[OpenIndiana-discuss] [illumos-Discuss] branding for illumos/openindiana

[Ken Gunderson]

On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 00:45 -0700, Marion Hakanson wrote:
> kgunders at teamcool.net said:
> > But all that is neither here nor there.  The point is that your idea
> > was/is lame.
> 
> Yeah, but what do you think of my idea?
> 
> 
> >  And that your mother probably dresses you funny... 
> 
> Not for several decades, she hasn't (:-).
> 
> 
> kgunders at teamcool.net said:
> > P.S.; In the event it may have been less than obvious... above was intended
> > to be taken with a sense of humor ;-P 
> 
> Phew, for a minute there I thought you might not entirely agree with me (:-).
> 
> 
> > ...Marion Hakanson wrote:
> > > I also happen to think "illumos" is an excellent name.  Use it everywhere.
> 
> OK, I may have exaggerated a bit.  But I do like the name -- I think it's
> a clever play on words, in multiple directions.  And the fact that most of
> my immediate family members are well-versed in the Harry Potter stories
> probably has nothing to do with it.

I think it comes off as a less than successful effort to be witty.  Nor
does it roll off your tongue.  OpenIndiana suffers from this as well,
but hey, at least it leaves us with short and sweet contraction; oi,
which rolls off the tongue quite agreeably, eh?

I also think that it's time to make clean break from Oracle/Solaris
dependencies/associations - particularly since Larry is doing such an
excellent job of alienating SMB's and reasonably large sized enterprises
alike. 

> kgunders at teamcool.net said:
> > I kind of like OpenIndiana, particularly when contracted to
> > "oi", as compared to Illumos in that at least it conveys that this is
> > supposed to be an "Open" project (although "Open" has been so misused by
> > marketroids trying to cash in on the Open Source phenom that in more
> > recent times its use has almost become a red flag, particularly
> > following the Orcale OpenSolaris fiasco).  
> 
> I'm enough of an old Unix geek that I dislike the "Indiana" name's
> association with a project that was an attempt to make Solaris more
> Linux-like.  

I completely agree. Indiana was a marketroid driven effort to make
things more Linux like, err.. I mean Ubuntu like, because all hip
marketroids know that Linux equals Ubuntu.

> I'm also one of those who puts /usr/gnu/bin at the end of the
> PATH at install time (yet note that I do not remove it entirely), just so
> you know which segment of the target audience I'm in.  Of course, my spouse
> is from Indiana, and that relationship is going pretty well, so you never
> can tell....
> 
> Never mind my opinion, however.  We all know that I have no future in
> marketing, nor likely in any popular or for-profit enterprise of any kind.
> 
> We now return you to your lameness-free content (:-)....

I'm not averse to dropping OpenIndiana in favor of something better.  I
AM against that being any kind of play/dependency on Illumos. I don't
have anything against the Illumos project.  But therein lies the salient
issue - Illumos and OI are two separate projects.

-- 
Regards-- Ken Gunderson