[OpenIndiana-discuss] [illumos-Discuss] branding for illumos/openindiana

[Blake]

I agree that Sun's engineering legacy is impressive.

Unfortunately, the words 'Sun' and 'Solaris' are anathema to most young
startups and newbie engineers.  Rather than forcing a history lesson on
them, I feel we should look forward when evangelizing the platform.

Blake

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Jake Young <jak3kaj at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Ken Gunderson <kgunders at teamcool.net
> >wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 21:11 -0400, Jake wrote:
> > > I totally agree. OpenIndiana describes the distro quite well, since it
> is
> > the opensource bits of the Solaris Indiana release; but the reference is
> > totally lost to anyone not familiar with what OpenSolaris was.
> > >
> > > I think a Sun reference would be fitting.
> >
> > Why?  The Sun has set some time ago.  There's nothing to see here now.
> > Time to move along, move along.  Perhaps you're thinking that a
> > reference to Sun obscure enough to avoid a lawsuit would in some way be
> > attractive to business.  I think the opposite - anyone who's been around
> > for a while has their Oracle horror story so why would we want to
> > associate.  And by Oracle, I'm referencing the corporate entity, not
> > contributing individuals who happen to be employed by same.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards-- Ken Gunderson
> >
> > One of the biggest appeals of OI/Illumos to me is that it is a
> continuation
> of the legacy of Sun Solaris' high standards of engineering excellence. My
> personal view of the open sourcing of Solaris 11 is that someone in Sun
> wanted to make sure that the OS that had so much invested in it would have
> an opportunity to continue to flourish.  Things weren't going so well for
> Sun back in 2005, it was pretty clear that if the Sun hardware wasn't going
> to make enough money, the OS development would be impacted severely.  The
> roots of Solaris go back to the beginning of
>
> Not that Sun was such a great company, but there were a lot of fantastic
> developers there.  Anyone I talked to that knew the kernel development
> teams, said something along the lines of "they're the smartest people I
> know".  Sun incubated that talent and tried to make its money from hardware
> sales.
>
> There are still a lot of fantastic people that stayed on when Oracle took
> over.  What is scaring everyone is what will Oracle do with Solaris in 5
> years, will there even be a Solaris 12?
>
> Maybe someday, OI/Illumos will not be seen as the fork...
>
> I think its appropriate to honor the company that brought us this great OS!
>
> Jake
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