[OpenIndiana-discuss] Any HP Servers recommendation for Openindiana (Capacity Server) ?

Wed Jan 4 14:27:54 UTC 2012

Thanks for your reply and time everyone.

The only reason I asked about HP is that I have good support trough HP 
reseller here in
Iceland. IBM has also a good reseller here too. DELL, not so good and 
Oracle from the
same reseller is hell here in Iceland.

I also have pretty good reseller for SuperMicro that I have bought many 
times before.
I actually have 5 Supermicro servers in production here, and they are 
damn good.

The actual question about HP, and or some other vender was regarding 
say, if a HD disk
would fail, controller and or motherboard, I have a pretty good 
connection(and support) regarding replace'ing them
after few hours. So hardware support would be great, and hardware 
compatibility. Software support is not
what I'm actually looking for.

I'm aware of the RAM regarding ZFS so I would buy RAM heavy server

A closed software solution is not my type of thing.
Firstly, they cost huge money regarding our currency.
Secondly, I have no access (like for Nexenta) into the core of the 
operating system.
I have had great success with OpenIndiana and Napp-IT and using linux in 
our environment.
Thirdly, We do have some limited budget. Time will tell how much, as our 
currency rocks
like a bad jojo. :s

I think a good solution would be :

* 1U/2U Server with large RAM, good XEON's and correct SAS controllers
* Large external storage chassis connected with SAS (6Gbit right ?)

Any recommandations on external chassis ? Supermicro ?

Thanks allot people.

Best regards,

Svavar - Reykjavik - Iceland

> Open Indiana <mailto:openindiana at out-side.nl>
> 4. janúar 2012 12:19
> Before the takeover by Oracle Sun was cheaper than Dell, not at first sight
> but if you checked everything part-by-part than Sun was at the end cheaper.
> With Dell the biggest problem is their website and the way they present
> prices. You start with a enormous offer of 512,- euro for a server and end
> with a 9000,- euro server.
>
> Always take the highest series (>  R610), they offer more than the lower
> series. If want the same amount of hardware like HD's and processors in the
> low-series server you pay approx. 30% more.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jan Kesten [mailto:jan at dafuer.de]
> Sent: woensdag 4 januari 2012 12:42
> To: openindiana-discuss at openindiana.org
> Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Any HP Servers recommendation for
> Openindiana (Capacity Server) ?
>
> Hi,
>
>> We use DELL, and Sun^H^H^HOracle kit ... I love the Sun kit for it's
>> ILOM (able to access the bios remotely, via console and browser) and
>
> indeed the ilom (and all the other (x)lom from sun) are really great and
> unique. But for completeness nowadays dell (and others too with
> different) offers the (i)DRAC (Dell Remote Access Controller) for out of
> band management, and they work like a charm if you got used to them (but
> that also counts for the (x)lom) - but you have to order them as addition to
> your server, they are not included by default. They also offer to enter the
> bios in their console redirection and basic monitoring (with email alarms).
>
>> If you do go DELL remember to look at the website (if your eyes don't
>> hurt) and get a quote, then call them up, they work on commission and
>> are aggressive with the prices.
>
> At dell you *must* call for price - ordering without a qoute is waste of
> money ;-)
>
> If I have a choice I would go with Sun - but if price matters dell is/was a
> good alternative (in fact the first storage server build like this with
> solaris was chosen by price, and dell clearly won over all other
> "professional" vendors).
>
> Cheers,
> Jan
>
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> Jan Kesten <mailto:jan at dafuer.de>
> 4. janúar 2012 11:41
> Hi,
>
>> We use DELL, and Sun^H^H^HOracle kit ... I love the Sun kit for it's
>> ILOM (able to access the bios remotely, via console and browser) and
>
> indeed the ilom (and all the other (x)lom from sun) are really great and
> unique. But for completeness nowadays dell (and others too with
> different) offers the (i)DRAC (Dell Remote Access Controller) for out of
> band management, and they work like a charm if you got used to them (but
> that also counts for the (x)lom) - but you have to order them as
> addition to your server, they are not included by default. They also
> offer to enter the bios in their console redirection and basic
> monitoring (with email alarms).
>
>> If you do go DELL remember to look at the website (if your eyes don't
>> hurt) and get a quote, then call them up, they work on commission and
>> are aggressive with the prices.
>
> At dell you *must* call for price - ordering without a qoute is waste of
> money ;-)
>
> If I have a choice I would go with Sun - but if price matters dell
> is/was a good alternative (in fact the first storage server build like
> this with solaris was chosen by price, and dell clearly won over all
> other "professional" vendors).
>
> Cheers,
> Jan
>
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> Jonathan Adams <mailto:t12nslookup at gmail.com>
> 4. janúar 2012 11:21
> We use DELL, and Sun^H^H^HOracle kit ... I love the Sun kit for it's
> ILOM (able to access the bios remotely, via console and browser) and
> it's impressive use of space ... most HP kit is 4U for the same
> horsepower/storage capacity of Sun 2U's ...
>
> Fujitsu make good computers too that run well with Solaris 10, so
> should work with Illumos, and they are definitely comparable to the
> Sun kit (they used to be partners) ... our most recent server is a
> Fujitsu and was about 1/4 of the Sun price for almost the same kit (no
> ILOM)
>
> If you do go DELL remember to look at the website (if your eyes don't
> hurt) and get a quote, then call them up, they work on commission and
> are aggressive with the prices.
>
> Jon
>
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> Jan Kesten <mailto:jan at dafuer.de>
> 4. janúar 2012 10:57
> Hello,
>
> from my personal experience I would recommend you Dell hardware. I have
> some old aged PE2900 running with 10 discs, and some newer R515 which
> have an option to fit 12 x 3.5'' drives as hot-plug and 2 x 2,5'' drives
> as internal discs. I use the internal discs for the operating system and
> the 12 drives as storage with zfs (but with an internal raid controller
> which come from LSI at dell and work out of the box now - there were
> some issues earylier).
>
> With those together with 12 x 3TB drives you can have up to 36 TB raw
> capacity in 2RU with no os on the data drives - which can come quite
> handy if you need to exchange them to another machine. Only point is to
> have a look at the controllers, the cheaper ones do not allow to have
> many volumes (if I remember right, the H700 do). Only flaw was that
> drives from dell are really expensive - and only come with a one year
> warranty - so I took the cheapest ones (your customer contact can affix
> the price - so phone her/him) and replaced them with "normal" drives
> loosing my warranty for the drives from dell (haha).
>
> Just as a hint :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Jan
>
>
>
>
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> Svavar Örn Eysteinsson <mailto:svavar at fiton.is>
> 3. janúar 2012 14:05
> Hello.
>
> I'm planing to replace my old Apple XRAID, and XSAN Filesystem(1.4.2) 
> Fiber environment.
> This setup only hosted a AFP,CIFS for a large advertising agency.
> Now that Fiber is damn expensive and for one thing, we do not need the 
> fiber connection
> as every client connects with IP.
> So iSCSI, AFP, CIFS should be efficient for us.
> We have been running this setup since late/early 2006/2007 without 
> problems.
> No that the hardware/software is warned out and we had pretty damn 
> catastropic filesystem failure lately.
>
> I've been running OpenIndiana on a custom made server with 
> ZFS,CIFS,AFP and all that
> for couple of months right now. Really good. This server just acts as 
> a temporary
> solution. Currently has 4x 2TB Enterprise SATA disks in RAIDz1 and 
> expanding
> in few weeks with Supermicro AOC-USAS-L8i and 4-8 more disks.
> Doing daily snapshots and, yea really love it.
>
> Are there any recommendations regarding HP Servers running OpenIndiana 
> to act as a ZFS
> Capacity server ?
>
> The server should only do :
> * AFP
> * CIFS
> * NFS
> * iSCSI
> * and of course ZFS underneath
>
> So what I'm looking at is a large capacity server.
> We need 12-20TB at the start.
>
> Any other vendors good ?  any servers that comes out of the box and runs
> Openindiana 151 with no problems (drivers / hardware ) e.t.c. acting 
> as a capacity server.
> And support would be a good option to.
>
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks allot.
> Best regards,
>
> Svavar - Reykjavik - Iceland
>
>