[OpenIndiana-discuss] Tribblix update
ken mays
maybird1776 at yahoo.com
Mon Dec 17 18:13:07 UTC 2012
Peter
The Xorg 7.7 packages were built awhile ago. I have a recent update for newer Xorg driver builds for Radeon or Intel.
I've updated the Illumos GCC to 4.4.7 with patches to rebuild the kernel on the fly and kept userland build intact.
As for the login managers and desktops, its like picking an ice cream that everyone will like or works with everyone's needs.
I know if we build GNOME 3.6.2 on Tribblix... well, Alan already touched on that subject.
No sweat...and good work.
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On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 8:21 AM EST Peter Tribble wrote:
>On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Jim Klimov <jimklimov at cos.ru> wrote:
>> On 2012-12-17 06:59, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
>>
>> Oh, and it assumes no one needs 32-bit binaries any more,
>> [...]
>>
>> Well, I may probably get corrected (and should, if need be) - but
>> in such discussions I've always thought (and heard) that these are
>> two different things. 64-bit kernel is for optimal harnessing of
>> hardware with large (>4gb) memory and perhaps wider instructions
>> on CPU.
>>
>> 64-bit or 32-bit userspace programs is about addressing virtual
>> memory again and large files to an extent (AFAIK the latter can
>> be used with 32-bit programs too). 64-bit userspace with "small"
>> programs like many UNIX command-line tools, GUI applets, etc.
>> which don't feasibly need to juggle gigabytes of data at once -
>> now, that would also be about wasting RAM and CPU cycles on
>> pushing around more bytes of pointers and other increased
>> structures with no practical gain.
>>
>> Am I wrong to maintain this point of view?
>
>It's a trade-off. Certainly on x86, 64-bit code is significantly quicker
>(it's much more modern). On SPARC, it's probably so-so.
>
>If you have to support a 32-bit system, then you're forced to ship
>32-bit userspace binaries. You could ship both 32- and 64-bit,
>and use isaexec, but that's additional work to build, more bytes
>to ship, and a slight performance hit to go through isaexec. If you
>don't have to support 32-bit at all, then you don't have to worry
>about those compromises and can just ship 64-bit applications
>and be done with it.
>
>--
>-Peter Tribble
>http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/
>
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