[OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch

[Dmitry G. Kozhinov]

No! (the vote has begun :)

I feel that Live CD is still a server OS.

I suggest names like
  - Gnome distribution; (Actually "Live CD" is even better name - it 
gives an idea that you can boot from CD not touching your HDD content);
  - Command line distribution.

Dmitry.


On 17.01.2011 16:16, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote:
> Thank you very much for such a detailed response, actually yes,
> Openindiana-desktop, is more clear than the LiveCD, it makes sense.
>
> I will read the links you sent.
>
> Thanks again for all your work.
>
> BR
> Gab
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Alasdair Lumsden<alasdairrr at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Hi Gabriel,
>>
>> On 01/17/11 10:07 AM, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote:
>>> Thanks!
>>> A place to start is a place to start, and an stable server release is
>>> the most urgent one among all the other options.
>> Great - thanks for the feedback!
>>
>>> Some people is talking about the server-desktop question, I
>>> particularly liked the old Solaris software groups concept (reduced
>>> network, core, end user, entire)... woulnt it be posible to have a non
>>> stable distro featuring the full range of up to date software, and a
>>> stable conservative one (behind in innovation but ahead in stability)
>>> allowing to either just keep the fully suported core of software or to
>>> add as well a less supported desktop enviroment?. Wouldnt this be
>>> almost same effort, example:
>> Well, the thing is, this is already the case. All people have to do is use
>> the Text Installer ISO (Or the Automated Installer ISO) - this installs a
>> much smaller subset of software which doesn't include the full Gnome desktop
>> software. Effectively the text installer ISO is the "server release" and the
>> Live CD ISO is the "desktop release". Perhaps we need to name them such to
>> avoid the confusion, as it seems a lot of people on-list are confused about
>> this.
>>
>> Unfortunately the Text Installer still installs quite a "fat" install, due
>> to some packaging that needs improvement. Alan Coopersmith pointed us at
>> some bugs on bugs.opensolaris.org related to this which was pretty helpful:
>>
>> http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=7010355
>>   - splitting tk bindings out of the core python package
>>
>> http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=7010324
>>   - splitting X apps out of the core groff package
>>
>> http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6574610
>>   - splitting glib out of the gnome-base-libs package
>>
>> The only differences between a server install and a desktop install are the
>> packages installed, and they're already split up into fairly reasonable
>> incorporations. I think the situation with OpenSolaris only having a
>> graphical LiveCD for so long has led people to think that OpenSolaris and
>> thus OpenIndiana is mainly a desktop OS.
>>
>> So I am starting to think that we should rename the Live CD to
>> OpenIndiana-Desktop and the Text Installer to OpenIndiana-Server.
>>
>> Ideally the graphical installer, Caiman, would let you choose which package
>> incorporations to install. But unfortunately I think it does a "dumb"
>> install from a cpio archive.
>>
>> Perhaps refactoring of Caiman is needed, where the Live CD ships with a pkg
>> repo, starts a pkg server, and does an install from that. Not sure how
>> feasible this would be. Given how complete pkg is, probably not all that
>> hard.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alasdair
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list
>> OpenIndiana-discuss at openindiana.org
>> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>>
> _______________________________________________
> OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list
> OpenIndiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
>