[OpenIndiana-discuss] Second Look at OI "Stable" Proposal (was Re: Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch)

Deano deano at rattie.demon.co.uk
Sun Feb 13 19:58:17 UTC 2011


Hi Ken,

Most of us agree that the more packages and more of a cross section the
stable build has, the better. 
However the main issue is supporting it, it's not simply packaging, its
maintaining it to a high enough standard to be considered "stable", if
someone can come forward and not only offer a package but be willing to look
after it, follow the security alerts, package and patch it, then great.
For now we have some great people supporting many packages and
consolidation, but getting more into the stable list requires more people
interested in helping.

Bye,
Deano
Deano at cloudpixies.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Gunderson [mailto:kgunders at teamcool.net] 
Sent: 13 February 2011 19:14
To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Second Look at OI "Stable" Proposal (was Re:
Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch)

I was just taking a second (well, actually third) look at this and the
more important baby (IMAP) was thrown out with the bath water (MTA
debate).

On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 11:50 -0700, Ken Gunderson wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 20:36 +0000, Alasdair Lumsden wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
[snip]

> Despite all it's goodness, one, if not the, primary detractor to Open
> Solaris's uptake was a paucity of 3rd party packages. Postponing until
> IllumOS integraton would allow more time for the repository to be
> updated and fleshed out, thereby creating a better initial impression of
> "fresh and up to date" Open Solaris based system. If the minimal
> supported server now path is chosen, then I think there really needs to
> be some POP3/IMAP package on the list, because it's not all just about
> web servers.  Cyrus or Dovecot would be good choices.

The proposed minimal set of packages to be supported is very web server
centric.  Email is still a BIG component of the Internet and I believe
that at least one IMAP package should be included in the supported list.
And that package should be either Dovecot (simpler) or Cyrus (bigger
enterprise ready and more RFC conformant).  There are many people
running large Cyrus ZFS installations on Solaris based systems (although
many OpenSolaris may have migrated by now) so I think it might not bee
too difficult if we approached the appropriate Cyrus mailing list with a
request to package for OI.  Probably similarly for Dovecot, as last I
communicated with Timo (admittedly in early Dovecot development) he was
very helpful guy.  My personal preference would be for Cyrus because of
the RFC feature/conformance aspect.

Also, I think SSH needs to be added to the supported list.  I'm sure
this one was merely an oversight.

Thank you and have a nice day.

-- 
Ken Gunderson <kgunders at teamcool.net>


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