[OpenIndiana-discuss] XEN and Crossbow

[Boris Derzhavets]

> As I understand, important parts of Oracle VM are closed source and are
> only selling as a payed-for closed product. And I think you are first
> one that interpreted it like this, everyone else were saying that Linux
> will stay at Oracle VM foundation.

  As far as to my knowledge Oracle VM is Xen 3.4.2 Dom0 with 2.6.18 xenified kernel
pretty close RH stock xen-kernel.
  Problem with Xen Dom0 support in meantime is resolved via XenLinux 2.6.34.7 kernel
on OpenSuse 11.3  under Xen 4.0.1 and pvops kernel 2.6.32.21 under Xen 4.0.1
( wherever you would be able to make a port . Say Ubuntu 10.04.1 Server, F13,F12 )
  I hardly believe  Oracle to kill xVM 3.4.2 in favour of Linux. Because there is nothing
on Linux to be suitable for oracle, unless they will make analogue of Citrix XenServer 5.6
(XenLinux 2.6.27 kernel).
   Xen 3.4.2 port to Solaris is non-trivial task and Sun was pretty close to production quality  solution. Just view blog of John Levon  if it still exist.
Oracle VM on Solaris 11 might  be xVM 4.0.1 & Solaris xenified kernel build (XXX) 
Oracle do have highly qualified engineers to  accomplish the task in about 1 year.


--- On Wed, 9/29/10, Darko Hojnik <hojnik at virtualizing.org> wrote:

From: Darko Hojnik <hojnik at virtualizing.org>
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] XEN and Crossbow
To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" <openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org>
Date: Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 12:12 PM

Am Samstag, den 25.09.2010, 07:36 +0200 schrieb Nikola M:
> Kent Watsen wrote:
> >> 1. dom0 support has not been built for OpenIndiana because Oracle
> >> have discontinued development of it, and it won't be present in
> >> Solaris 11 Express.
> > While it's true that Oracle discontinued xVM, this was done so as to
> > port their Oracle VM solution to Solaris.  The new solution is also
> > Xen based and I believe that it will be part of Solaris 11 (reading
> > between the lines in statements that have been made)
> As I understand, important parts of Oracle VM are closed source and are
> only selling as a payed-for closed product. And I think you are first
> one that interpreted it like this, everyone else were saying that Linux
> will stay at Oracle VM foundation.
> If it is for large part closed and integrated in Solaris/express, then
> that again does not makes very big difference of chances for being
> available to open distributions.
> 
> Timetable for code releases for Solaris express or Solaris 11 is not yet
> certain.
> Seems like community of OpenIndiana have just enough time to make Dom0
> support work again in  meantime, especially in the light that importing
> new features from , possibly new releases of Solaris (if code is
> available after releases, as they were saying) , could take some time
> after each their code release. (But also in light that OpenIndiana is
> basing it's future on Ilumos spork and now fork of Os/Net)
> 
> I see many people very much interested in Xen on SunOS/Dom0 support in
> Illumos/OpenIndiana, so seems like some sort of more formal organization
> about making it happened should take place.
> 
> Since me can only help projects by testing and reporting bugs and so on,
> I can just suggest actions to at least one Xen/SunOS developer that
> could lead the project:
> Activating project inside Illumos.org first (and Openindiana.org),
> making site, mailing list etc, where will be seen what people/human
> resources are needed, machine and organizational resources needed and
> what money funds are needed to re-implement Xvm Dom0 (As already present
> in previous recent releases of OpenSolaris before OpenIndiana).
> 
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I have offered it and I do it again ;) I offer the Website, the
Mailinglists FTP Space and Subversion or Mercurical. Thats for me not an
expensive part. I will offer the Domain virtualizing.org for that.
I am a Webdeveloper and Administrator. I could not commit clean an good
Code about xVM. My coding skills are to low for that.

cheers
Darko Hojnik


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