[OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch

[Gabriel de la Cruz]

Thank you very much for such a detailed response, actually yes,
Openindiana-desktop, is more clear than the LiveCD, it makes sense.

I will read the links you sent.

Thanks again for all your work.

BR
Gab



On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Alasdair Lumsden <alasdairrr at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Gabriel,
>
> On 01/17/11 10:07 AM, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote:
>>
>> Thanks!
>> A place to start is a place to start, and an stable server release is
>> the most urgent one among all the other options.
>
> Great - thanks for the feedback!
>
>> Some people is talking about the server-desktop question, I
>> particularly liked the old Solaris software groups concept (reduced
>> network, core, end user, entire)... woulnt it be posible to have a non
>> stable distro featuring the full range of up to date software, and a
>> stable conservative one (behind in innovation but ahead in stability)
>> allowing to either just keep the fully suported core of software or to
>> add as well a less supported desktop enviroment?. Wouldnt this be
>> almost same effort, example:
>
> Well, the thing is, this is already the case. All people have to do is use
> the Text Installer ISO (Or the Automated Installer ISO) - this installs a
> much smaller subset of software which doesn't include the full Gnome desktop
> software. Effectively the text installer ISO is the "server release" and the
> Live CD ISO is the "desktop release". Perhaps we need to name them such to
> avoid the confusion, as it seems a lot of people on-list are confused about
> this.
>
> Unfortunately the Text Installer still installs quite a "fat" install, due
> to some packaging that needs improvement. Alan Coopersmith pointed us at
> some bugs on bugs.opensolaris.org related to this which was pretty helpful:
>
> http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=7010355
>  - splitting tk bindings out of the core python package
>
> http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=7010324
>  - splitting X apps out of the core groff package
>
> http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6574610
>  - splitting glib out of the gnome-base-libs package
>
> The only differences between a server install and a desktop install are the
> packages installed, and they're already split up into fairly reasonable
> incorporations. I think the situation with OpenSolaris only having a
> graphical LiveCD for so long has led people to think that OpenSolaris and
> thus OpenIndiana is mainly a desktop OS.
>
> So I am starting to think that we should rename the Live CD to
> OpenIndiana-Desktop and the Text Installer to OpenIndiana-Server.
>
> Ideally the graphical installer, Caiman, would let you choose which package
> incorporations to install. But unfortunately I think it does a "dumb"
> install from a cpio archive.
>
> Perhaps refactoring of Caiman is needed, where the Live CD ships with a pkg
> repo, starts a pkg server, and does an install from that. Not sure how
> feasible this would be. Given how complete pkg is, probably not all that
> hard.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alasdair
>
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