[oi-dev] [OpenIndiana-discuss] Moving on with postgresql

[Lou Picciano]

I myself should be getting (again, more) re-engaged in the build/update process for PostgreSQL…

I’ll wake up shortly.

Lou

> On Apr 18, 2021, at 6:07 AM, Andreas Wacknitz <A.Wacknitz at gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> Am 18.04.21 um 02:37 schrieb Austin Kim:
>> On Apr 17, 2021, at 7:22 PM, Till Wegmueller <toasterson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Gary
>>> 
>>> I use Postgres and extensions for all Applications I develop professionally and privately.
>>> 
>>> We use mostly 12 and upwards 13 being the standard and I am waiting for 14 to hit. The last Bugfix release for 9.5 was on 2021-02-11 so quite recently.
>>> 
>>> I would love to have 13 and modern 12 packaged, especially as we have a build server for them sponsored by the Oi community. So we know it builds even on current develop.
>>> 
>>> My preference for the record is to have 13, 12 and 11. Older ones should only be used for people still needing them. AWS only offers those in their offerings as well, so not many people will want 10 or older.
>>> 
>>> -Till
>>> 
>>> On 17.04.21 18:46, Gary Mills wrote:
>>>> OI currently has postgresql versions: 95 96 10 11 12 .  The OI
>>>> default, in shared-macros.mk, is 95 .  However, the postgresql
>>>> developers report that 95 is unsupported, but 13 is available and
>>>> supported.  Something has to change in OI to move forward with
>>>> postgresql.
>>>> Here are some actions that could be taken with OI.  We could change
>>>> the default version to 10.  I, myself, would prefer 11.  We could
>>>> obsolete 95.  I'd prefer obsoleting 95 and 96.  We could add version
>>>> 13, but only after 96 is obsoleted.  We should limit the number of
>>>> postgresql versions in OI, after all.  Finally, we could make no
>>>> obsoletions or additions, retaining even the unsupported 95.  Which
>>>> would you prefer?
>>>> I have not investigated two questions.  Perhaps you can tell me?  What
>>>> are the consequences of obsoleting 95?  What are the consequences of
>>>> the default change?
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Sorry for posting to this list as I’m only an OpenIndiana user, not a developer, but PostgreSQL is the DB I use most.
> This is perfectly fine.
> I just want to chime in here and say: You don't need to be a developer
> in order to get involved in OpenIndiana!
> Of course it is helpful to know some programming languages and build
> systems. But many for aspects you don't need to be a professional
> programmer.
> 
> At the moment we lack volunteers in almost all areas, even those not
> related to updating packages. Eg. we need people to enhance or update
> our documentation,
> we need testers and of course people who care for some packages.
> 
> Nobody started as an expert in any of these areas. I am willing to help
> people to get involved, eg. we can have video conferences where I can
> demonstrate and teach how to update packages.
> 
> Of course you need to devote some resources (time, build or test
> environment, ...). I can assure you that you will learn a lot about
> OpenIndiana, Solaris and other operating systems.
> And you will see some insanity related to software development,
> especially open source software development where projects make heavy
> changes (like change the build system) in minor or even micro releases.
> 
> Andreas
> 
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