[oi-dev] Effort focus

Mon Jul 27 22:09:18 UTC 2015

That doesn't seem right. Dconf itself doesn't need gtk3, although dconf-editor does.

Generally I've found those parts of MATE I've used to build fairly cleanly.

-Peter

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> On 27 Jul 2015, at 22:57, Aurélien Larcher <aurelien.larcher at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> OK, that is weird because altough I built part of MATE with GTK2, there is a dependency to dconf which requires GTK3.
> Maybe I missed some flag.
> Best 
> 
> Aurelien
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:38 PM, <bentahyr at chez.com> wrote:
>> Hi Aurélien,
>> 
>> I actually didn't meet this issue as I partially built MATE against GTK2.
>> I supposed I assumed that building something that looks like Gnome 2 would be easier on a platform that supports Gnome 2 already.
>> This was my first mistake.... learning wisdom is a long path.
>> 
>> These dependencies are related to GTK3, when I come back in September I'll try to set up a GTK3 build.
>> Then, I'll see what breaks.
>> 
>> Desktop wise, I was thinking would it be wiser to keep a close look to what the BSD guys are doing as they have the same issue than OI which is more and more dependencies on linux core features (systemd, udev, authentication/authorisation mechanism,... ).
>> 
>> Best regards.
>> Ben
>> 
>> ----- Mail original -----
>> De: "Aurélien Larcher" <aurelien.larcher at gmail.com>
>> À: "OpenIndiana Developer mailing list" <oi-dev at openindiana.org>
>> Envoyé: Mardi 28 Juillet 2015 02:20:24
>> Objet: Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Welcome Ben !
>> I also tried to build MATE but I encountered dependency issues immediately.
>> atk 2.14 would be a first target [2] but requires also building a newer gobject-introspection and make sure that nothing breaks.
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> 
>> Aurelien
>> 
>> 
>> [1] http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/MATE+1.10+Sandbox
>> [2] https://www.illumos.org/issues/6055
>> 
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>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:39 AM, < bentahyr at chez.com > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Having GTK3 spec files are a good news. I'll focus on that then so we got a GTK3 to build on.
>> 
>> I'll leave MATE aside for the moment as we have a working desktop.
>> GTK3 will open more option to desktops alternative or application.
>> 
>> Best regards.
>> Franck
>> 
>> ----- Mail original -----
>> De: "Alexander Pyhalov" < alp at rsu.ru >
>> À: "OpenIndiana Developer mailing list" < oi-dev at openindiana.org >
>> Cc: bentahyr at chez.com
>> Envoyé: Lundi 27 Juillet 2015 17:17:09
>> Objet: Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus
>> 
>> bentahyr at chez.com писал 27.07.2015 07 :21:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I've been trying for the last 2 month to get some updates to OI in
>> > particular Hipster.
>> > I tried to update the DE by compiling MATE, then I tried to get an
>> > alternative browser to work copnsidering the issue with Firefox and
>> > started to compile Midori.
>> >
>> > Of course, MATE is a hell to compile as it is fragmented all over the
>> > place with each modules having its on dependencies. But I reach an
>> > interesting point where quite a lot of application were compile but
>> > not the main modules (panel, ...)
>> >
>> > Midori is hard on dependencies as well (GTK+3 <- Glib <- automake,....)
>> >
>> > I have a very limited time to dedicate (and skills, I have to admit)
>> > and would like to make the best out of it so I ask you.
>> > Does it make sense to try to get MATE up and running to replace GNOME
>> > 2, or get another type desktop, or keep the current one ?
>> > Midori has already moved to GTK+3 and more and more applications are
>> > designed on top of it, does it make sense to focus the effort on
>> > building a functionnal GTK+3 on OI as a starting point ?
>> 
>> Hi.
>> I think that MATE would be a valuable thing, and it worth to try making
>> it work,
>> but you can underestimate the work wich is necessary to make it
>> functional.
>> 
>> What about GTK3, you can look at
>> https://java.net/projects/solaris-desktop/sources/spec-files/ ,
>> it has base-specs/gtk3.spec, SUNWgtk3.spec and SUNWgtk3-engines.spec.
>> They are a valuable starting point. Note, that I couldn't find when you
>> can witch branches
>> int web ui, perhaps you'll have to clone the repo and switch manually to
>> gnome-2-30-s12
>> branch to see the specs.
>> 
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>> System Administrator of Southern Federal University Computer Center
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