[OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: "OpenIndiana" (part II)

[Gabriel de la Cruz]

Thanks Daniel,
probably emails are not so pleasant for reading what is not of interest.

Sorry if I am picky, I should had ignored the whole thing for the best.

BR

On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Daniel Kjar <dkjar at elmira.edu> wrote:
> Perhaps the problem is the mail-list way this is being discussed.  People
> feel that they 'need' to read these things since they are in their inbox.  I
> too don't see any reason to be impolite or tell people to stop discussing
> something simply because a person feels that everything is the best of all
> possible worlds.   It hurts no-one discussing this and you never know, maybe
> somebody has the best name ever hiding somewhere in the back of their minds.
>  Not saying openindiana (really, those of you that haven't been to Indiana
> should go there, the name wouldn't be so attractive to you then) isn't a
> good name, just that their might be something better out there.
>
> If this were a real online forum rather than a mail list with an online
> archive some of these issues of 'don't waste my time' would disappear.
>
> On 10/10/2010 09:31 AM, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote:
>>
>> Well, I told a few many times that I am ok with openindiana, and there
>> is no one trying to change anything we are just exchanging ideas an
>> trying to give some new perspectives to the thing. This is a basic
>> procedure in all creative process.  This has nothing to do about "my
>> distro as I like it" or "your distro as you like it".
>> Talking and exchange of opinions should happen out of this kind of
>> interventions.
>> What I don't understand is the completely protective attitude. As it
>> is counter productive to the project I highlight it, and as it is not
>> very polite, I highlight the subject as well.
>> If a group of people is bringing ideas on the table, a "could you
>> please stop" is not a proper answer.
>>
>> I have been involved in group collaborations for the last 15 years,
>> and to my experience, even if it is seen as childish, requesting to
>> stop that kind of attitude is best from the beginning. And talking
>> openly, and respecting others is best. Ending subjects kills many
>> things, therefore it is negative for the whole cause.
>>
>> BR
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Christopher Chan
>> <christopher.chan at bradbury.edu.hk>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Gabriel,
>>>
>>> Grow up. It is pretty clear that few are interested in seeing a name
>>> change
>>> and I personally like how OpenIndiana connects things back to the roots
>>> of
>>> Illumos. If you do not like it, you are free to start your own
>>> distribution
>>> and call it whatever you like.
>>>
>>> Now if you wanted to contribute packages, had good quality contributions
>>> and
>>> you are being excluded for some non-technical reason, then you would have
>>> a
>>> case. Just because James was a bit more direct than others does not mean
>>> he
>>> is trying to shut you up but is pointing out that this change name thing
>>> is
>>> concluded.
>>>
>>> Gabriel de la Cruz wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "OpenIndiana is part of the Illumos Foundation, and provides a true
>>>> open source community alternative to Solaris 11 and Solaris 11
>>>> Express, with an open development model and full community
>>>> participation."
>>>>
>>>> James, shutting up the mouth of others does not fit in that description.
>>>>
>>>> Just wanted to help, and expecting some basic politeness wasn't really
>>>> much to ask. Terms such as Open- or community don't really fit such an
>>>> attitude.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck
>>>> Gab
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Gabriel de la Cruz
>>>> <gabriel.delacruz at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, if please don't help. no help then.
>>>>> cheers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 2:59 PM, James O'Gorman<james at netinertia.co.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9 Oct 2010, at 17:07, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like as well other variations such as "Indiana CORE". That will
>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>> if we intend this distro to be the mother-ship distro, and we intend
>>>>>>> others to derive from it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Illumos is the "core". We are a distribution of Illumos. Other
>>>>>> distributions should also be derived from Illumos, not from us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can we drop all these name discussions now, please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James
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