATE would be a valuable thing, and it worth to try making 
it work, 
but you can underestimate the work wich is necessary to make it 
functional. 

What about GTK3, you can look at 
https://java.net/projects/solaris-desktop/sources/spec-files/ , 
it has base-specs/gtk3.spec, SUNWgtk3.spec and SUNWgtk3-engines.spec. 
They are a valuable starting point. Note, that I couldn't find when you 
can witch branches 
int web ui, perhaps you'll have to clone the repo and switch manually to 
gnome-2-30-s12 
branch to see the specs. 

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