[OpenIndiana-discuss] I figured this deserved a separate thread

[Allan E. Registos]

For Ubuntu, it is still worth for use on the desktop for me, if not I wouldn't use it. 
I did an install of Ubuntu with PlayOnLinux just to install MS Office in the office. 

The reason is peripheral support. For packages, they have backport repos 
if you want to install the latest apps w/o breaking the core. If you compile packages from obscure sources, of course there is dependency hell. 
Some ISV who have GNU/Linux packages on their software portfolio will often support Ubuntu along with 
RHEL than other GNU/Linux distros. 
... Now sorry if this qualify a troll :-) 






----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathan Evans" <ndickinson.evans at gmail.com> 
To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org> 
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2010 1:22:19 AM 
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] I figured this deserved a separate thread 

On 5 November 2010 13:05, Nikola M <minikola at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Christopher Chan wrote: 
> > Ubuntu is currently one big mess and their LTS release policies are 
> > laughable. Yeah, I have a stable version of Pidgin but it did not do 
> > Yahoo anymore on Hardy well before Lucid got released. 
> */Starting ubuntu part../ 
> 
> Hi, 
> I also used to use ubuntu Hardy and I used GetDeb.net software 
> repository for new software for LTS release. 
> But problem with that is that people maintaining GetDeb, also chaised 
> newest Ubuntu release, too, so it was just to pospone and extend 
> lifecycle of LTS with newer apps till next LTS. 
> 
> At the end, I ended up downloading .dsc tar.gz and diff.gz files for 
> newer packages from newer ubuntu releases and compiling it themselves. 
> And sometimes i coould satisfy dependencies (with also compiling newer 
> libraries from newer release etc) but at the end, it came to a halt 
> because ever newer apps nedded updates of some core libraries that 
> required.. OS update. So I basically got stuck to latest available app I 
> could compile as package. 
> Then there was PPA (personal package archives) with packages of newer 
> programs and if you ask them nicely, they were making packages, for 
> older LTS, too. 
> And Finally I started downloading and using .tar.gz compiled binary 
> programs from project sites and that was just about when new LTS came. 
> 
> */..Ending Ubuntu part/ 
> 
> So, About OpenIndiana/Illumos I can conclude this: 
> For desktop use it is better to have newer distribution/system, even if 
> it brings some instability on application level (update of newest 
> security-patched web browser, Office, mail client, etc) 
> but it is mostly important to have Core OS updated and security patched. 
> 

Instability in production is always a problem thats why some distributions 
release stable and unstable. 



> I measure quality of free software distribution, by that how much is it 
> able to use all newest app with no need to question Core OS update. 
> And I think that its binary compatibility, OpenSolaris Based 
> distributions have much better starting position for this matter, 
> providing community is big enough and continues to grow, for both 
> Server/CoreOS use and Desktop use with newest applications and 
> desktop/drivers. 
> 

Thats great on a desktop, and thats why server/desktop distributions should 
be separate. 

> 
> So As I understand Server user/CoreOS is function of usability, new 
> technologies and mainstream use for the things iluumos based 
> distributions and OpenIndiana are used. 
> Desktop use rely on CoreOS is usable and running and simly compose 
> itself of Newest packaging of applications, fine-tuning user experience 
> (Everyone wants to see how OS "looks like" graphically and those things 
> interesting for laptops. 
> So I think OpenIndiana is on right course. 
> 
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